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Chiefspants 06-24-2013 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9773434)
5/80 is what he signed - with a 16MM club option tacked on the end. (5MM buyout so I guess the deal is really 6/96 or 5/85)

According to Baseball Reference, it was 5/88.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...html#contracts

Prison Bitch 06-24-2013 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9773391)
Yeah, it's not a two-year window. Gordon through '16. Hosmer through '18. Etc.

Gordon's 2016 option is a player option so that's not correct. Hosmer? Jeez, you're argument can't be based on Eric Hosmer making us a winner.


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There was a reason why Rany went on suicide watch when the trade went down last winter, and it's not because DM suddenly became savvy.
Rany is ok but here's what he predicted about Hosmer before last year:

"He hit .313 and slugged .493 after the All-Star Break; both numbers seem like reasonable approximations for what he can do next season. Any better than that, and he’s a candidate to make the All-Star team in front of his hometown fans."
http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/2011/...art-three.html

Nightfyre 06-24-2013 08:11 PM

5 years/$80M (2013-17), plus 2018 option. Re-signed by Detroit as a free agent 12/14/12. $4M signing bonus. 13:$8M, 14:$15M, 15:$16M, 16:$16M, 17:$16M, 18:$16M club option, $5M buyout.


Straight off Baseball Prospectus.

Nightfyre 06-24-2013 08:12 PM

so 5/80 or 6/96.

Chiefspants 06-24-2013 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9773436)
Reports were that Anibal got that much from Detroit because Detroit felt pressure to make a move after the Royals traded for James Shields.

While that may be true, I remain unconvinced that Mr. Wal-Mart would have approved of the deal. Reports surfaced Cubs offered Anibal a 5/78 deal before the Tigers signed him.

Anibal was getting a huge payday with or without the deal for James.

FYI- I still disliked the trade when it happened, but this doomsday style meltdown is rather ridiculous.

Nightfyre 06-24-2013 08:13 PM

I like James Shields - but we gave up to much to acquire him. He was a great acquisition - just not at the cost.

Prison Bitch 06-24-2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9773449)
I like James Shields - but we gave up to much to acquire him. He was a great acquisition - just not at the cost.

So what would you have given up? (I'm ready for an insane Baltimore Orioles fan kinda proposal here). What does it cost to get a starter who goes 200 IP with 200K his prior two seasons?


A bucket of shag balls and a Christmas card?

Nightfyre 06-24-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9773452)
So what would you have given up? (I'm ready for an insane Baltimore Orioles fan kinda proposal here). What does it cost to get a starter who goes 200 IP with 200K his prior two seasons?


A bucket of shag balls and a Christmas card?

The key point here is that we only have two years of control of Shields. We gave up six years of every prospect we sent in that deal. I would have turned the deal down - and that's not unreasonable, if not simply because Frenchy is SOOOO terrible that Myers replacing Frenchy is undoubtedly worth more wins than Shields over whomever we could have acquired with 12 or 18 million in free agency dollars.

Chiefspants 06-24-2013 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9773449)
I like James Shields - but we gave up to much to acquire him. He was a great acquisition - just not at the cost.

I'm attempting to find a post made by a member on here. The member attended a luncheon featuring Dayton Moore. I'm almost positive that whoever it was that attended claimed that Moore mentioned that Moose (I believe he also mentioned Hosmer or Perez) could have been traded instead of Myers.

Hootie 06-24-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9773316)
If we kept Myers I'm fully convinced at this point he'd be up hitting .225 with 3 HRs in about 70 games, and Chen and Hochevar would be starting every 5 days with 5.50 ERAs.

I totally 100% agree.

But since we traded him you know he's going to turn into a 40 HR a year hitter.

Nightfyre 06-24-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 9773457)
I'm attempting to find a post made by a member on here. He attended a luncheon featuring Dayton Moore. I'm almost positive that whoever attended the luncheon claimed that Moose (I believe he also mentioned Hosmer or Perez) could have been traded instead of Myers.

Why send any of them though. This team was not ready for a win now push.

Sure-Oz 06-24-2013 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9773462)
Why send any of them though. This team was not ready for a win now push.

You're a GM that is desperate for an extension

Hootie 06-24-2013 08:22 PM

it is what it is

but revisionist history me says I wish we would have given them Moose AND Hosmer AND Odrizzi (or however you spell it) and kept Myers ROFL

I realize they are young but Moose has just looked so bad.

Nightfyre 06-24-2013 08:24 PM

Hos still has tremendous upside. He is simplifying his swing again and making great contact. Moose is coming around a bit as well. Maybe GB can push the right buttons for him and he will turn out. The upside is still there. For both.

LoneWolf 06-24-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by unnecessary drama (Post 9773465)
it is what it is

but revisionist history me says I wish we would have given them Moose AND Hosmer AND Odrizzi (or however you spell it) and kept Myers ROFL

I realize they are young but Moose has just looked so bad.

Moose has shown signs of coming out of it. I admit its been a very small sample size, but I believe he has 4 multi-hit games out of his last 5 played.


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