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Deberg_1990 04-22-2013 02:18 PM

Anyway, small sample size warnings apply to everything here. There is much more to be pleased with than concerned, but in the interest of math, fair time, and leaning on a tired cliche, we offer three positives and three negatives … you know, three up and three down.
Let’s do the bad stuff first.

Mike Moustakas is hitting .158 with two extra-base hits in 57 at bats. Among 191 AL hitters with enough plate appearances to qualify, Moose is 187th with a .419 OPS. His walk rate is up and his strikeout rate down, but he sure doesn’t look comfortable at the plate. Lots of infield popups (nearly one-third of his at bats, actually), most of them to the left side. I’ve always thought Moose’s swing and plate approach will make for streaks both good and bad, and that his attitude and disposition are well-equipped to handle the wild ride. Yost has moved him down in the order, and it’ll be interesting to see what the Royals do if the struggles continue. This year isn’t about development.


Eric Hosmer has only one extra-base hit with 11 strikeouts, and hasn’t given anyone reason to forget about last year’s struggles. There’s too much talent there and the season still too young to freak out, but it’d be nice if the Royals didn’t have to keep reassuring themselves. Hosmer is only 23 years old, but 1,213 plate appearances mean we should be seeing the talent come through. Yost has said he wants to stick with his latest lineup more consistently, and Hosmer hitting cleanup is the key to making it work.


Sal Perez is on pace to play in all 162 games. Yeah, OK, fine. The Royals have had enough offdays that that’s a bit misleading. Five other catchers have played in 17 games. Two have played in 18. But Yost has said he could see playing Perez 150 games, and so far that looks like the low end. I’m all for Perez being in the game. He is the Royals’ most valuable asset, the pitchers love him, it’s all good. But he’s also 22 years old, under club control through 2019, and coming off a major knee injury that wiped out half of last season. George Kottaras is one of the better backup catchers in baseball. Some discretion here might be prudent.


And now, the up:

James Shields and Ervin Santana are terrific. Really, you could include the entire rotation here, but the front two guys have been especially good: eight combined starts, and none worse than six innings and four runs. Santana’s last three starts have gone for 23 innings, four earned runs, four walks and eighteen strikeouts. If the pitching holds up anything close to this, the Royals are going to be in this thing when the weather begins to cool off.


Alcides Escobar is hitting with some power. He has four doubles and two homers in 68 at bats. He hit .293 last year, and there’s a chance that will end up as his career high. But I know a few scouts who think he’ll continue to develop power, and be a guy who can hit .275 or so with 15 homers and 35-40 doubles. Occasional lapses in attention at shortstop aside — if you notice, they never seem to happen in key moments — that’s perennial All-Star production.


Lorenzo Cain is hitting absolutely everything: .368 with a .509 slugging percentage. Cain is a fascinating player for the Royals, because the talent is obvious, he plays a premium defensive position well (when Alex Gordon’s not getting in the way) and can be a productive hitter in the middle of the lineup. It’s just a matter of staying healthy. So far, so good.


Bonus positive No. 1: Gordon is hitting nearly as well as Cain, but by now is good enough that it doesn’t make this list.

Bonus positive No. 2: Billy Butler is struggling, by his and others’ descriptions, but still leads the team in RBIs, has a .375 on-base percentage, and a 119 OPS+.

Bonus positive No. 3: Luke Hochevar hasn’t given up a run in his last three outings, and has a 1.69 ERA in his new career as a reliever. There is some luck involved here, with lineouts and such, but maybe this new role can work.


http://mellinger.kansascity.com/entr...-place-royals/

Demonpenz 04-22-2013 02:19 PM

ESPN has to get viewers and pumping up Red Sox fans does that. The MidWest people are slowly not giving a **** what ESPN has to say.

mr. tegu 04-22-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9614456)
It's going to be a lot more than +130...a LOT more.

Best pitcher in baseball...possibly the best lineup in baseball...in Detroit...against the #5 starter...and a team that can't hit.

They have scored four runs in their last 43 innings.

Pitt Gorilla 04-22-2013 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 9614470)
Good Lord, you're a ****ing reerun.

Pretty sure he knows that.

alnorth 04-22-2013 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9614455)
That's not really important. You can replace bad production easily anyway. The key is getting him down to AAA so he can get back on track and get confidence back. I don't see how facing Verlander and Sherzer etc will help him with that.

Your still talking as if we aren't trying to win this year. We won't win with his replacements, and we can't give him a couple months in Omaha. He's got to figure it out, and he's got to do it right now.

