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ChiefsCountry 06-19-2014 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 10703624)
Can anyone explain to me how WAR is a legitimate statistic?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/ab...xplained.shtml

CoMoChief 06-19-2014 08:18 PM

Watch them get swept at the K this weekend by SEA

KcMizzou 06-19-2014 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10703628)

I guess I understand the thought behind it, but I still think it's a bullshit stat. Way to many variables that can't be accounted for.

KcMizzou 06-19-2014 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 10703641)
Watch them get swept at the K this weekend by SEA

Is that a prediction?

(Please say it is.)

Three7s 06-19-2014 08:29 PM

If Como is saying this team sucks, then they'll probably win the WS.

WilliamTheIrish 06-19-2014 11:43 PM

Mark that CoMo prediction. Probably ought to revive the thread.

teedubya 06-20-2014 02:40 AM

I've taken data from the latest social buzz around the Royals and did some data visualization. What about these ideas as shirts? Would anyone here buy shirts like these with data driven graphics?

http://i.imgur.com/g4IxkC1.png

What about 1985?

http://i.imgur.com/s1qiKyj.png

stonedstooge 06-20-2014 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 10703641)
Watch them get swept at the K this weekend by SEA

YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW!!!!

Prison Bitch 06-20-2014 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 10703642)
I guess I understand the thought behind it, but I still think it's a bullshit stat. Way to many variables that can't be accounted for.

There's nothing odd about it since they know long term what replacement level players produce when they're in the Bigs. There are not any variables either since the game of baseball has had the same basic rules and stats for over a hundred years. Every data set has a bell curve by rule, and players on each tail end are vastly different from the bulk sitting in the middle


In Erica's case, we know by simply sorting te hitting data that this sissy is one of the very worst hitters of all 1B. So it only makes sense that you could plug in a AAAA player to give you about what the pussy is providing

Prison Bitch 06-20-2014 08:27 AM

They'll stick with him at 1B for a while since he's so cheap. But internally I guarantee they're irritated by his act. If he thinks he's getting a big future contract by hitting .250 with 10 home runs and wearing cool faux-hawks, he's got another thing coming

Valiant 06-20-2014 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10703999)
They'll stick with him at 1B for a while since he's so cheap. But internally I guarantee they're irritated by his act. If he thinks he's getting a big future contract by hitting .250 with 10 home runs and wearing cool faux-hawks, he's got another thing coming

Yeah, I wonder if we can swap hosmer and moose for Arizona's starters and maybe cash or minor leaguers.

Don Corlemahomes 06-20-2014 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10703563)
I cannot stand Erica Hosmer and his arrogant face. I wondered why nobody had beaned that douche but why would they? At a negative WAR, who wants him out of the my lineup?


He and Moose are disgusting creatures and we would win this division without the dragging us down. Even replacement level guys would be superior!!!

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10703996)

In Erica's case, we know by simply sorting te hitting data that this sissy is one of the very worst hitters of all 1B. So it only makes sense that you could plug in a AAAA player to give you about what the pussy is providing

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10703999)
They'll stick with him at 1B for a while since he's so cheap. But internally I guarantee they're irritated by his act. If he thinks he's getting a big future contract by hitting .250 with 10 home runs and wearing cool faux-hawks, he's got another thing coming

Dude, we get it. But please spare us of this pathologic hate you have for certain players. The Royals are in first, and we are enjoying it like most fans of a perennially bad team would.

Just stop, please.

alnorth 06-20-2014 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 10703624)
Can anyone explain to me how WAR is a legitimate statistic?

I'm honestly curious.

WAR has the potential to be the single most relevant stat in the game, if it is done correctly and if we have confidence that most things have been accounted for.

The most valuable aspect of WAR is it enables you to compare players who play wildly different roles. It also reinforces many things that we "know" but often forget or perhaps underestimate, like a great relief pitcher isn't all that great if you compare him to a great anything else, or a good hitter who plays DH can be a worse player overall than an average hitter who plays a decent SS or CF. (I'm a big fan of the position adjustments)

The biggest outstanding issue with WAR is always whatever is the biggest issue in sabermetrics in general since WAR tries to combine everything. The biggest issue in sabermetrics is measuring defense, so therefore the defensive part of WAR is probably the thing that needs the most work. We pretty much have offense, pitching, adjusting for your park, etc more or less figured out.

Why Not? 06-20-2014 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 10704027)
Yeah, I wonder if we can swap hosmer and moose for Arizona's starters and maybe cash or minor leaguers.

Arizona's starter at 1b? Maybe they would trade him for two Royals but they would be Ventura and Gordon at least. And even that is highly doubtful.

Prison Bitch 06-20-2014 09:18 AM

Yost claims "I've never been wrong about young talent" and says the keystone cops are fine. Does anyone in our media ever call him out by pointing the facts? Instead of looking at Smardjia we ought to be looking at 1B (and frankly DH since fatty isn't comin back). Our rotation looks ok even next year but until we can hit from our hitting positions we won't be a threat


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