Ya'll can focus on the good and ignore the bad. That's fine. But I like to look at the bigger picture here. Do you think being a record breaking turnover machine will help her chances to progress in the playoffs? I've seen it cost her in two finals already but folks were happy to ignore it back then too so I guess I can't be surprised that the status quo remains the same :evil: .

Peyton was bad yes but that wasn't his game in college. So you could say that that turnover statistic wasn't expected. But Clark was a turnover machine in college too so it may just be who she is.

If CC was black she'd be inducted to the WNBA hall already, it's hilarious.

Can we just ban the racist dip shit troll again and get back to intelligent discussion?

A Chiefsplanet thread with 3,200+ posts about WOMEN’S BASKETBALL.

That’s Caitlin Clark, not Angel Reese, bud.

Imagine if white people had argued this much, and invented as many ridiculous ways Phil was "better" than Tiger Woods in 1997-1998.

I honestly think the way people around basketball, men's and Women's, are so invested in Angel Reese being "better" than Caitlin Clark, should be a bigger story, and as a subject matter itself, prime for a deep dive into the sociology and pathology of reasons why these people are pushing so hard for Reese.

Caitlin Clark ranks sixth in WNBA efficiency.

Angel Reese is 13th.

It’s a stupid thing to bring up because if she’s not there they’re not even going to the playoffs.

She's averaging 5.5 turnovers per game not the 8 that you claimed, you colossal dipshit. 5.5 turnovers per game for a point guard that handles the ball, drives to the basket, and leads the league in assists is not bad at all. Take Sid the Sloth Reece's cock out of your ass and actually watch the games objectively.

181 turnovers already is a wnba record by a long way. The facts are the facts.

And for those who keep bringing up Reese. Comparing her to Clark is like comparing Giannis to Curry. They are two different players. One is a vastly better defender and rebounder. The other is a vastly better shooter and facilitator. So I'm not saying Reese is better or Clark is better. They impact the game in different ways but folks love to point out Reese's shooting but get mad when Clark's turnover weakness gets talked about :thumb: .

And lastly I'm not here to insult or argue with folks. I'm just stating facts and an opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's still a huge weakness in her game that she needs to improve on.

It's football season quit bumping this gay ass thread

Well, Nebraska football is gay and nobody cares but we talk about that.

Nebraska/Colorado will have much higher ratings than the dyke ball championship

She’s learning what her lesser skilled teammates can handle, pretty sure she will have fewer turnovers as her career progresses. Your hate for her kinda of reminds me of my hate for former Duke guard Bobby Hurley. Anyway, to be fair, your point of Clark needling to improve on her turnovers is legitimate.

It's nit picking. Clark is already great.

It's like knocking Aaron Judge for excessive strikeouts.

Who let him back and why

I don't follow women's basketball so I don't have context on how different the stats are, but in NBA terms, I'd be way more worried about a PF that shoots under 40% from 2 than a PG that averages 5.5 turnovers. 5.5 turnovers isn't good, but a big who can't shoot 40% is borderline unplayable.

Angel has a vision problem. Her eyes are so wide set she has depth perception issues. Plagued her since she was a kid. Kinda sad when you think about the wasted potential because she has Sid from Ice Age eyes.

Same skill set also

Meh, if she starts making a higher % of shots she's probably a 16 pt / 10 Reb player. Who plays plus defense. Because she rebounds a lot of her misses it inflates her Reb numbers but it minimizes some of the damage of missing so many easy shots.

Not taking away from her that she's very good by WNBA standards. But it's Clint capela good, where capelas style of play is more valuable to the WNBA that is more physical than it is athletic than it is in the NBA.

Ita not nearly the case anymore that she has lesser teammates. She is the engine but the pieces and parts are more than doing their part now. The team as a whole is much better in the second half of the season.

Haha, I went back and read. You're 100% correct. 😂

I keep hoping more Sophie Cunningham pics appear everytime this thread gets bumped

I've already explained that the Sky are shorthanded. They traded their best shooter (Mabrey) away and have lost their best playmaker (Carter) to injury lately. Take away Mitchell and Smith from Clark and Indiana would be losing too.

A lot of folks bring up Capela but Reese does hit threes and jumpers here snd there. So it's not like she can't shoot at all. Imo she's closer to Giannis than Capela. Dominant despite not being a great shooter.

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And he thumbs’Ed it down, muwahhahhhhhahhahahahah



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Dude she is a 28% shooter outside 10 feet and most of those shots are completely uncontested. Giannis is a 75% shooter within 5 feet to angel's 40%. What are we doing here.

GIannis has built his game over several years. Reese is still a rookie fgs. I'm just saying both are good defenders, rebounder and get buckets despite not having reliable jumpers :evil:

Over his career Giannis has shot 56.7 from the field and 59.1% inside the arc.

Wide Eyes McGee shoots 38.5% from the field and 39.2% inside the arc. Also she's 2/12 from 3 lol.

