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Reaper16 06-09-2010 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6810569)
Sweet. I'll definitely read that, if only because Jeff Passan is involved.

Sure-Oz 06-09-2010 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6810577)
Sweet. I'll definitely read that, if only because Jeff Passan is involved.
Exactly..do you follow him on twitter?

They have a death to bcs twitter too

effin twitter

KChiefs1 06-09-2010 07:05 PM
http://cfn.scout.com/2/975971.html

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So you’re confused by all the expansion talk that’s dominating the headlines during a time when the NBA Finals, the Stanley Cup chase, the LeBron watch, and the Washington Nationals’ call up of the next Roger Clemens should be owning every inch of the sports pages.

Join the club.

From the most dialed-in insiders to the heads of the college conferences, no one, absolutely no one, has a rock-solid handle on what’s exactly about to happen with the realignment changes expected to shake the college sports world to its core. On nothing but rumors, speculation, a whole bunch of posturing, and very, very quiet negotiations, the conferences have gone into crisis, red-alert, doomsday scenario mode as collegiate athletics creeps closer and closer to the most radical and important realignment in American sports since the NFL and AFL merged in 1970.

With a Reservoir Dogs-like Mexican standoff as each conference is waiting for one of the others to make the first major move, everyone has their plan ready to go into action once the shooting starts. How important is this? Not only are jobs on the line at the highest level of college athletics, but the reputations of universities, academically as well as athletically, are at stake. If you don’t think football has anything to do with the life of a college, try getting the University of Kansas out of its panic room (more on that in a moment).

The weaker conferences don’t want to make a move until they know who’s left standing to go after (example: the Mountain West declared it’s not doing anything about expansion right now as it waits to see who’s left over from the Big 12), while the bigger conferences are being forced to play out scenarios A, B, and C before as they attempt to put their respective puzzles together.

It’s all extremely confusing, very corporate, and wildly entertaining. Keeping in mind the bazillion different scenarios and even more egos involved (with all of them changing by the hour depending on the latest rumor), here are the basics with all the main players, what’s really happening, and what it means.

1) What will realignment mean for college sports fans (both casual and die-hards)?

Unless you’re a die-hard Big 12 supporter, the changes might not matter all that much for the fans on a typical Saturday. However, the product should be even sharper as the schools that accept the invite to move on will end up making more money, which will all go to better facilities, better coaches, and a better ability to attract the top recruits. Lip service will be paid to the idea of the extra dough going into a university for academic purposes, but in reality, the upgrade will only end up making each top sports program even stronger (and then, it could be argued, will upgrade the profile of the school as a whole). On the flip side, if a school doesn’t become a part of one of the new super-power conferences, the TV and bowl money will shrivel and the budgets will make it harder for the sports teams to keep up with the big boys.

2) Why are the conferences doing this now?

To quote the Jerry Jones’ three rules for being a successful salesman: ask for the money, ask for the money, and ask for the money.

ESPN and the SEC hooked up for a billion dollar deal and CBS just renegotiated a new deal for the men’s NCAA basketball tournament worth close to $11 billion. There’s a ton of TV money out there to be made, and the conferences and the schools want it. Remember, this has little to do with sports and has everything to do with big business, TV markets and potential revenue.

It all started several months ago with talk from the Big Ten about moving up the timetable on expansion discussion, with the initial idea to go after Rutgers to expand the Big Ten Network into the New York area. Next came the Big Ten’s backchannel leak about the idea of asking Texas to join, and boom went the dynamite.

The Pac 10, realizing that expanding with Boise State, Utah, and BYU wasn’t going to cut it, quickly came up with a plan of its own involving six Big 12 teams, the Big Ten then realized it had to have its plan solidified, and the Big 12 had to circle the wagons.

Once the first deal is officially made, this could all happen as quickly as next year, but with a little bit of a trickle. According to the most likely scenarios, the Big Ten will take on Nebraska, Missouri, and Rutgers within the next two years, possibly for 2011, to expand to 14 schools while leaving the door open for Notre Dame to eventually come in a few years later as part of a 16-team conference. The Pac 10 will also likely expand to 14 schools right away (again, this is an educated guess considering the Texas politics involved) with Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, and Colorado moving over while Texas and Texas A&M hang tight trying to decide where the best fit might be.

As far as figuring out who’s going where in the initial phase, expect most of the pieces to be in place by the end of the summer. The Big 12 has already issued an ultimatum to Nebraska and Missouri to declare their intentions sometime within the next week, so the dominoes could start to fall by early July.

3) Who are the biggest players?

At the moment, the key piece of the puzzle is Texas. Notre Dame is the big prize that everyone wants, and if athletic director Jack Swarbrick wakes up tomorrow and decides the time is right to join the Big Ten (or the SEC, or the Pac 10), it’s a done deal. But Notre Dame is a stand-alone, and no matter what the configurations of the conferences are, room will be made. Texas, on the other hand, is a political baggage nightmare that will require a lot of lobbying and a ton of negotiating.

If Texas decides that the Pac 10 is the right fit, then it’s cut and dry; the Pac 10 will take on Colorado, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, and Texas. However, because of the bigger reach, the better TV markets, and the time zone advantage, the Big Ten is stronger than the Pac 10. If the Big Ten believes Texas is in play for the Pac 10, then there will be recruiting battle of all recruiting battles. However, the Big Ten will then have to decide if it wants to take on Texas A&M, because there’s no way Texas will be going anywhere without the alma mater of Rick Perry, the Texas governor, riding shotgun. If Texas decides it wants to stay in the Big 12 and make a go of it, then there’s a great chance the rest of the Big 12 South schools stick around, too. It might make financial sense for Oklahoma to go to the Pac 10, but it would be a tough sell to the alumni and the fan base to blow off Texas and ruin the current ties.

And that’s where Nebraska and Missouri come in. If they decide to go to the Big Ten, Texas might not want to stick around in the weakened conference that already has a mediocre TV deal that would only get worse. That means the SEC could be interested in taking on Texas and Texas A&M if the Pac 10 and Big Ten don’t seem as attractive.

DenverChief 06-09-2010 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6810550)
Sports reporter Tweet...