Saul Good 04-22-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9614600)
They have scored four runs in their last 43 innings.

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9614619)
We beat Verlander last year in Sept. with Hochevar starting and the Tigers were in the middle of the division race.

Be that as it may, it's going to be considerable higher than +130. This has all the makings of one of the biggest spreads of the season.

Deberg_1990 04-22-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9614624)
Be that as it may, it's going to be considerable higher than +130. This has all the makings of one of the biggest spreads of the season.

Nope, i was wrong. But still, anything is possible, but it will be tough.

alnorth 04-22-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9614624)
Be that as it may, it's going to be considerable higher than +130. This has all the makings of one of the biggest spreads of the season.

+160 is the kind of spread that Miami and Houston get. I think we'll settle in around +130, at least for tomorrow.

I can see Wednesday getting an ugly spread.

alnorth 04-22-2013 03:02 PM

Detroit has slipped a little on the AL Central prop bet.

Detroit -300
Kansas City +400
Cleveland +1000
Chicago +1200
Minnesota +2000

implied odds (when you force them to add up to 100%)

DET 64.3%
KC 17.2%
CLE 7.8%
CWS 6.6%
MIN 4.1%

DeezNutz 04-22-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9614424)
It's really sad that this can't-miss future star who played great as a 21 year old has turned into Ross Gload two years later. Just tragic.



(Gload career Slugg: .408. Hosmer: .406)

We'd probably be wise to temper our pessimism just a bit.

gblowfish 04-22-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9614424)
It's really sad that this can't-miss future star who played great as a 21 year old has turned into Ross Gload two years later. Just tragic.



(Gload career Slugg: .408. Hosmer: .406)

Hey now, lighten up on Ross Gload!

stonedstooge 04-22-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9614431)
These guys will get through it and they are a couple years away from being busts. I just wonder if there isn't something going on from a coaching perspective that is holding them back. I know I have beaten this drum repeatedly, but I think there has to be something to the fact that a lineup with so much potential has struggled so mightily.

Ned tried to blame it on Seitzer as evident by his dismissal during the offseason. I think it goes up one more level as to the problem. Ned pissed me the **** off yesterday when after several bad calls, especially the Cain steal of second that was missed, Ned did nothing to protect his player. Ned could be a good manager, but managing a young team takes a different set of skills that I don't think Ned possesses. My guess as to why Francoeur is still on the team. He does what Ned doesn't want to or can't do.

duncan_idaho 04-22-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 9614655)
Ned tried to blame it on Seitzer as evident by his dismissal during the offseason. I think it goes up one more level as to the problem. Ned pissed me the **** off yesterday when after several bad calls, especially the Cain steal of second that was missed, Ned did nothing to protect his player. Ned could be a good manager, but managing a young team takes a different set of skills that I don't think Ned possesses. My guess as to why Francoeur is still on the team. He does what Ned doesn't want to or can't do.

Yost's biggest asset is his handling of young players. That's the only thing he was credited for in Milwaukee, which brought up a ton of young players at the same time under Yost.

I think with young players, you have to walk that line carefully. You want to be professionals and be able to accept bad calls as part of the game. But you also have to show them you have their backs.

Mr. Laz 04-22-2013 03:17 PM

Seitzer got fired because Hosmer and Moose weren't hitting. imo.


Well Seitzer is gone and they still aren't hitting so Seitzer got the shaft

Mr. Laz 04-22-2013 03:18 PM

in other news, we were like 1 pitch away from a 3 game series sweep of the Boston redsox.

so that's a happy thought

duncan_idaho 04-22-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9614672)
Seitzer got fired because Hosmer and Moose weren't hitting. imo.


Well Seitzer is gone and they still aren't hitting so Seitzer got the shaft

Don't forget "team leader" and "Great teammate" Jeff Francoeur complaining about him, too. And how Seitzer was holding him back.

That, and all the doubles he hit with Butler on 1B that Butler didn't score on...

BlackHelicopters 04-22-2013 05:34 PM

A winning April? Can it be possible? Dare we dream?

Prison Bitch 04-22-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 9614470)
Good Lord, you're a ****ing reerun.


Are you calling OPS statistics reeruned? What's reeruned about them? I don't see any reason to hate numbers. Numbers don't have biases. They don't have feelings. Do not hate them.

Prison Bitch 04-22-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9614481)
It IS important when you're trying to win 90 games in a season.

