And if Jones thinks he should be in the realm of Bosa or any elite edge rusher's contract he should look at his tape of the failed experiment when he was given the chance to play that spot. Sorry CJ but DTs aren't as valued as edge. Donald is the extreme outlier and while he's a stud he's not Donald.

Are those figures based on any sort of reality, or are we just spit-balling?

He made the game ending sack on Burrow in the AFCCG lined up at DE. :shrug:

I mean it's not like the defense have been world beaters even with Jones on the field. 35 points allowed in the Super Bowl is nothing to brag about.

Jones played well in SF Bowl and Cincy playoff game this year. He was big time but he's not so incredible in every playoff run you give him whatever he commands.

would you rather have Chris Jones at 28M per year or Nick Bosa at $32M per year

The latter by a mile.

As would - I imagine - every NFL GM.

Short, very short-term memory around here.

Chris Jones changes the way the Chiefs play defense. Spags' can get flexible with the calls.

Pay the man!

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/pict...pictureid=2423

Remember how Jones thought it was over vs the Bills

https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-30-2023/4ILgv1.gif

That's why age is so critical.

The idea behind these deals that 're-set the market' is that they're locked in for 4-5 years and by the end of them, salary cap increases lead to those deals being pretty reasonable.

But you gotta have a guy you're comfortable will still be playing at high level in 4-5 years.

Bosa is the same age now as Jones was when he signed his deal and 're-set the market' for DTs. And that ended up working out well for both sides because there was a reasonable likelihood that by the end of the deal, the market caught up to the contract and the player maintained a high level throughout it.

So yeah, Bosa's the better bet and lets set aside the likely difference in pure ability. The AGE makes all the difference in the world here.

They're trying!

Unless you mean

in which case... no.

1,000%. And still, even at the same age, I'd rather have Bosa.

I have a video of him about 30 minutes later after he jumped into the stands right next to me and chugged a beer after we won.

I turned it into a gif that I’ve been waiting to post once he signed…

Man I hope you aren't hurting for hard drive space

hopefully we get to see that gif soon

Big surprise, chiefsplanet is full of stupid mother****ers who want to overpay the never win shit brothers to miss games.

The grass is always whiter on the other side of chiefsplanet.

are you referring to the Katz brothers

You're hilarious.

We will get jack shit from Jones this year even if he comes in. The only way to get better from him is for Veach to give in and if that's hasn't happened then it probably won't happen. Fells like both sides are just mad as hell right now. Jones must be super mad to go the route of losing 12 mil.

Wow dude…

Fixed it for you. Great post. 10/10

You start with a terrible argument that has little to do with Chris Jones situation, then loudly project an opinion on the board that almost no one is claiming, THEN blame the board for being racist because they have the opinion you made up about the topic that has almost nothing to do with the thread.


What a ride.

LMAO

i genuinely don't know if he means the Watt bros or the Bosa bros, but I'm pretty sure all four of them would have a ring if they were on a team with Mahomes.

jettio going to bat hard for somebody clearly being a jackass?

No way!

Maybe he means "brothers" in another way?? RAAAAAAACIIIIIIIIST!!!!!

Like... nobody is saying that Nick Bosa deserves more money because he's the right kind of guy in the locker room or a heady player or any of those other dog whistle bullshit things we all call out on the regular.

It's because he's the best ****ing pass rusher in the league.

For jettio

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: Nick Bosa will be with the team and available to play Week One in Pittsburgh. The two sides plan to get a deal done “within the next few days.”</p>&mdash; Jason Dumas (@JDumasReports) <a href="https://twitter.com/JDumasReports/status/1696895398487462285?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dude.

You're throwing things at Nick Bosa that are not factually accurate (he missed a season to a torn ACL but has otherwise been a very healthy player).

You're insinuating this is based on race, when the issue is more about age and willingness to come to the table and negotiate in good faith.

The dividing factor here is age. The main one, anyone. Consistency of impact is another. Nick Bosa has been a gamewrecker on the same level as 2022 Chris Jones every season he has played.

It would be a much safer bet to make him the highest paid defender in league history for the next four years than it would to make Jones the 2nd or 3rd, let alone the highest.

ITS TEH RACIZM!11 ROFL

Ah so now we are down to just Chris Jones trying to **** his team.

He’s just not that heady blue collar player who comes to work everyday with a lunch pail and is well spoken. I see that as the main problem.

If I were Patrick I'd be pissed because Chris is making this a melodramatic distraction.

he's the kind of gym rat guy you want to date your daughter.

Nick Bosa has had two years of 15+ sacks and he's still on his rookie contract. Come on, man.

Chris Jones had 2 sacks and Frank Clark had 1.5 sacks against 49ers while the best pass rushing never win shit miss games brother only had one in 2022 game at Santa Clara that Chiefs won 43-23.

is
 

I think there a Frank reference somewhere

Seriously, dude. You're invalidating anything you say by acting like Nick Bosa is injury prone.

He tore his ACL and missed his sophomore campaign. Other than that, he's been a consistently available guy. Tearing a knee doesn't make one injury prone in today's day and age.

Yes, it is impressive that he has missed more games than Chris Jones in three less seasons.

Pay that man Jalen Hurts money.

Pay him exactly what?

43 sacks in 4 years vs 65 sacks in 7 years.

You are reeruned.

IT DOESN'T MATTER JUST GIVE HIM WHATEVER HE WANTS YOU RACIST

You are making some of the worst arguments CP has ever seen. :clap:

It’s…glorious.