# BlumbergOTB

Still get a mute button from MU Athletics. Text from an Associate AD says, "It's all speculation and I don't have anything to comment on." 14 minutes ago via web

If there wasn't something brewing they would be all over the place trying to fix this. Like Kansas was yesterday and today.
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Besides Nebraska, no other candidates are imminent for the Big Ten, which could stay put with 12 members, the source said.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5268408

Pants 06-09-2010 07:06 PM
alnorth is a very smart individual. That is all.

Reaper16 06-09-2010 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 6810591)
Yeah, because that's a firm statement. :rolleyes:

teedubya 06-09-2010 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Crush (Post 6810380)
Super Conferences Gone Wild



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Western Division
Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State
Cincinnati
Louisville
Memphis
Wake Forest
Virginia Tech
Marshall
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Connecticut
Syracuse
West Virginia
Boston College
Maryland
Virginia
Duke
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From what I've heard from the AD's that I've connected with... this isn't outside the realm of possibility. In fact, I'd expect something like this to shake out.

In fact, I've now heard back from 9 of the AD's and College Presidents/Chancellors that I emailed about this.

This definitely has legs.

But, take out Marshall or KSU or Iowa St... and add Kentucky.

Reaper16 06-09-2010 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 6810601)

In fact, I've now heard back from 9 of the AD's and College Presidents/Chancellors that I emailed about this.
Yeah, with form responses, right?

KChiefs1 06-09-2010 07:12 PM
http://cfn.scout.com/2/975972.html

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4) Who are going to be the biggest winners (and losers)?

If things go according to plan, the biggest winners early on will be Nebraska and Missouri. Missouri hasn’t been shy about wanting to join the Big Ten to become more prestigious academically while getting a much higher national profile. With the Big Ten TV markets and the reach to the Atlantic Ocean if Rutgers comes aboard, Mizzou would grow by leaps and bounds. The same will go for Nebraska, who would go from being known as a powerhouse football school to being in the big boy club academically as well as advancing the brand name even more athletically.

Of course, the biggest winners overall will be the Big Ten and the Pac 10, who’ll make money hand over fist with the expanded leagues, the better product, and the stronger TV deals. The Pac 10 needs to expand more than the Big Ten does, but the Big Ten wants to keep its dominance as the biggest conference in America by trying to control most of the top markets.

However, if Missouri and Nebraska choose to stick around, then the Big 12 will be one of the biggest winners simply by weathering the first part of the storm, while the Big Ten would be a huge loser with egg on its face after getting spurned. Rounding out to just 12 teams by bringing aboard Rutgers would be a failed Chicago Olympic bid-like embarrassment of epic proportions.

As bad as things will be for the Big 12 if there’s a mass exodus, life will be even worse for Kansas if it’s the biggest-name school left standing when all the music stops. KU Chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little has made phone calls lobbying to Nebraska and preaching solidarity (although the school would LOVE to get an invite from the Big Ten or the Pac 10). Gray-Little has expressed well-founded concerns that the university’s status and prestige would take a major hit if everyone else of note leaves. The same goes for Baylor, who has influential alumni all across the Texas government. It’s a slap as is to not be included in the Pac 10’s invite of the other five members of the Big 12 South, but there isn’t a lot that school president Kenneth Starr can do.

5) What’s going to happen to the Big 12?

There’s a lot of huffing and puffing from those not involved in the Big Ten and Pac 10 expansion talk, but there isn’t much that Kansas, Baylor, or Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe can really do if the six courted schools want to go.

It’ll be a total and complete shock if Nebraska and Missouri’s move to the Big Ten isn’t an unannounced done deal. There’s no way Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany, one of the sharpest knives in the drawer, would’ve let the media speculation get this far without there being some truth behind the rumors. If this wasn’t a done deal (or really, really close), the Big Ten would’ve spun this about ten different directions about how it really didn’t want Nebraska or Missouri in the first place.

A wounded Big 12, if it loses six schools, could end up trying to merge with the Mountain West in some way while also bringing aboard a few select Conference USA schools like Houston and/or SMU.

6) In the Big Ten’s perfect world, what does it want?

At this point, the most realistic scenario has Nebraska, Missouri, and Rutgers joining the Big Ten as soon as possible to create a 14-team league for now, with Notre Dame signing on in either in 2015 after the NBC deal is up, or earlier if there’s a buyout either from NBC (the ratings haven’t been stellar) or from the Big Ten (who’ll pay ANY sort of a fine if it means getting the Irish). The dream would be to bring in Texas as the 16th team, but that’s not going to happen without Texas A&M coming along. More realistically, the Big Ten will get hit with a major lobbying effort from Kansas, or it’ll end up continuing the expansion east by bringing in Pitt.

7) In the Pac 10’s perfect world, what does it want?

Texas. The Pac 10 doesn’t care what other five schools round things out as long as it gets the Longhorns. Colorado has been all but putting the Pac 10 logo on its letterheads when all the expansion talk started, and Oklahoma has been a surprisingly underrated and undervalued part of the puzzle. If the Pac 10 gets Colorado, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M and Texas Tech, everything will work according to the Pac 10’s biggest pie-in-the-sky plans.

8) Does this mean the end of the BCS (and does this make a playoff more likely)?

No, and it probably means the BCS will become more firmly entrenched than ever. Schools will be making so much money that the presidents and administrators will never want to get out of the treasure bath. Because of all the dough coming in from TV deals and expanded bowl payouts for the biggest post-season games, the lure of making more money from a playoff, while radically changing the college football world even further, will be lessened.

9) How will Notre Dame fit into the picture?

If the Irish aren’t going to the Big Ten right away, they’ll likely sit back and wait until the smoke clears. There’s no real hurry or urgency to join a league. Money isn’t a problem, the football team is no position to contend for a title in the Big Ten, SEC, or Pac 10, and everyone around there loves the independent status. Again, assume the Big Ten expands to 14 now and leaves the door open for Notre Dame to come join the party in a few years. However, Notre Dame’s biggest issue could be scheduling, considering it books games and matchups several years in advance; it’ll have to break several contracts to join a league. Notre Dame will almost certainly be in a conference at some point in the next five years, but don’t assume it’s going to be the Big Ten. The SEC will have its say in the debate before all is said and done.