If you're an MLB GM and you send down a high-upside guy like Moose or Hosmer who is scuffling, you MUST have a viable replacement waiting in the wings.

I really don't follow your logic here. If it's imperative to win now, then you sacrifice development. Right? Isn't that how the game (hell, every game) has been played forever? Now if you want them to develop into everyday regulars then of course you play them through this.


Greinke said he wanted out of KC because we couldn't win so early in Moose & Hosmer's tenure. Said he, Gordon, and Butler all took time. Zack is stating a longstanding belief but I'm surprised you disagree with him.

Dartgod 04-22-2013 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9615040)
Are you calling OPS statistics reeruned? What's reeruned about them? I don't see any reason to hate numbers. Numbers don't have biases. They don't have feelings. Do not hate them.

Pitt Gorilla is wrong. You don't have a clue how ****ing stupid you are.

Prison Bitch 04-22-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9614614)
Your still talking as if we aren't trying to win this year. We won't win with his replacements, and we can't give him a couple months in Omaha. He's got to figure it out, and he's got to do it right now.

Again, you're missing my point. He and Hos need to go down for a while to get back on track. The alternative is burying them here. It's possible they'll both snap out of it but that's also possible if you send them down. Teams do it all the time with 95% of players having to spend some time down there again, it's not exactly a controversial theory here.

Prison Bitch 04-22-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 9615052)
Pitt Gorilla is wrong. You don't have a clue how ****ing stupid you are.

I can explain OPS to you if you need help.

Prison Bitch 04-22-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9614651)
Hey now, lighten up on Ross Gload!

For fun, I looked up Dougie Mientkeiwicz career numbers. Same OPS as Gload and Hosmer. Then I threw up in my mouth a little. Oh well maybe Eric will develop that grit that made those players such stars.

mr. tegu 04-22-2013 06:00 PM

Hey guys I think our infield defense would be better with Johnson at third and Tejada at first!

BlackHelicopters 04-22-2013 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9615073)
For fun, I looked up Dougie Mientkeiwicz career numbers. Same OPS as Gload and Hosmer. Then I threw up in my mouth a little. Oh well maybe Eric will develop that grit that made those players such stars.

This is nausea inducing.

Prison Bitch 04-22-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9615113)
This is nausea inducing.

What's worse: his slug% was a tidy .465 his first year at age 21. But in his last 650 PA has been........351. Yeah: .351 slug % for Hosmer over that long time frame. For an AL corner IF.


He's now simply a slap-hitting, ground ball dribbling, punch & judy hitter.

KevB 04-22-2013 06:19 PM

Napoli still on fire...2 for 2 tonight with a granny and 5 RBI's

alnorth 04-22-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9615060)
Again, you're missing my point. He and Hos need to go down for a while to get back on track. The alternative is burying them here. It's possible they'll both snap out of it but that's also possible if you send them down. Teams do it all the time with 95% of players having to spend some time down there again, it's not exactly a controversial theory here.

So be it. If they are damaged or ruined here, then they get buried.

On another note, I will say this about you: although you're catching a lot of grief and I disagree with what you are saying, you do stick to your point and you argue civilly for the most part.

Prison Bitch 04-22-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9615219)
So be it. If they are damaged or ruined here, then they get buried.

On another note, I will say this about you: although you're catching a lot of grief and I disagree with what you are saying, you do stick to your point and you argue civilly for the most part.

It's possible they've done all they can at AAA. At their young age though and given such short stints there I would lean against that

RedDread 04-22-2013 07:13 PM

The one issue I have with moving anyone around is how much of a defensive loss it is. It seems like when anyone of our everyday starters sits the replacement is responsible for at least 1 bad play, error and/or run for the games they start. If this team loses any position player for an extended period of time, I would really worry about the defense. Hosmer and Moose may not be able to hit but they are light-years above their replacements defensively. I'd say a .180 Moose is still better than a .250 Tejada.

alnorth 04-22-2013 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RedDread (Post 9615328)
The one issue I have with moving anyone around is how much of a defensive loss it is. It seems like when anyone of our everyday starters sits the replacement is responsible for at least 1 bad play, error and/or run for the games they start. If this team loses any position player for an extended period of time, I would really worry about the defense. Hosmer and Moose may not be able to hit but they are light-years above their replacements defensively. I'd say a .180 Moose is still better than a .250 Tejada.

To be fair, Moose has been incredibly awful, to the point where his defense doesn't matter. I simply believe its a 3-week anomaly, and he couldn't possibly be this bad. Whether he rebounds to being "not awful, but still kinda crappy", or "OK", or "finally, now thats what I'm talkin' about" remains to be seen.