The fact that Frank Clark is a feather in the cap of your argument here should demonstrate how REALLY truly and remarkably shitty your argument is...

"Oh yeah, well in 2019 Daniel Sorensen had an interception and 8 tackles against the Chargers while bitch-ass Derwin James didn't even play. SORENSEN should get paid as much/more than James does..."

See? This is quite stupid.

As are you.

Have another shot, brah. The Old Crow is treating you extremely well.

The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition
 

****ing shit for brains.

LMAO At least he dropped the pretense that he wasn't race baiting

Beside the racial issues your having......I think your argument could have been much better if you asked the question Jones at $26M vs Bosa at $32M.

But you wanted to come out of the gates yelling that Jones as a DT should be paid more than Bosa as a DE. Thats not the market for each position and simply lost all credibility. Again, the racial stuff didn't help at all.

2018 Ohio State his last year there don’t count

Kinda wild to me that there’s not really been much talk from the big media guys on this or bosa

Bosa will be available Week 1:
https://twitter.com/JDumasReports/st...inalize-a-deal

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brett Veach asked about Chris Jones against the Lions…. “Actually the last two days we’ve been in more communication. We’re going to keep working on this thing and we’re looking forward to next Thursday and hopefully he’s in the lineup and ready to go.”</p>&mdash; Soren Petro (@SorenPetro) <a href="https://twitter.com/SorenPetro/status/1696995857478922602?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Well Golly, I guess his agent was in town for more than the BBQ. Shocked.

Lets go Chris Jones

I'm ready to see TwistedChief's gif drop

Where the **** is DJBill.

Get your ass in here and give us the skinny. There's no better time for some fan fiction.

Maybe Veach opened up football reference and realized Jones only has 2 playoff sacks.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jones just posted this on his IG story. <a href="https://t.co/DfEMzGRSQy">pic.twitter.com/DfEMzGRSQy</a></p>&mdash; Mark Gunnels (@MarkAGunnels) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkAGunnels/status/1697009370016698507?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yessss. I'm not mad anymore. Welcome back #95

because he's white - Jettio

2 Lombardis and 3 Conference Championships.

You guys badmouth a dude that helps Chiefs win Super Bowls in favor of a bodybuilder who knows what juice don't get caught in a screening.

**** a Nick Bosa and any of his fanboys.

Chiefs have not lost to the 49ers since Chris Jones has been here, and Nick Bosa was handled by Eric Fisher, Orlando Brown, Jr., and Andrew Wylie.

And **** Joey Bosa with his 87 total games played since he was #3 overall in the same draft that Chris Jones was #37 and Jones has played in 121 total games for the Chiefs, the team that some of the assholes around here say is their favorite.

Chris Jones: 1 mahomes
Nick Bosa: 0 mahomes

the only defensive stat that matters

Maybe I’m misremembering it, but I’m pretty sure Bosa was whooping Fisher’s ass almost all game in the Super Bowl. He was pretty much living in the backfield.

Was that Bosa or Buckner? Both, perhaps?

Funny. He's still sitting out.

I'll believe it when I see it.

PFF gave Bosa credit for 12 pressures, a QB Hit, and a sack.

PFF can be trash, so Pro Football Reference gave him credit 4 hurries, a QB Hit, and a sack.

Either way, that’s a pretty damn good game.

I'm not sure what Joey Bosa has to do with anything. Are you aware of the fact that Nick and Joey Bosa being brothers does not make them the same person?

Wait, what?

Don't get in the way of a well thought out argument! He's really making a believer out of me!!

Show us on the doll where the big strong white men from the gym dumped their roid raged loads on your girl.

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Go back a couple of pages, I pointed out that Nick Bosa is holding out also and said Chiefs will make a mistake if they do not offer to at least Joey Bosa AAV $27 million or TJ Watt AAV $28 million.

It is bullshit that this thread badmouths Chris Jones and his agent and does not acknowledge that another high profile holdout is happening also.

That is when the citizens council called the emergency meeting to argue about how pretty are the muscles of Joey and Nick and that they deserve to be the highest paid even though the never win shit and they miss games. Same thing for the Watt brothers.

Dumbasses think that Chiefs ought to die on the hill of offering Jones one dollar more than Quinnen Williams, I said that will not look good to the Defensive players in the Chiefs locker room if Nick Bosa becomes no. 1 or No.2 highest paid defender and Chiefs do not offer at least offer $27-$28 mill AAV to Jones.

Why is it bullshit if it’s not relevant to the Chiefs? It’s not relevant to their negotiations and it sure as hell isn’t relevant to Chiefs fans who are solely interested in what happens to/with the Chiefs. You’re attempting to force relevancy where there isn’t any. And then when we don’t accept your silly premise you accuse us all of being racists. Now THAT is bullshit.

If you go back a couple pages, you will also find that 97.3% of CP has classified you as a ****ing clown. Just for the record to keep things fresh for newcomers to the thread. Those other 2.69% deserve a voice.

What a shameful display of straw man fallacies, ad hominem fallacies, slothful induction fallacies, ignorance, and racism. You'll never convince me you aren't an old Oakland Raiders fanboy.

What percentage of the board is white people with no black friends?

Is 97.3 your guess for that?

I believe -King- is black and we're all friends with him. There was even an entire thread about him and his stooges.

I have black friends. I stand in line with them at 7-11 all the time.

jettio might be almost as racist as Clay.