10) Is expansion a good thing or a bad thing?

If things go according to form, this isn’t going to be a bad thing in any way for the fans other than the Big 12 die-hards. The games will take on an even bigger feel, no Michigan-Ohio State-like rivalries will be split up, and new monster matchups will form. Imagine Oklahoma and USC in the same division, or Nebraska and Iowa facing off in a regional battle that would instantly become one of college football’s fiercest rivalries.

Remember, the world kept spinning after the Big 8 and Southwest Conference combined forces to create the Big 12, the Big Ten was more than fine after bringing in Penn State, and the ACC has grown into a far more interesting conference after raiding the Big East (even though no one’s watching). And to those of you about to whine about college football looking more professional in the presentation and coverage, that ship sailed long ago. (Remember, college football was more professional looking than professional football back in the first fifty years of the last century.) There’s always D-III and the Ivy League to give you the amateur feel you’re longing for.

The bigger TV packages will mean more coverage, better on-line access to every team, and more choices (like a Pac 10 network and an expanded Big Ten Network) to provide as much access to as much entertainment and as much information as a fan could want. More access to games is a good and necessary thing, especially considering the voters in the college football polls need to be as informed as possible.

There’s a chance this could end up being as big a deal for the academic side of the equation as it will be for the sports teams. The Big Ten and Pac 10 have a far better academic reputation than the other conferences, especially the Big 12, and to join means a major upgrade in how a degree will look. From a research and prestige standpoint, changing conference alignments would be a really, really big step forward for several schools currently in the Big 12.

DenverChief 06-09-2010 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6810597)
Yeah, because that's a firm statement. :rolleyes:
:spock: there is more the "source" said but it was about Kneebraska moving to the Big Ten

read the article jeesh

teedubya 06-09-2010 07:17 PM
WTFX is reporting the deal is done.

Saul Good 06-09-2010 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6810603)
Yeah, with form responses, right?
No way. They offered millions for the rights to web domains and told him the Chiefs were going to draft Jimmy Claussen.

teedubya 06-09-2010 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6810603)
Yeah, with form responses, right?
Actually none were form responses... except from RC Johnson... that may have been a form response.

Pablo 06-09-2010 07:22 PM
Mizzou got cock-teased real nice like. I mean the Big 10 was wearing those tight jeans with holes and a lacy, black thong. Just grinding up hard on that Tiger dick. Rubbing it's sexy little number all over them tigger thighs. Then when your throbbing, pink popsicle was about to burst through your stripes; she reached back and donkey-kicked you right in the balls.

Then went and sucked off Brad in the parking lot because he had a Trans Am.

booger 06-09-2010 07:22 PM
Another rumor: From a NW Wildcat forum.
 
Breaking: Big Ten Offers Texas, Texas A&M, Missouri and Notre Dame

http://northwestern.rivals.com/showm...id=901&style=2

Archie Bunker 06-09-2010 07:24 PM
http://my.journalstar.com/post/Huske...nvite_yet.html

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Regent chair doesn't know of any Big Ten offer
Posted by: Brian Christopherson
on June 9, 2010 at 6:18PM CST

Just finished talking with Bob Phares. He's the chairman of Nebraska's Board of Regents and was part of the Executive Committee that met today and decided to add conference affiliation talk to this Friday's regent meeting agenda.

I asked Phares about reports circulating through cyberspace that Nebraska's Board of Regents have agreed to move to the Big Ten and that a formal announcement Nebraska is leaving will come Friday.

Phares answer: “First of all, there are several factual errors. No. 1, there’s been no vote by the board at all. No. 2, as I understand it, there are no invitations that are extended. You decide if you wish to make an application and then they react to your application.

"And I heard that there were reports that Tom Osborne had advised all of his staff that it was a done deal. You can talk to Tom and see what his comment is. I would be immensely surprised if that was the case, because as I said there’s been no vote by the board and no formal decision.”

The Journal Star has spoken to coaches from three different sports who said there has been no meeting with Osborne since last Friday.

This process seems to be moving forward rapidly, but there do seem to be some premature reports floating about.

***Update: Another statement from the University of Nebraska:

"A report being circulated this afternoon among sports media stating that the University of Nebraska Board of Regents 'met informally' today and have 'agreed to move to the Big Ten' is not accurate. Members of the Board's executive committee met via conference call to discuss the agenda for Friday's meeting. Such meetings routinely take place prior to Board meetings. At its meeting on Friday, the Board will be briefed on UNL athletic conference alignment and consider a resolution. No action was taken during today's conference call, and none will be taken prior to Friday's meeting."

DeezNutz 06-09-2010 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by booger (Post 6810621)
Breaking: Big Ten Offers Texas, Texas A&M, Missouri and Notre Dame

http://northwestern.rivals.com/showm...id=901&style=2
"Just spoke to a friend at the Big Ten..."

LMAO.

DeezNutz 06-09-2010 07:26 PM
Hold on, folks, Brad might not actually have a Trans Am. It might be just a Firebird.

Big 10 not sure if that's enough to warrant services.

teedubya 06-09-2010 07:27 PM
Im just glad that MU got a little uncertainly so they would stop gloating... they can go the Big 10, that's fine, but at least a day or two of relative peace is nice. lol

LanceHunter 06-09-2010 07:27 PM
And then Congress steps in and takes away the tax exempt status of the super rich big 16 conferences, led by a big BCS hater Orin Hatch, senator from Utah muahahahaha.

DeezNutz 06-09-2010 07:27 PM
I feel like it's the final scene in Over the Top, and we want that mother****ing semi.

Sure-Oz 06-09-2010 07:30 PM
I have Over the Top on DVD, its still unopened #fail

booger 06-09-2010 07:32 PM
just another example of the caos this is causing and a local BB with a friend in the AD, except this time the actual conference offices. Christ they should just blow it all up pick lead teams and hold a draft.

Pants 06-09-2010 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by booger (Post 6810654)
just another example of the caos this is causing and a local BB with a friend in the AD, except this time the actual conference offices. Christ they should just blow it all up pick lead teams and hold a draft.
:spock:

Crush 06-09-2010 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by booger (Post 6810654)
just another example of the caos this is causing and a local BB with a friend in the AD, except this time the actual conference offices. Christ they should just blow it all up pick lead teams and hold a draft.
With the 1st pick, the Big Ten selects... Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU.