In only 3 weeks, Moose already has -0.6 WAR. That is breathtakingly bad in that short a time, at least Hosmer has been about replacement level.

alnorth 04-22-2013 07:23 PM

I'm planning on starting the game thread tomorrow, just to test my "mojo". If I can follow a double header sweep with beating Scherzer, then I'll take on the tall task of Wednesday. If we lose tomorrow, then I'll leave the heavy burden of Mendoza vs Verlander to some other brave, foolhardy soul.

farmerchief 04-22-2013 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9615153)
What's worse: his slug% was a tidy .465 his first year at age 21. But in his last 650 PA has been........351. Yeah: .351 slug % for Hosmer over that long time frame. For an AL corner IF.


He's now simply a slap-hitting, ground ball dribbling, punch & judy hitter.

When Hos came up, the one thing I loved about him is he never got cheated on his swing, and was consistently hitting the ball Hard, maybe for an out, but he was blasting the ball! What happened to that guy? Did pitchers finally figure him out, and he cannot adjust, or is it truly bad coaching?

CoMoChief 04-22-2013 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by farmerchief (Post 9615353)
When Hos came up, the one thing I loved about him is he never got cheated on his swing, and was consistently hitting the ball Hard, maybe for an out, but he was blasting the ball! What happened to that guy? Did pitchers finally figure him out, and he cannot adjust, or is it truly bad coaching?

all 3

alnorth 04-22-2013 07:58 PM

heads-up to people who might buy tickets, don't just automatically go to stubhub. Yes, most of the time thats what I do and more than likely it'll be cheaper/better for good seats.

I just now bought tickets at a high-demand game. The stubhub prices seemed high so I checked with the Royals and found out that the stubhub sellers were being a little too greedy, at least for that game.

RedDread 04-22-2013 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9615351)
I'm planning on starting the game thread tomorrow, just to test my "mojo". If I can follow a double header sweep with beating Scherzer, then I'll take on the tall task of Wednesday. If we lose tomorrow, then I'll leave the heavy burden of Mendoza vs Verlander to some other brave, foolhardy soul.

I'll eat it if that happens but I'm predicting W - L - W this series.

Demonpenz 04-22-2013 08:24 PM

if anyone goes to that day game on thursday in may stub hub has great deals.

Shogun 04-22-2013 08:28 PM

I have no problem starting "The true mexicutioner" v Verlander game thread. My guy got this. 7IP 5 hits 2ER Im guaranteeing!

Raiderhater 04-22-2013 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedDread (Post 9615469)
I'll eat it if that happens but I'm predicting W - L - W this series.

That would not be a not so bad way to end an already pretty good road trip.

Hootie 04-22-2013 09:05 PM

Yuniesky Betancourt hit another bomb today.

His slugging % is higher than Moose's and Hosmer's combined.

AndChiefs 04-22-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9615641)
Yuniesky Betancourt hit another bomb today.

His slugging % is higher than Moose's and Hosmer's combined.

His defense is SO bad though.

Hootie 04-22-2013 09:13 PM

he's playing 1st now lol

maybe we should have had him there all along!!!

Saul Good 04-22-2013 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9614630)
+160 is the kind of spread that Miami and Houston get. I think we'll settle in around +130, at least for tomorrow.

I can see Wednesday getting an ugly spread.

I just realized that I had my dates wrong. I was referring to the Verlander/Mendoza matchup.

alnorth 04-22-2013 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9615685)
I just realized that I had my dates wrong. I was referring to the Verlander/Mendoza matchup.

yep, that'll be +150 or +160.

If we win on Wednesday, that'd be crazymaking.

KChiefs1 04-22-2013 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9615351)
I'm planning on starting the game thread tomorrow, just to test my "mojo". If I can follow a double header sweep with beating Scherzer, then I'll take on the tall task of Wednesday. If we lose tomorrow, then I'll leave the heavy burden of Mendoza vs Verlander to some other brave, foolhardy soul.

Keep the mojo going!

Shogun 04-22-2013 10:08 PM

http://deadspin.com/fan-makes-diving...ium=socialflow

KChiefs1 04-22-2013 10:20 PM

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles...-in-al-central

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Kansas City Royals: Starting Pitching Key to First Place Standing in AL Central
By Jeremy Sickel on April 22, 2013


What a difference one aggressive offseason has made for the Kansas City Royals—as they have built a starting rotation that is now seen as one of the team’s strengths, as opposed to being its perennial Achilles heel.

