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beach tribe 01-12-2010 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6437684)
I haven't even read this thread, but let me guess:

The same ol' Pioli ballwashers are in here bitching about the Four Horsemen? Carry on, men. Carry on.

Same old cry baby "we should have done this shit" over, and over.

Yes you are correct.

DeezNutz 01-12-2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 6437689)
A statement that was only made by you.
I never called him a clinger.
I actually think he has much more to add than the horsemen do, but that doesn't mean he doesn't throw in a "Yeah" on a pretty consistent basis.

I make smartass one-liners in pretty much every thread I've ever been in during my time on this site. Same thing I do if I'm sitting around shooting the shit with my friends in real life.

But I'd like to think that I make enough substantive posts that I stand on my own two feet around here, or otherwise. As always, folks are welcome to disagree. That's life.

OnTheWarpath15 01-12-2010 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6437662)
Dorsey sucks
<hr style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);" size="1"> <!-- / icon and title --> <!-- message --> Plain and simple.

Another bust of a DT:cuss:

JWhit is right about everything he said about Dorsey. I thought he was supposed to be the centerpiece around the DLine? "Supposively" supposed to be that difference maker?

Yeah:rolleyes:

Not even close.



Who said that?

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-12-2010 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 6437674)
Simmah.

I've expressed concern about Cassel. I'm unconvinced that he has what it's going to take, so don't bother arguing with me about that. As for the DE you mention, I have taken no stand on him whatsoever since you can't judge a DE in his first year ... not if you have the brains of a gnat, anyhow.

Now ... where were we? Ah, yes ... what have they done? Not much that the casual fan would notice. Haley promotes some improvement in core stats which is typical of a head coach trying to keep his job. But, I think the main thing they've done is establish a very disciplined approach to the franchise in general that will serve them well going forward.

Again, you appear to think that there should have been greater strides made. Why else would you complain? But honestly, this is unreasonable and seems to reflect an unrealistic view of the team. We were and are horrible. We had and have very little talent. There was a very serious leadership void. It isn't going to change overnight ... and never was ... that was never a serious goal. To try and convince people that Pioli and Haley have failed in their first year (as rookies in their respective positions) appears, therefore, kind of foolish, unfortunately.

FAX

So, the fact that serious concerns are already being raised about the QBOTF for this franchise from the biggest of homers is not enough to even suggest that the FO may have failed in its first year?

Furthermore, you seem to be conflating strides with "wins".

Mike Brown doesn't help this team make strides by stubbornly starting him when he's costing the team games.

Mike Vrabel doesn't help this team make strides when he continues to start and get decimated every week.

Mike Goff and Rudy Niswanger don't help this team "make strides" when they are veterans with no upside.

At what point does "leadership" become less important than losing games because of poor tackles, or putting points on the other team's board because you can't execute a shotgun snap to a quarterback?

DeezNutz 01-12-2010 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 6437693)
Same old cry baby "we should have done this shit" over, and over.

Yes you are correct.

Directly mocking mic's schtick lately when he's entered some threads.

"Let me guess..."

And then proceeds to paint with a broad brush. Whatever.

Micjones 01-12-2010 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6437684)
I haven't even read this thread, but let me guess:

The same ol' Pioli ballwashers are in here bitching about the Four Horsemen? Carry on, men. Carry on.

I'm a Pioli ballwasher?

Good thing my commentary suggests anything but.
What were you saying about being a hypocrite earlier?

beach tribe 01-12-2010 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 6437674)
Simmah.

I've expressed concern about Cassel. I'm unconvinced that he has what it's going to take, so don't bother arguing with me about that. As for the DE you mention, I have taken no stand on him whatsoever since you can't judge a DE in his first year ... not if you have the brains of a gnat, anyhow.

Now ... where were we? Ah, yes ... what have they done? Not much that the casual fan would notice. Haley promotes some improvement in core stats which is typical of a head coach trying to keep his job. But, I think the main thing they've done is establish a very disciplined approach to the franchise in general that will serve them well going forward.

Again, you appear to think that there should have been greater strides made. Why else would you complain? But honestly, this is unreasonable and seems to reflect an unrealistic view of the team. We were and are horrible. We had and have very little talent. There was a very serious leadership void. It isn't going to change overnight ... and never was ... that was never a serious goal. To try and convince people that Pioli and Haley have failed in their first year (as rookies in their respective positions) appears, therefore, kind of foolish, unfortunately.

FAX

Thank you Fax.

Foolish Indeed.

RedThat 01-12-2010 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6437708)
ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

That may have been one time, but at least Im proud to say I don't go out and whine and complain all the time about evey little thing nor possess the level of bitching you guys do.

Mr. Laz 01-12-2010 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6437651)
Bitching is just a part of some people's nature. Accept their nature people, thats all you can do. Bitching about it doesn't make things better? It only fuels their fire even more. No matter what happens, or what moves are made the 4 horsemen would bitch....lol it's downright hilarious...Better to laugh about it than be angry about it.

Hey ... bitching is in my nature and i'm still not being a freaking reerun about Haley and Pioli. :harumph:





these guys are just dicks and they enjoy being dicks for various reasons.

DeezNutz 01-12-2010 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6437711)
I'm a Pioli ballwasher?

Good thing my commentary suggests anything but.
What were you saying about being a hypocrite earlier?

What? You don't like it when someone constructs a false binary and lumps you into it?

OnTheWarpath15 01-12-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6437720)
What? You don't like it when someone constructs a false binary and lumps you into it?

.

DeezNutz 01-12-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6437720)
What? You don't like it when someone constructs a false binary and lumps you into it?

Oh, wait, is this a...point?

Or did I just shine someone's shoes? They sure as hell weren't mic's.

beach tribe 01-12-2010 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6437710)
Directly mocking mic's schtick lately when he's entered some threads.

"Let me guess..."

And then proceeds to paint with a broad brush. Whatever.

That's hilarious. Why don't you find ONE other thread I have followed Mic in before today in the last 3 months.

Go ahead. That will be funny.

I'll bet i could probably find a thread with you juggling horsemen balls everday for the last 3 months.

Micjones 01-12-2010 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6437710)
Directly mocking mic's schtick lately when he's entered some threads.

"Let me guess..."

And then proceeds to paint with a broad brush. Whatever.

God forbid the idea that I read several pages to get an overall idea of what's been said.

beach tribe 01-12-2010 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6437719)
Hey ... bitching is in my nature and i'm still not being a freaking reerun about Haley and Pioli. :harumph:





these guys are just dicks and they enjoy being dicks for various reasons.

QFT.


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