KChiefs1 06-09-2010 07:34 PM
PeteThamelNYT: I talked to Bill Self today. He wasn't a happy guy. Looks bad for KU.

Bugeater 06-09-2010 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Crush (Post 6810660)
With the 1st pick, the Big Ten selects... Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU.
MOTHER**** YOU BIG TEN!!!

teedubya 06-09-2010 07:35 PM
The presidents of the Mountain West Conference decided Monday not to expand the nine-team league at this time.

Commissioner Craig Thompson said the decision to hold off on expansion is tied to the shake-ups and shifting landscape in some of the nation's bigger conferences.

Officials from the Big Ten, Pac-10 and Big 12 are considering adding schools or reorganizing.

Thompson said the decision is not final, and that the board may reconsider once the dust settles in the other conferences.

"Due to the uncertainty in the intercollegiate landscape, the board did not make a decision to expand at the present time," Thompson said at the end of the board's annual meeting in Jackson, Wyo. "The Mountain West will continue to monitor developments ... and prepare for potential scenarios."

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Mountain West commissioner Craig Thompson discusses his conference's decision not to extend an invite to Boise State and the rumors of realignment around the country.

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Boise State officials and fans had hoped to join the Mountain West and leave the Western Athletic Conference, a league the Broncos have dominated for a decade in football.

But the University of Colorado is also on the conference's radar.

When asked if Colorado came up in talks Monday, Thompson said, "Yes," according to the Denver Post.

Colorado might be looking for a new conference if the Pac-10 and Big Ten raid the Big 12 in expanding their conferences. Colorado reportedly also has been mentioned in some Pac-10 expansion scenarios.

Moving to the Mountain West could have generated more revenue for the athletic department, increased athletic competition in football, basketball and other sports and given the Broncos a clearer path to college football's biggest stage, the Bowl Championship Series.

The Mountain West includes Brigham Young, Utah and TCU, which the Broncos beat in the Fiesta Bowl in January.

Boise State president Bob Kustra said the decision by Mountain West officials is understandable.

"The most appropriate action at this juncture is to wait and see how the variables unfold," Kustra said in a statement. "The opportunity has not been lost."

Boise State has until July 1 to notify the WAC of any intentions to leave the conference and begin playing elsewhere in 2011. Thompson said he intended to schedule a conference call with the nine Mountain West presidents before that deadline.

"I don't think the door is closed," he said. "The interest the board had in particular in Boise State coming into the meeting probably hasn't changed going out of the meeting."

WAC commissioner Karl Benson figured Boise State was bound to bolt for the Mountain West. So much so that as the board of directors and athletic directors assembled in Las Vegas for the conference's annual meeting this week, they discussed contingency plans.

The conference didn't want to be caught off guard.

"I think everyone was anticipating and expecting it," Benson said in a conference call Monday night. "All the signals out there were pointing in the direction that any invitation would come today. ... This is an unbelievably volatile period. The poker playing that is going on I think is unprecedented.

"Regardless of what changes might occur, we are poised to move forward either with our existing membership or with any membership changes that may occur."

Benson said there wasn't any bitterness toward Boise State officials at the meeting, the relationship remaining quite cordial.

The WAC is keeping its options open, too, scouring for schools. Benson said there are five or six candidates from the Football Championship Series the conference is keeping an eye on.

However, Benson wouldn't elaborate on which schools might potentially be in the mix.

"Regardless of what the Mountain West might do, or Boise State might do, the WAC is going to continue to be a credible and recognizable conference," Benson said.

Broncos coach Chris Petersen, who has compiled a 49-4 record and won three WAC titles in four years, said the decision doesn't change anything about his plans for next season.

"We have a very challenging non-conference and conference schedule ahead of us and we are not planning to change our goals because of today's decision," he said.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

booger 06-09-2010 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Crush (Post 6810660)
With the 1st pick, the Big Ten selects... Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU.
ROFL

booger 06-09-2010 07:44 PM
screw it. to many ?'s surrounding all this. I am getting hammered and then naked and running around the block screaming the russians are coming. that always makes the neighbors happy with me and helps releive tension.

WildTurkey 06-09-2010 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Crush (Post 6810660)
With the 1st pick, the Big Ten selects... Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU.
Strike One!!!1111!!1!1eleventy!!!!1 for the Big Ten :cuss:

healthpellets 06-09-2010 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by booger (Post 6810621)
Breaking: Big Ten Offers Texas, Texas A&M, Missouri and Notre Dame

http://northwestern.rivals.com/showm...id=901&style=2
that would be...amazing.

Titty Meat 06-09-2010 07:55 PM
Okay gang, So I was visiting a farmers market in Nebraska and I saw Bo pelini. He was wearing a gray sweatshirt and red sneakers. I asked what confrence schedule will they be playing in a few years. He smiled and said Big Ten.

WildTurkey 06-09-2010 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6810726)
Okay gang, So I was visiting a farmers market in Nebraska and I saw Bo pelini. He was wearing a gray sweatshirt and red sneakers. I asked what confrence schedule will they be playing in a few years. He smiled and said Big Ten.
did you get a picture taken with him? :evil:

Reerun_KC 06-09-2010 08:21 PM
KU is fixing to shit the bed in this conference deal...

|Zach| 06-09-2010 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6810726)
Okay gang, So I was visiting a farmers market in Nebraska and I saw Bo pelini. He was wearing a gray sweatshirt and red sneakers. I asked what confrence schedule will they be playing in a few years. He smiled and said Big Ten.
ROFL

teedubya 06-09-2010 08:23 PM
Reerun!! The sky is falling!!! grab your umbrellla!!

|Zach| 06-09-2010 08:26 PM
Everyone needs some calming music.

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|Zach| 06-09-2010 08:30 PM
As the Big 12 burns, remember that Mizzou didn't start the fire

ROFL from RockMNation

http://www.rockmnation.com/2010/6/9/...that#storyjump

The world watches as the Big 12 continues its hellbent path to self-immolation. As has been noted on numerous previous occasions, the public sentiment about formalities, attitudes, and blame have all shifted dramatically in the past few months and especially in the past week. But as the college football landscape awaits its rebirth from the presumed ashes of the smoldering Big 12, it's important that we note that neither Missouri, nor Nebraska, nor Texas shoulder the blame. And, it is the truth behind that fact that inspired me to create this musical tribute to the absurdity of Big 12 football's brief history after the jump.