We all know by now how the Royals went about piecing together the likes of James Shields, Wade Davis, Ervin Santana and Jeremy Guthrie into the same rotation. The question, however, was whether or not Kansas City’s plan would actually work.

The Royals are currently 10-7 and sit atop the American League Central with a modest 1.5 games lead over the Detroit Tigers—the team widely considered the division’s best.

Kansas City’s bullpen has been shaky at times and the offense has yet to find its groove, but improved performance from its starting pitching has many supposing the team’s solid start to the season is no stroke of luck.

In 2012, the Royals pitching staff ranked 23rd in all of baseball with a 4.30 ERA and 27th with a 1.41 WHIP. They also tied for 18th in strikeouts with 1,177, but finished with the fifth-most walks allowed at 542.

So far in 2013, the numbers could not be more divergent—anchored by a starting rotation that is going much deeper into ball games, averaging close to 6.5 innings per start. Starters last year tallied an inning less per outing, something that caused the bullpen to tire out as the season progressed.

The Royals have baseball’s fifth-best ERA (3.31) and WHIP (1.17), while yielding the third-fewest walks (45) and recording the eighth-most strikeouts (147) in just 17 games. While it may not be expected that these trends continue, the hope is that the relievers start to settle into their roles and the bats start to come alive once the summer hits full stride.

It would be ideal for all three of these phases to eventually line up—and hopefully soon—but you will find no one in Kansas City grumbling about being in first place right now, in large part due to the efforts of the team's starting rotation.

KChiefs1 04-22-2013 10:29 PM

http://www.nj.com/phillies/index.ssf..._shape_ka.html


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Struggles have helped shape Kansas City Royals' Jeff Francoeur and Alex Gordon

Former top prospects Alex Gordon (left) and Jeff Francoeur (right) are veterans in the Kansas City Royal outfield. (Associated Press Photo)

By Bill Evans/South Jersey Times



Jeff Francoeur was on the cover of Sports Illustrated in 2005 at the age of 21, dubbed "The Natural" by the magazine after a torrid first six weeks to his major-league career.

Through his first 37 games with his hometown Atlanta Braves, the free-swinging, rocket-armed right fielder hit .360. He finished his rookie season with a .300 average, 14 home runs, 44 RBIs and an incredible 13 assists in just 67 games.

Alex Gordon was drafted No. 2 overall in 2005, a month before Francoeur's spectacular debut. He came to the Kansas City Royals' organization with a litany of college Player of the Year awards and expectations of developing into a franchise player.

It took him less than two years to make it to the major leagues.

Francoeur, still not yet 30, is now in his ninth major-league season - though in his third year with the Royals, his fourth major-league team. While it has taken some time, Gordon - also 29 - is developing into the star many observers felt he would become as he starts his seventh year in the majors.

"I've definitely had my ups and downs, injuries, a position change (from third base to the outfield), maybe not living up to people's expectations," said Gordon. "I learned just work your tail off and whatever happens at the end of the day you can't be disappointed. It's just the experience and knowing what you're capable of doing and what you want to do.

"I just didn't handle (the pressure) right, especially rookie year. But last year, I started off 0-for-23 and knew I'd come through it and I had a good year."

Gordon hit .247 as a rookie in 2007 and never rose above .260 his first four years - falling off to .215 in 2010, a second straight injury-filled season. But he blossomed in 2011, hitting .303 and has been on an upward path ever since.

After following up 2011 with a .294 average and league-leading 51 doubles in 2012, Gordon is hitting .350 this year.

"I credit (former hitting coach) Kevin Seitzer a lot," said Gordon. "I made the position change and knew I had to step up, and he was instrumental in changing my approach, changing my swing and my overall perspective coming to the plate."

While Gordon is now blossoming into a star with the team that drafted him, Francoeur has taken a different path.

While Francoeur's good friend and fellow Atlanta-area native Brian McCann - who arrived in the majors around the same time with less fanfare - has developed into a six-time all-star catcher, Francoeur couldn't sustain his early success and fell out of favor.

In 2009, he was traded to the New York Mets and a year later was shipped off to Texas to be an extra outfielder on the Rangers' World Series team.

He signed with Kansas City in 2011 and is in his third year with the team.