She gets buckets because any idiot can throw it up 12+ times from the blocks and luck into making 5 of them.

Because Giannis can dunk so he's an excellent finisher. Angels entire offensive bag is 5 ft in and she's not even a 40% shooter. She absolutely can develop with time. But right now she just has zero offensive bag. Her entire technique is bully ball. Can't post, can't shoot, can't layup. Just throw a bunch of shit up, get second chance opps or draw a foul.

Split MVP between Clark and Reese.

Clark has elevated the play of her teammates to winning basketball. That was your criteria a couple of months back. She is doing it. I think it is obvious that the Fever made the correct choice in picking Clark at #1.

Now what isn't clear is why the next 5 teams passed on Reese. She is clearly the second most talented player in the draft class at this point in time. She has skills. Fever need to get her in a trade this off-season.

So when a black person does it, it's "personal". Not racist. Got it.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/steph...tlin-clark.amp

So now barkley, lebron, Stephen a Smith and Nick wright have called the WNBA media out for all the anti Clark weirdness. And big surprise, the WNBA activists are finally tail between legs. Finally. I've said it before, this is the last stand for activists trying to inject social issues. They've been kicked out of every other sport. Even women's soccer. These guys were tentative to give that full endorsement earlier in the year because they got pounced. It got so out of hand that they just stopped giving a shit about being polite.

Doesn't seem like a coincidence that all of a sudden the praise is raining down on Clark. From the NBA. From the WNBA giving her awards she was snubbed out of the first half of the season. To kicking Sheryl swoopes out of the broadcast booth for being a hater. I would bet the WNBA and even nba leadership saw the stupidity of how they're duffing a once in a lifetime opportunity to grow the league with this pettiness.

And man I just hope this is the last stand for this activist bullshit. If they get booted from the WNBA there's nowhere else for them to go.

Cameron Brink is clearly was the right pick at 2, Cardoso is 6'7 and still defensable at 3 and given they got Reese at 7 hard to argue with.

The picks from 4-6 sure.

Jackson is really good. In my opinion the second best rookie with Reese in third (though I think Reese has the best upside of any of these players outside of Clark). I dunno, I think cardoso is a finished product and it's solid but unspectacular. But still brink was a good choice for pick 2.

Triple double for Caitlin Clark tonight.

Sky are 11-22

Reese is such a ****ing loser

They're much worse with her on the roster.

Just putrid.

How can she even be that high when she shoots below 40% from two as a post player? Are players in the WNBA really that inefficient?

Great triple double by Clark tonight but let's be real ya'll, Indiana have been beating up on a lot of teams who are gonna get high draft picks. Once again though Boston, Smith and Mitchell put up good numbers too which further underlines the notion that it's not a one player team.

And lastly YOU KNOW what I'm gonna mention don't you? Oh yes those TURNOVERS!! :evil: ..just another casual SEVEN to make that 32 In six games and 188 for the season. She's already smashing all turnover records and with thirteen regular season games to go the numbers are threatening to be really bonkers when it's all said and done.

Anyway they are playing with confidence and have a winning record so hopefully no excuses will be made come playoff time. If Clark is who folks think she is, plus she has a lot of support around her, then winning in the playoffs shouldn't be a problem imo.

Fever go from a no hope bottom of the barrell team to one of the best in the league with Clark.

We should all feel priveleged to watch this.

give it up bro, watch Clark push the ball upcourt 90 percent of the time and deliver..she has the ball in her hand all game...

Wait so when she had nobody around her in Iowa losing to an SC super team she can’t win championships. And now that she has help around her she’s being carried by her teammates?


And during their streak they’ve beaten Connecticut, Seattle and phoenix who last time I checked clinched a playoff berth

Fastest player in league history to hit 100 3s… as a rook.

She’s ****ing phenomenal.

Don't waste your time. He just hates white women. That's the crux of his message.

I didn't say she's been carried, I said she has support. Secondly the Sparks, Wings, Dream, Sky and Mystics are all the worst ranked teams in the league whilst the Sun's are barely 500. The majority of these wins have been against bad teams.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ANGEL REESE STEP BACK JUMPER ���� <a href="https://t.co/419IqUAZEK">pic.twitter.com/419IqUAZEK</a></p>&mdash; BricksCenter (@BricksCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/BricksCenter/status/1831165627823976457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wait.

Weren't the Fever bad enough to get the 1st overall pick without Clark last season?

I'm confused.

Yup, they were. It’s not hard to read between the lines of why her critics prop up Kelsey Mitchell. But truth is that Mitchell and Boston are actually very good and a huge part of the success. For the same reason wemby can’t carry a team, clark can’t be expected to do the same. For the same reason Steph while special was even more special because of guys like Klay and draymond (cringe…)

How can someone that spends all their time the last 10 years doing something, no matter what it is, be that bad at what they are doing. She appears to have no clue how to even attempt to shoot the ball.