Texas schools, Big Eight, new alliance will be great.
'96, new world, Steven J. Hatchell.
Neuheisel, Bevo pokes 'em, Osborne, R.C. Slocum,
Glen Mason, Terry Allen on to Mangino.

Merge together, title game, old way, pretty lame.
NU's a heavyweight, this is going pretty great.
Roll Left, James Brown, mighty Huskers go down,
Title leaves UNL, chaos in STL.

We didn't start the fire.
It was always burning,
Since the world's been turning.
We didn't start the fire.
No we didn't light it,
But we tried to fight it.

Davidson, Scott Frost, still can't believe we lost.
Larry Smith, Corby Jones, running back Brock.
Flea kick, in the air, Shevin Wiggins, such despair,
O.T. game, and heartbreak at Faurot.

'98, looking mean, Snyder's got a winning team,
Purple Reign, EMAW, Wabash Cannonball,
Bishop, Gramatica, Cats one game from it all.
K-State had it won? Parker to pylon.

We didn't start the fire.
It was always burning,
Since the world's been turning.
We didn't start the fire.
No we didn't light it,
But we tried to fight it.

Eric Crouch, San Anton, defense, in the dome,
Heupel, Bob Stoops, OU rallies troops.
Sooners, Seminoles, Orange Bowl football,
Sears trophy, raised above, Norman feels the love.

Applewhite, Chris Simms, Mike Leach, movin' in,
Les Miles, OSU, Sooners fall right on cue.
CU, UT, Horns run and flee,
Irving hero? Sorry Major, no go.

We didn't start the fire.
It was always burning,
Since the world's been turning.
We didn't start the fire.
No we didn't light it,
But we tried to fight it.

'03, crimson cream, Sooners are the greatest team,
Jason White, Heisman, KSU invasion,
Peterson mania, ISU had Seneca,
Longhorns, risen since, USC falls to Vince.

Colorado, writing checks,
Barnett selling sex.
Fiesta Bowl, trick plays,
What else do I have to say?

We didn't start the fire.
It was always burning,
Since the world's been turning.
We didn't start the fire.
No we didn't light it,
But we tried to fight it.

Chase Daniel, Colt McCoy, North has some new toys.
Boulder. Lubbock. Upsets, in the mix.
Armageddon Arrowhead, Reesing and the grass are wed,
Hogs eat Temple's smoke, OU Fiesta choke.

Harrell to Crabtree, BCS can't deal with three,
UT's back, 2010, injury was not their friend.
Adam James in a shed, conference is left for dead,
ADs whine, rumors roar, I can't take it anymore...

We didn't start the fire.
It was always burning,
Since the world's been turning.
We didn't start the fire.
No we didn't light it,
But we tried to fight it.

DJ's left nut 06-09-2010 08:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by healthpellets (Post 6810709)
that would be...amazing.
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

If we leave the Big 12 only to STILL have to put up with mother****ing Texas I will lose my mind.

Just say no, Tejas. You deserve the Pac-10.

(P.S. This guy is just as full of shit as everyone else. That is all).

Bugeater 06-09-2010 08:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6810797)

Davidson, Scott Frost, still can't believe we lost.
Grrr...It's effing "Davison".

WildTurkey 06-09-2010 08:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6810778)
KU is fixing to shit the bed in this conference deal...
Relax, it will either be the Big East or the Big 12 for KU..... at least I hope :rolleyes:

|Zach| 06-09-2010 08:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6810804)
Grrr...It's effing "Davison".
Maybe thats your Chase Daniel(s) heh

Bambi 06-09-2010 08:36 PM
This would all be much more exciting if Big 10 football was actually enjoyable to watch.

healthpellets 06-09-2010 08:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 6810799)
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

If we leave the Big 12 only to STILL have to put up with mother****ing Texas I will lose my mind.

Just say no, Tejas. You deserve the Pac-10.

(P.S. This guy is just as full of shit as everyone else. That is all).
guess the sarcasm isn't transmitting today.

healthpellets 06-09-2010 08:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6810813)
This would all be much more exciting if Big 10 football was actually enjoyable to watch.
i would much rather watch Missouri run a pro-style offense over the spread any day. so i don't mind watching B10 football at all.

Bambi 06-09-2010 08:45 PM
This would all be much more exciting if Big 10 football was actually enjoyable to watch.

kepp 06-09-2010 08:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6810629)
"Just spoke to a friend at the Big Ten..."

LMAO.
That's akin to, "Here, hold my beer."

|Zach| 06-09-2010 08:49 PM
I just like the tradition of the Big 10. Cold weather...hard hitting football. Obviously if these different teams swarm into the Pac 10 it is a different story but I just don't connect well with Pac 10 football. People don't seem to care as much. Great places to visit but if I want to watch but I don't think of them when I think football.

Saul Good 06-09-2010 08:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6810827)
This would all be much more exciting if Big 10 football was actually enjoyable to watch.
How's MWC football to watch?

kepp 06-09-2010 08:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by healthpellets (Post 6810825)
i would much rather watch Missouri run a pro-style offense over the spread any day. so i don't mind watching B10 football at all.
Absolutely...especially this year when there are some really nice pro-style RBs coming out of MO high schools that we won't get because we're a spread team.

siberian khatru 06-09-2010 08:54 PM
Hot off the ... pixels ... from Dave Matter:

http://www.columbiatribune.com/weblo...ssouri-domino/

Is there a Missouri domino?

By Dave Matter

Posted June 9, 2010 at 9:27 p.m.

"There's no need for argument
There's no argument at all
And if you never hear from him
That just means he didn't call
Or vice versa
That depends on where ever you're at
And if you never hear from me
That just means I would rather not
Oh oh Domino
Roll me over Romeo, there you go"
— Van Morrison, "Domino"


That’s right, Van. The first domino might have been tipped. Some outlets are reporting, in one fashion or another, that Nebraska has been invited to the Big Ten Conference.