"There were times for me early in my career, I put a lot of pressure on myself and it didn't help," said Francoeur, a .266 career hitter with 138 home runs. "When I first got to Atlanta it was nice, with Andruw (Jones) and Chipper (Jones) and Edgar Renteria and (Adam) LaRoche. But as I got a little older and some of those guys left or got hurt, I was expected to do more, and I tried so hard and couldn't get it.

"If it was up to me, I'd have loved to play my whole career (in Atlanta). But seeing where I've been, the cool places I've gone and the way it's played out, its been great. When I'm done playing, I'll take my kids to thousands of Braves game, but to go to different places has been a fun road."

Francoeur - who is in the last year of his contract - feels he has found a home in Kansas City. He batted .285 in 2011 before dropping off to .235 last year and is hitting .260 this season.

"Last year (stunk), you can say it," admitted Francoeur. "For me, winning is contagious and hitting is contagious. Last year we were losing and I was lost mechanically and it was bad.

"I put it behind me and had a good spring. You know what, it would have been harder before, but now I've had good seasons, I've had bad seasons and come back and had good seasons. It's all about adjustments. ...Last year I couldn't make them. But I'm looking forward to winning, and it's fun playing like we have been.

"When I first signed here, my wife asked 'Where are we going?' but now she loves it. It's our favorite place we've been."

Kansas City is off to an 8-6 start after completely revamping its starting pitching in the offseason, bringing in veterans like James Shields and Ervin Santana. The lineup is still young - every regular is under 30 - but Gordon and Francoeur's early arrival to the majors qualifies them as veterans.

"They're tremendously talented players who had to go through ups and downs," said Kansas City manager Ned Yost. "It makes you a better player if you can go through adversity and battle through it. You learn the best lessons that way. They have a lot of experience to offer. It helps everybody on your team they went through that.

"I've only seen two players come up and never have major adversity and that was Ryan Braun and Chipper Jones. Every good young player who comes up struggles somewhere early, and these guys have figured it out and went on to be successful major-league players."

Even nine years into the league, Francoeur still feels he has a lot of room to grow.

"I feel I can still get better," said Francoeur. "Jayson Werth hit 29, 30 and figured some stuff out. If I'm patient and get my pitch, I'm a good hitter. Sometimes I get myself out and I'm trying to limit those at-bats where I'm not being patient. I want to try to grind out every at-bat, and if I do that I'll be good.

"Becoming more disciplined is something I've worked hard on, getting in good hitting position. That raw and free-swinging. ... I want to bring that down a little bit, wait for my pitch, hit it and drive it. When the ball's around the plate, I can hit it."

For Gordon and Francoeur, where they have been is important. But not as much as where they're going.

"Everything happens for a reason, I'm not looking back," said Gordon. "I'm happy with where I'm at right now."

KChiefs1 04-22-2013 10:46 PM

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles...s-to-each-game

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After an emotional weekend series in Boston, the Royals have a big week ahead them with two divisional series against the Detroit Tigers and the Cleveland Indians.

Last week, the Royals won a three-game series against the Red Sox 2-1 after sweeping a doubleheader on Sunday. They also split a two-game series in Atlanta that snapped the Braves' 11-game winning streak.

Now, the current top dog in the American League Central division has an opportunity to put padding onto its lead.

Here are the biggest keys to the five games the Royals have on their docket this week.


Previewing Kansas City Royals' Upcoming Week, Keys to Each Game

Tuesday, April 23: at Detroit
First Pitch: 7:05 p.m. ET

Projected Starters: Wade Davis (Royals, 2-0), Max Scherzer (Tigers, 1-0)



The Royals are 1.5 games ahead of the Tigers in the AL Central standings, so getting off to a good start in Game 1 will be critical for the Royals.

This three-game stop in Detroit is the last of an eight-game road trip that included two days off in Boston after the city was locked down on Friday.

After having six days off through their first 17 games, the Royals start a 13-day stretch without resting.

That has messed up the timing of some of the Royals, including designated hitter Billy Butler. Butler was shut down during the two-game tilt in Atlanta (an NL series with no DH) and is only hitting .216.

In Monday's game, Butler and the rest of the Royals lineup will face Scherzer, who leads the Tigers in strikeouts with 30. He also is maintaining a 2.84 ERA with only six earned runs given up in three appearances in 2013.

The Royals will have to be hot at the plate early to knock Scherzer out of his rhythm.

Davis, the Royals' projected starter and a new addition to the rotation, has been lights out in his first three starts. Davis is 2-0 in the early going with a 2.25 ERA, over 1.6 points below his career average.

