Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16248763)

When I say it will be OK, I mean that I fully expect Veach and Reid to put a contender on the field. I fully appreciate that THAT is the standard now.

The offense is too easy to defend? I would argue that. I would argue that it BECAME too easy to defend LAST season. Hill averaged what, like 11 ypc? That negates him, really. If I can do that as a defense playing KC, I'm real pleased with myself.

Other than Hill's otherwordly ability to track a deep ball, Hardman can do many of the things Hill could do. All of the jet sweep stuff, WR screen stuff-Hardman can threaten a defense in the same way. We've added MVS, who is a big, fast deep threat that you have to account for. We've added Juju, a physical YAC machine who must be accounted for. And we still have Kelce. If we actually run the ball enough to be a threat there, this offense as it stands can threaten every blade of grass-and there's NO WAY Veach and Reid are done yet. I'm excited, but I'm unconcerned. It's entirely possible that this offense may be more EFFICIENT if less EXPLOSIVE. Although last season, it was often NEITHER for long stretches.

And as I said, I fully expect at least one if not two WR's in the draft. Only MVS is on the roster for '23. That tells me that Veach is targeting guys in this draft.

We have EIGHT picks in the first four rounds. EIGHT shots in the chamber to restock the talent on this team. I think this is going to be a LOT of fun.

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 16248552)

Way too many Veach and Reid apologists here. No doubt this team is in the most competitive era it has been in under this regime, but they are not without their warts. The Britt Reid fiasco cost them a second consecutive Super Bowl in my opinion, and that second half of the Bengals game was pure meltdown. The Frank Clark deal along with the Edwards-Helaire selection are not looking good years later and the voids on the defense currently with no veteran presence at certain levels of the defence are very concerning. The draft won’t solve all issues for this team and I am shocked Veach has not done more to at least insulate some positions with veteran additions. I hope there are no desperation moves ahead burning draft capital to get a big ticket name that robs the team of future cap management and the ability to replenish. One would feel better about such a move if the overall depth of the team was better, but there are so many needs right now.

Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 16248787)

I am surprised that Veach has not signed more vets at positions of need. We’re going into the draft with immediate needs at DE, CB and WR. Because of that we don’t as much flexibility to take BPA like we have in the past. The roster as it stands today is the worst it’s been in years. The good news is we have quite a few picks. This draft is very important for the future of this franchise.

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 16248820)

There are one year FA mercenaries available...I just think Veach is waiting to see how the draft plays out.

Ingram, Clowney, Flowers...even Suh. Landry at WR...there are short-term options if KC wants to go that route.

Chiefs are in that space where they have to semi-rebuild. A lot of bills are coming due next year...LT, Hardman, Ju-Ju....Clark will be gone.

They can attempt to fill-in/groom a lot of the high money positions this year...and if they pan out, can be FA players in 2023.

Financially, losing Hill may have happened at the perfect time...especially in a deep draft year.

If they do move up for a WR, I would rather they include next year's 1st rounder. Possibly to a team with question marks at QB...Texans, Giants, Saints, Eagles. They all have multiple 1st rounders this year. This is an extremity weak year at that position...they might want the ammo to move up and get their guy in 2023.

Originally Posted by Cosmos (Post 16248843)

Next years draft is commonly viewed as vastly superior in quality in comparison.

Next years first carries a premium…spend it wisely.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16248614)

I actually don't have a problem with our free agency obviously other than a big problem with the Tyreek trade. I like the Reid signing and really liked signing Juju as a #2.

I'm hoping we trade for a DE or something because if not that means Frank Clark is going to be a starter again which is just flat out terrible. But I think we make a trade for a DE or CB because otherwise restructuring Thuney makes no sense and as good of a drafter as Veach is, finding a starting DE, CB, and WR in the same draft is an impossible task.

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 16248862)

Trading.
Hill.
Is.
Not.
Free.
Agency.
Stop.
Saying.
That.
The.
Difference.
Matters.

Originally Posted by Cosmos (Post 16248843)

Next years draft is commonly viewed as vastly superior in quality in comparison.

Next years first carries a premium…spend it wisely.

Originally Posted by Cosmos (Post 16248843)

Next years draft is commonly viewed as vastly superior in quality in comparison.

Next years first carries a premium…spend it wisely.

Originally Posted by Cosmos (Post 16248843)

Next years draft is commonly viewed as vastly superior in quality in comparison.

Next years first carries a premium…spend it wisely.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16248776)

I guess what I'm saying is that I think some of you are looking at this all wrong.

The 'wait for Mahomes and Hill to do something amazing' offense took us all the way ONCE in four tries.

I think a lot of you are really worried because that's no longer the plan. I guess I'm saying-and I think Veach and Reid are saying-ok, well that's just not sustainable, and you can't depend on that to win Super Bowls. Let's try something else here.

You can keep trying to prop it up; but the bill eventually comes due. We could have tried to maybe one more year, at most two, but then you'd have to tear it all down anyway. And the rest of the division and the AFC in general were all building their teams to stop it. Like SPECIFICALLY, the road to the SB goes through Arrowhead, so Mahomes to Hill was living rent free in every GM's head. Gotta match that firepower, gotta build a defensive scheme to stop it.

So **** it. Let's do something else now that everyone else is on that track. Stop THIS instead.

It's going to be okay.

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16243326)

Pfft debating which WR to take is pointless, Mahomes will make him look like a god book it. (Side eye Hardman)