Or not. The Lincoln Journal Star indicates those reports might be premature. Bob Phares, chairman of Nebraska’s Board of Regents, told the newspaper: "First of all, there are several factual errors. No. 1, there’s been no vote by the board at all. No. 2, as I understand it, there are no invitations that are extended. You decide if you wish to make an application and then they react to your application."

On the heels of that comment, Nebraska issued a release taking some teeth out of the other reports.

"A report being circulated this afternoon among sports media stating that the University of Nebraska Board of Regents 'met informally' today and have 'agreed to move to the Big Ten' is not accurate. Members of the Board's executive committee met via conference call to discuss the agenda for Friday's meeting. Such meetings routinely take place prior to Board meetings. At its meeting on Friday, the Board will be briefed on UNL athletic conference alignment and consider a resolution. No action was taken during today's conference call, and none will be taken prior to Friday's meeting."

Meanwhile, Chris Dufresne of the Los Angeles Times reports that the Pac-10 Conference is poised to invite six members of the Big 12: Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State and Colorado.

If these reports are accurate, and the Big 12 as we know it is crumbling apart, what does that mean for Missouri? Here’s what I've gathered from various sources:

● I’m told Missouri Athletic Director Mike Alden has been calm during this potential storm. Some folks close to the athletic department are convinced he has an ace up his sleeve … even though all the Big Ten attention has been centered on Nebraska the last 48 hours. I’m told that the major players in Missouri athletics — starting at the top with Alden and football Coach Gary Pinkel — have taken a serious oath not to leak a single word of the school’s plans and any communications with the Big Ten. "Not to their family, their lawyers, friends. Nobody," one prominent booster told me. Frankly, the tight seal around this topic is rare for Missouri. Someone at the highest level of the state government made the comment to me on Wednesday that, "Is it just me, or is Missouri exercising rare discipline in keeping quiet on this topic?" I absolutely agreed. And as Joe Walljasper pointed out in his column on Wednesday, often the school talking the least is the one that generates the least media buzz. "Reporters tend to champion the causes of those who call them back," Joe wrote. "Journalism abhors a vacuum."

● What does all this mean? Interpret at your own risk. There are a lot of theories out there as to how many schools the Big Ten intends to add … the role Notre Dame plays in all of this … the Big Ten's genuine interest in Missouri and Rutgers ... . Some of those theories and leads I’m hearing contradict each other, so there’s a lot of smoke billowing through phone lines and laptops. I’ll be at the UM Board of Curators meetings Thursday and Friday hopefully to shed some light on Missouri's scenario.

● What about the Big 12? I learned through a league source that last Friday, two top executives from Fox made what was described as an impressive presentation to the league presidents in Kansas City, a multi-network TV deal that would involve Fox, Fox Sports Net and F/X. The deal was described as competitive with the Southeastern Conference’s current deal with ESPN, worth "nine-figures" with a lifespan of more than 10 years. The proposed deal was essentially Commissioner Dan Beebe’s last resort to salvage the conference, and after the meeting, I’m told there was a strong sense that the league would be preserved, depending primarily on Nebraska’s decision to stay or go. As of Wednesday morning there was still hope within the league that Nebraska Chancellor Harvey Perlman and Athletic Director Tom Osborne would favor a return to the Big 12 contingent on the new Fox deal, rather than accept an offer from the Big Ten.

kepp 06-09-2010 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 6810853)
Hot off the ... pixels ... from Dave Matter:
Missouri's silence and lack of panic is really what's bolstering my hopes right now. And I wonder what the details of that Fox TV deal was. It sounds intriguing.

ChiefsCountry 06-09-2010 09:05 PM
Potential sleeper conference for Mizzou.........................SEC. Heard it from an Arkansas booster today, so who knows.

DeezNutz 06-09-2010 09:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6810872)
Potential sleeper conference for Mizzou.........................SEC. Heard it from an Arkansas booster today, so who knows.
Do. Not. Want.

kepp 06-09-2010 09:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6810872)
Potential sleeper conference for Mizzou.........................SEC. Heard it from an Arkansas booster today, so who knows.
I've heard that mentioned as an alternative if we get shafted by the Big10 and the Big12 folds. I wouldn't mind it, though we'd get slaughtered in football for a while.

sedated 06-09-2010 09:10 PM
Honestly, I don't see why there isn't an option to keep a central conference in the place of the Big 12. There will be 5 schools left (KU, KSU, ISU, MU, Baylor/Colorado).

There are a bunch of mid-major footbal programs that, combined, scream for BCS designation:
Boise State
Utah
BYU
TCU
Houston
Lousiville
Cincinatti
Navy
(...and...Notre Dame)

Plus a couple of strong basketball programs:
New Mexico
UNLV

siberian khatru 06-09-2010 09:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kepp (Post 6810880)
I've heard that mentioned as an alternative if we get shafted by the Big10 and the Big12 folds. I wouldn't mind it, though we'd get slaughtered in football for a while.
Yeah, I live in SEC country. Guess I could drive to Gainesville, Tuscaloosa, Oxford and Auburn and watch us get pounded.

luv 06-09-2010 09:13 PM
I can't wait until Friday gets here.

Reaper16 06-09-2010 09:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6810872)
Potential sleeper conference for Mizzou.........................SEC. Heard it from an Arkansas booster today, so who knows.
Quote:
Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 6810891)
Yeah, I live in SEC country. Guess I could drive to Gainesville, Tuscaloosa, Oxford and Auburn and watch us get pounded.
One one hand, I'd love to be able to catch an MU game while I'm living in Tuscaloosa. On the other hand, Mizzou football will get crushed (though basketball could do quite well).

KChiefs1 06-09-2010 09:18 PM
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com...n-big-ten.html

Quote:
The Big Red will be joining the Big Ten.

A source with knowledge of the expansion talks has confirmed to the Tribune that Nebraska will be invited to apply for Big Ten membership, a mere formality in the process. An announcement is expected Friday.

The league has not determined, the source said, whether it will remain at 12 schools or expand to 14.

Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said Sunday that the league "could act and act again" -- meaning that expansion could occur in phases..

Clearly, Delany knew that Nebraska, facing a loyalty ultimatum from the Big 12, would need resolution this week.