However, he has given up two home runs in 2013, just three shy of his 2012 total when he appeared in 54 games.

The Tigers are full of power hitters including Prince Fielder, Miguel Cabrera and Alex Avila. Those three have all gone yard multiple times this season and have combined for nine homers.

Davis and the Royals' bullpen, which will certainly benefit from a day off after playing three games in two days at Boston, will have to limit the big-time plays that the Tigers batters are capable of making.



Wednesday, April 24: At Detroit
First Pitch: 7:08 p.m. ET

Projected Starters: Luis Mendoza (Royals, 0-1), Justin Verlander (Tigers, 2-2)



The Royals face an uphill battle on Wednesday with 2011 AL MVP and Cy Young Award winner Justin Verlander taking the mound for the Tigers.

And with the backside of the Royals' rotation in Luis Mendoza taking the hill, the Royals' bats will undoubtedly make or break the team's chances in the second game of the series.

Mendoza has struggled on the hill this season. He has a 6.17 ERA and has no wins in just two appearances.

The Royals even elected to skip Mendoza's scheduled start in the first game of the Boston series after having two straight days off. They instead went with their ace James Shields, who got a no-decision in a 4-3 loss to the Red Sox.

Mendoza has not taken the hill since April 12. Now he'll have to try and shut down some of the biggest bats in the American League in a crucial divisional series.

As for Verlander, despite losing two games, he has a 2.13 ERA and 29 strikeouts in his four starts.

Billy Butler has been pretty successful against Verlander over the course of his career. He has a .396 average against the Tigers ace and nine RBIs in 53 at-bats.

For a guy who is looking to get back into his usual groove, Butler has a big chance to do so against one of his favorite pitchers.

Center fielder Lorenzo Cain can also play a huge part against Verlander. He is having a terrific April with a .368 average in the month along with nine RBIs.

Butler, Cain and the rest of the lineup need a stellar showing on Wednesday to give Mendoza a chance.




Thursday, April 25: At Detroit
First Pitch: 1:05 p.m. ET

Projected Starters: James Shields (Royals, 1-2), Anibal Sanchez (Tigers, 2-1)



In what will likely become a hotly-contest pitching duel, James Shields and Anibal Sanchez will face off against one another in Thursday's conclusion of the series.

While Shields has only earned one win this year, his losses have come on days where the Royals offense failed to show up.

Against the Toronto Blue Jays, Shields threw a complete game and only gave up two hits. However, one of those was a two-run blast by Jose Bautista, and Shields lost the game 3-2.

His other loss came on Opening Day against the Chicago White Sox, when he only allowed one earned run over six innings. However, the Royals failed to score in the game, and Shields was credited with a 1-0 loss.

Nonetheless, Shields has a 3.00 ERA and 29 strikeouts in 2013, certainly great numbers.

Sanchez has also looked tremendous in the early part of the season for the Tigers. He's 2-1 in four starts with a terrific 1.75 ERA.

The second man in the Tigers rotation also has a history of shutting down the best bats the Royals have to offer.

Billy Butler, Alex Gordon and Eric Hosmer have all only combined for three hits in a combined 19 at-bats against Sanchez.

Jeff Francoeur has faced Sanchez the most out of anybody on the roster. He has a modest .276 average in 29 plate appearances against Sanchez.

So far in 2013, the Royals have failed to give Shields the proper run support he deserves. A potential rubber game in a big early divisional series against Detroit is the perfect time to fix that problem.




Friday, April 26: Vs. Cleveland
First Pitch: 8:10 p.m. ET

Projected Starters: Ervin Santana (Royals, 2-1), Scott Kazmir (Indians, 0-0)



After an emotionally-taxing, eight-game road trip, the Royals return home on Friday to kick off a four-game series against the Cleveland Indians. The four-game tilt is the beginning of a 10-game homestand for the Royals.

Taking the hill for the Royals in this game will likely be Ervin Santana, who has been remarkable in 2013. Santana leads the Royals with a 2.48 ERA and is 2-1 in four appearances.

The Royals also won a game against the Toronto Blue Jays 3-2, when Santana was given a no-decision despite only giving up one earned run over eight innings.

On the flip side for the Indians, Kazmir has had a rough go of it so far.

In his first and only start in 2013, Kazmir gave up six earned runs and seven hits over just 3.1 innings pitched on April 20 against the Houston Astros.

Now Kazmir will be tasked with shutting down the Royals, who have been effective at the plate as of late.