For something that you are supposed to be one of the better players at, that you dedicate your life to and that you spend countless hours/days/months/years working to perfect - you would hope that it at least looks like you know what you are doing and have played the sport before.


I say that as a mid handicap golfer that has been playing golf since I was 15 that sometimes will play the sport like I've never hit a golf ball before.

I'd be curious what her turnover rate is as a percentage of how many possessions she has.

Seems this quote is a better fit for Reese.

I don’t want to be an excuse police because I’m not a fan. But I think she had to switch her shooting hand in high school. And I think she has a rod in her leg which maybe she’s nervous to go up strong. A lot of this sounds very similar to Tristan Thompson. The big difference is, people understood Tristan to be a role player. Nobody tried to claim he was ever a player he was not. She is like a lot of nba players who focus on hustle, rebounding and defense but just have no offense bag. They are often useful players, they just aren’t Steph curry

Guys who watch wnba have low t

Indiana played a good team tonight and unfortunately for the Clark fans they got whooped by ten points. Clark put up a good statline again though. 25-8-8. But I kept telling ya'll those turnovers can be costly and once again she had her favourite number of turnovers..SEVEN. Which she has done around six times in the last month or so. It's now 195 turnovers this season and 39 in the last seven games. The wnba turnover record was set in 1999 at 135. Clark is going to obliterate a record that stood for 25 years when the regular season is done.

LMAO... You know everyone laughs at you...

Yeah it's not even worth it. It's the same parroted talking points as every hater. Like clockwork it's all about turnovers. It's all about not winning championships despite not having a college super team and now about how she is only winning because she is on a super team that were so bad last year they got the #1 pick. They're lasered into it to save face. That she's a great player and the roty race is over and was never a race to begin with.

"Whooped by 10 points". ROFL ****er has to be a Democrat

Keep your political bullshit in DC.

Wasn't he banned from this thread?
I liked that

Angel Reese season over

No more rebounds and missed 2 ft shots from Lady Rodman this year.

what happened?

Bet Reese still gets every jaded black lesbians vote for ROTY though

Banged her wrist on the mirror while masterbating to her double double stats on onlyfans. The whole eyes wide apart and poor depth perception got her again.

What about the white lesbian vote? STFU

She just became the 1st rookie in WNBA history to win Player of the Month, wow, congrats to Caitland Clark!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Caitlin Clark is the first rookie in WNBA history to be named Player of the Month! <a href="https://t.co/3uq2NCcyQH">https://t.co/3uq2NCcyQH</a></p>&mdash; Ballislife.com (@Ballislife) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ballislife/status/1831448989809676493?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Learned an interesting word that sums up everything I've been saying. Gatekeeping. It is a group of "influencers" who can be medium fish in a small pond. They don't want the pond to grow because it makes them nobodies and because they cant just say whatever they want. Right now the WNBA is a cesspool of messy shit from gatekeepers who insist on inserting all their drama and activism and others afraid to speak up for fear of getting blackballed. And they're going down fighting but I think it's reached a point where their power is rapidly disappearing. That's why you're starting to see even the legends of their sport like Sheryl swoopes get absolutely roasted to the point of probably jeopardizing her career

That control has slowly shifted and with Caitlin playing as well as hyped theyre starting to get called out on their bullshit. Even espn after their ridiculous rookie rankings is starting to hop on the Clark train.

Indiana beat a bottom feeder again but Boston got 30, Mitchell 21 and Clark 26 & 12. The turnover woes remain though as she had nine this time to take her tally up to 204 turnovers. She's on course to obliterate the worst turnover average over a season in wnba and nba history. This is truly unprecedented.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Most missed shots within 5 feet in WNBA HISTORY: <br><br>1. Natalie Williams (2003): <br><br>129 misses in 34 games (51 FG%)<br><br>2. Angel Reese (2024):<br><br>125 misses in 25 games (45.6 FG%) <a href="https://t.co/nKLgUrLHDA">pic.twitter.com/nKLgUrLHDA</a></p>&mdash; BricksCenter (@BricksCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/BricksCenter/status/1832858410028843373?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

3 out of her last 5 games, Angel Reese had 6 turnovers in each game. That's hard to do for a post player that rarely handles the ball. Just admit it, Angel is an average player and Caitlin is one of the best players in the game. It's obvious to everyone but you and Sheryl Swoopes.

45% from 5 feet. 39% overall. While not being a 3point shooter. People need to stop saying that she is even GOOD let alone was a rookie of the year candidate. Anybody will accumulate stats if they are allowed to play big minutes and have high usage. You wont win many games if ur post player shoots 39%.

I think you should be banned for spamming. No one gives a shit about her turnovers and her "obliterating" the turnover record. There has never been a player in the WNBA like Clark and she's so good at passing that her turnover rates will be high, because the players in the league arent use to getting these types of passes and don't have a quick enough reaction time to catch the passes.

BWillie knows women's basketball!

I like how the announcer said the shot was "Off the mark".