The Big Ten remains interested in both Notre Dame and Rutgers, and Delany appears willing to wait for a final response from the Irish.

A source at Notre Dame, though, indicated that the school likely has "moved on," with another saying that a top Notre Dame official assured the Big East that it intends to keep teams such as men's and women's basketball in the league.

If that's the case, the Big Ten appears likely to cap at 12 teams.

Part of the Big Ten's motivation to add only one school is its desire to avoid being viewed as responsible for causing college football Armageddon.

Texas officials have indicated that if Nebraska leaves, the Big 12 would dissolve, with Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado poised to join the Pac-10.

The New York Times reported that top officials at Texas and Texas A&M will meet Thursday in a final effort to keep the league intact. Adding a school such as TCU would do just that.

Those Big 12 talks -- and the potential breakup of the league -- could affect Nebraska's financial penalty and whether the Cornhuskers can join the Big Ten by 2011.

Nebraska had been hell-bent on joining the Big Ten, a source said, and the interest was mutual. The Big Ten gets a huge name to boost its brand and it gives the league three of the five winningest Division I programs in history (along with Michigan and Ohio State; the other two are Notre Dame and Texas).

It allows the conference to form two divisions and create a conference title game, addressing Penn State coach Joe Paterno's criticism that the league now takes a siesta in December.

One logical projection would have Nebraska, Iowa, Northwestern, Illinois, Wisconsin and Minnesota in the West and Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Michigan State, Purdue and Indiana in the East.

While it creates marquee, TV-friendly games such as Nebraska-Iowa and Nebraska-Wisconsin, expanding to 12 won't do much to stretch the reach of the Big Ten Network, which became profitable in its second year by attracting 45 million TV households.

Nebraska is a state of 1.8 million people and its largest TV market, Omaha, ranks 76th nationally with around 410,000 TV homes. That's smaller than Toledo.

Tom Osborne, the Nebraska athletic director who coached the Cornhuskers to national titles in 1994, '95 and '97 (shared with Michigan), said during a recent radio appearance that the school was not motivated by a publicly perceived beef with Big 12 rival Texas.

"This decision is not going to be based on animosity or petty jealousy," Osborne said. "You're talking about something that could maintain for the next 75-100 years

kepp 06-09-2010 09:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sedated (Post 6810888)
Honestly, I don't see why there isn't an option to keep a central conference in the place of the Big 12. There will be 5 schools left (KU, KSU, ISU, MU, Baylor/Colorado).

There are a bunch of mid-major footbal programs that, combined, scream for BCS designation:
Boise State
Utah
BYU
TCU
Houston
Lousiville
Cincinatti
Navy
(...and...Notre Dame)

Plus a couple of strong basketball programs:
New Mexico
UNLV
Navy? NOOOOOOOOO!!

KChiefs1 06-09-2010 09:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6810872)
Potential sleeper conference for Mizzou.........................SEC. Heard it from an Arkansas booster today, so who knows.
Insiders have been telling us this for awhile but I'm not sure I would like it.
KU would have a much easier road to hoe in the MWC vs MU in the SEC.

sedated 06-09-2010 09:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 6810661)
PeteThamelNYT: I talked to Bill Self today. He wasn't a happy guy. Looks bad for KU.
Probably because 3 of KU's top 4 forwards next year were injured in a scrimmage today. I doubt he's scouring the message boards like us losers.

|Zach| 06-09-2010 09:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sedated (Post 6810915)
Probably because 3 of KU's top 4 forwards next year were injured in a scrimmage today. I doubt he's scouring the message boards like us losers.
Yes.

I am sure the Big 12 breaking up is of no concern to him.

ArrowheadHawk 06-09-2010 09:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6810918)
Yes.

I am sure the Big 12 breaking up is of no concern to him.
Well he did an interview today if you really care what he thinks.

http://theshiver.com/2010/06/kansas-...ts-with-media/

a couple of things
Quote:
On if he pays attention to conference realignment talk: “It’s all that I think about at this point…”

“If this thing falls apart,” we won’t be able to go after the same kind of recruits.

Nebraska/Ohio State isn’t going to be a great rivalry. It’s still going to be Ohio State and Michigan. Ohio State/Nebraska will be a nice “other game.”

Titty Meat 06-09-2010 09:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6810926)
Well he did an interview today if you really care what he thinks.

http://theshiver.com/2010/06/kansas-...ts-with-media/

a couple of things
Yea Nebraska/Ohio State won't be a good rivarly game ROFL

ArrowheadHawk 06-09-2010 09:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by billay (Post 6810942)
Yea Nebraska/Ohio State won't be a good rivarly game ROFL
Nebraska/Ohio State will be a good game he's just saying it won't be a rivalry. For example OU/UT is a rivalry UT/NU is a good game.

Titty Meat 06-09-2010 09:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6810947)
Nebraska/Ohio State will be a good game he's just saying it won't be a rivalry. For example OU/UT is a rivalry UT/NU is a good game.
UT/Nebraska would be a rivalry game if they played every year and it's the game Nebraska fans look forward to the most this year. If Nebraska/OSU play every year they will be rivals. Just Like Iowa/Nebraska will no doubt be a rivalry game. It makes perfect sense for Nebraska to go to the Big Ten.

alanm 06-09-2010 09:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by billay (Post 6810366)
Who just Iowa? I could see Ohio State and Michigan too.
Don't forget Penn St.

Bugeater 06-09-2010 09:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by luv (Post 6810895)
I can't wait until Friday gets here.
If anything even happens on Friday, it may only be the beginning.


Quote:
Originally Posted by billay (Post 6810942)
Yea Nebraska/Ohio State won't be a good rivarly game ROFL
They may not even be in the same division, kinda hard to have a rivalry if you're not playing every year. With that said, it would make things interesting for me, the wife's family has very strong ties to Ohio State. I asked her tonight who she'd root for if/when the two teams played. She said Nebraska, but she had to think about it first.

ArrowheadHawk 06-09-2010 09:45 PM
Is Texas still fighting to save the big 12?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/sp...0colleges.html
Quote:
Nebraska Said to Be Leaving; Officials Scramble to Save Big 12
By PETE THAMEL
Officials from Texas and Texas A&M will meet Thursday morning in Austin in a last-ditch effort to save the Big 12 Conference. The regents, presidents and athletic officials from the universities are scheduled to meet with the hope of figuring out how to keep the conference together now that the departures of Nebraska and Colorado appear imminent.

Two Big 12 athletic directors, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not allowed to discuss the topic publicly, said that Nebraska was expected to join the Big Ten Conference when its board of regents meets Friday. The agenda of that meeting was amended to include conference realignment.

Nebraska’s departure would leave the Big 12 in a fragile state. League powerhouses like Texas and Oklahoma have reiterated that they would prefer to stay together. But the loss of Nebraska to the Big Ten and perhaps Colorado to the Pacific-10 would leave the conference vulnerable.

In a telephone interview Wednesday evening, Big 12 Commissioner Dan Beebe said there was “nothing official” to report on Nebraska. He said there had been a lot of misinformation throughout the months of rumblings of conference realignment and said there was a will within the conference to remain together.

“I think there’s a strong, strong interest to ensure that the Big 12 exists, regardless of any kind of possible departures,” Beebe said.

He added that the conference would not rule out carrying on without a conference football title game; N.C.A.A. rules require 12 members for such a game.

“It would be one less obstacle to getting into the national championship,” Beebe said. “I think television value would still be there. I’m not talking about any specific school that would be departing. It would still be an extremely strong conference and player in the national landscape.”

The Big Ten declined to confirm if it had issued an invitation to Nebraska. The Big 12 issued the Cornhuskers a deadline of Friday to essentially declare their interest in staying in the conference. That deadline and the imminent threat of the Pac-10’s expanding to 16 teams has seemingly made the colleges involved hurry.

“Everyone is picking up the pace,” the Ohio State president, E. Gordon Gee, said in a telephone interview Wednesday evening. “We can’t sit there in uncertainty.”

He added, “There’s no sense to how this ultimately will be resolved.”

Nebraska had emerged as the linchpin of the future of the Big 12, and now it appears gone. Colorado’s potential move to the Pac-10 would not cause frantic meetings, because its value as a member in football is limited compared with that of Nebraska.

If Nebraska departs as expected on Friday, that would force the remaining teams in the Big 12 to decide their next steps. The Pac-10 is expected to invite Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Colorado and Texas Tech to its league. With those invitations yet to be issued, the remaining teams in the Big 12 are scrambling to see if they can salvage their league.

“I think people realize that there’s something still viable, whether it remains at 11 or 10 or we look to expand back to 12 to keep this going,” a third Big 12 athletic director said. “We have a lot of equity and prestige and competitive balance.”

Beebe said that he was doing everything he could to save the league.

“It’s certainly been the most challenging time of my career,” he said. “Whatever occurs, and hopefully it will be a good result, I will have wanted to have left it all on the field. There’s no stone left unturned or bullet in the chamber. I’m doing everything that I can.”
Maybe they can still get that TV deal if they add the right schools. Since this is Football Driven why not add a couple of Boise State, BYU, UTAH, TCU, Houston and see if you can still get that TV contract.

baitism 06-09-2010 09:46 PM
If Texas really wanted to save the Big 12 they would offer equal revenue sharing....

We all know that won't happen.

healthpellets 06-09-2010 09:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6810956)

I asked her tonight who she'd root for if/when the two teams played. She said Nebraska, but she had to think about it first.
The choice of a lawyer is an important decision and should not be made based solely on advertisements.

Mecca 06-09-2010 09:59 PM
Of course Texas wants to save the Big 12, they have a sweetheart deal and a puppet commish, the league is set up for them to dominate and make the most money.

Not to mention it allows them to do their Longhorn network thing and make even more money, Texas is trying to keep their competitive advantage alive.

ArrowheadHawk 06-09-2010 10:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6810982)
Of course Texas wants to save the Big 12, they have a sweetheart deal and a puppet commish, the league is set up for them to dominate and make the most money.

Not to mention it allows them to do their Longhorn network thing and make even more money, Texas is trying to keep their competitive advantage alive.
I sure hope so.

sedated 06-09-2010 10:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6810926)
Well he did an interview today if you really care what he thinks.

http://theshiver.com/2010/06/kansas-...ts-with-media/

a couple of things
"What's sad to me...we are talking about a program that, in the last 5 or 3 years however you want to count it, that has won a national championship in basketball, been ranked #1 basically all season long except for 3 weeks another year, 3 times been a #1 seeds in the last 4 years in the NCAA tournament, and won the Orange Bowl in football. Florida has obvioulsy done that. Ohio State has rivaled that. How many other schools have performed at that level? And here we are talked about as a school that could be left out. Obvioulsy it has to do with television."

"This almost feels like a monopoly-type deal, and I don't think that anyone in the purest of sport would think thats a good thing."

ArrowheadHawk 06-09-2010 10:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sedated (Post 6810989)
"What's sad to me...we are talking about a program that, in the last 5 or 3 years however you want to count it, that has won a nathional championship in basketball, been ranked #1 basically all season long except for 3 weeks another year, 3 times been a #1 seeds in the last 4 years in the NCAA tournament, and won the Orange Bowl in football. Florida has obvioulsy done that. Ohio State has rivaled that. How many other schools have performed at that level? And here we are talked about as a school that could be left out. Obvioulsy it has to do with television."

"This almost feels like a monopoly-type deal, and I don't think that anyone in the purest of sport would think thats a good thing."
It's all about the Benjamins.

sedated 06-09-2010 10:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6810961)
Maybe they can still get that TV deal if they add the right schools. Since this is Football Driven why not add a couple of Boise State, BYU, UTAH, TCU, Houston and see if you can still get that TV contract.
That's what I'm saying. There are a ton of football programs that could save and help the Big 12. Add TCU and Houston to the south and move OU and OSU to the north. Or add Boise and Utah/BYU.

Honestly, I don't care about the "Texas rules us all" shit right now. The discrepancy is not that much (2 or 3 million in terms of 10 or 12 million) compared to losing BCS qualification and a historic basketball program.

sedated 06-09-2010 10:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6810990)
It's all about the Benjamins.
Thats right...dollar signs.

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