This game certainly seems to favor the Royals on paper. The Royals will have one of their best pitchers on the mound while the Indians will be sending a guy out there who is looking to recover from a disastrous first start.

Winning this first game will be big in a four-game series against a division rival.


Saturday, April 27: Vs. Cleveland
First Pitch: 7:10 p.m. ET

Projected Starters: Jeremy Guthrie (Royals, 2-0), Ubaldo Jimenez (Indians, 0-2)



In the final game of the week for the Royals, they'll face off for the second of a four-game series against the Cleveland Indians.

Jeremy Guthrie is set to take the mound for the Royals, and he has been consistent during the early parts of the season.

He is 2-0 in four starts with a respectable 3.86 ERA.

As for Ubaldo Jimenez, he has struggled out of the gate in 2013.

At 0-2 in three appearances, with an atrocious 11.25 ERA, the Royals will look to jump all over the one-time All-Star.

First baseman Eric Hosmer will be the player to watch at the plate against Jimenez. In just eight at-bats against the Indians' pitcher, Hosmer has five hits with two home runs.

Billy Butler and Jeff Francoeur have also homered against Jimenez in their careers.

Guthrie has been good, but not necessarily great in 2013. He's been the receiver of timely run support and a solid bullpen for the most part.

The Indians have been consistent at the plate this year with 21 home runs, tied for fourth-most in the American League.

This game will come down to hitting. If the Royals can force the Indians to go to their bullpen early, it will be a surefire sign that they'll win Saturday's game.

Archie F. Swin 04-23-2013 02:04 AM

Tonight's Forecast for Detroit:
Scattered showers and thunderstorms, then occasional showers and possibly a thunderstorm after 7pm. Low around 38. South southeast wind 7 to 17 mph, with gusts as high as 22 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible.

AussieChiefsFan 04-23-2013 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 9616137)
Tonight's Forecast for Detroit:
Scattered showers and thunderstorms, then occasional showers and possibly a thunderstorm after 7pm. Low around 38. South southeast wind 7 to 17 mph, with gusts as high as 22 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible.

I haven't watched enough baseball to know this. How easily to MLB games get postponed due to weather?

Archie F. Swin 04-23-2013 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9616139)
I haven't watched enough baseball to know this. How easily to MLB games get postponed due to weather?

Fairly easily if the field becomes saturated to where game play is effected or safety is an issue. Heavy snow can also be an issue.

Archie F. Swin 04-23-2013 02:41 AM

Thursday Forecast for Detroit:
Rain likely, possibly mixed with snow showers, mainly before 2pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 46. Breezy, with a south wind 10 to 18 mph becoming west in the afternoon. Winds could gust as high as 29 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible.

Deberg_1990 04-23-2013 06:27 AM

:facepalm:

Northern teams need domes to play in for April.

sedated 04-23-2013 07:43 AM

yay, more days off!!!

Strongside 04-23-2013 08:24 AM

Posted this in the game thread. It belongs here, too...

Peter Gammons ‏@pgammo 4h
Red Sox players' description of Salvador Perez:"The Beast." Majority opinion:no AL catcher with better hands or arm. Star.

alnorth 04-23-2013 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9616139)
I haven't watched enough baseball to know this. How easily to MLB games get postponed due to weather?

If there's a chance to go 5 innings, they will push it, but if there's cloud to ground lightning, they are going to shut it down. Also if its a torrential downpour.

AussieChiefsFan 04-23-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9616408)
If there's a chance to go 5 innings, they will push it, but if there's cloud to ground lightning, they are going to shut it down. Also if its a torrential downpour.

When night games like this one get postponed, do they usually try and play them later that night, or just play them as a double header on the following days?

alnorth 04-23-2013 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9616413)
When night games like this one get postponed, do they usually try and play them later that night, or just play them as a double header on the following days?

Since this is the first game in the series and we'll be back to Detroit several times, I don't think they'll go crazy with sticking around past 1am and trying to get it in. Once they have the rain delay, unless the radar shows it'll be very quick, I bet they'll postpone to a later date.

AussieChiefsFan 04-23-2013 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9616430)
Since this is the first game in the series and we'll be back to Detroit several times, I don't think they'll go crazy with sticking around past 1am and trying to get it in. Once they have the rain delay, unless the radar shows it'll be very quick, I bet they'll postpone to a later date.

Thanks for the replies to my n00b questions. Hopefully it doesn't get rained out.

Cephalic Trauma 04-23-2013 02:38 PM

What are the chances Will Smith takes the 5th spot from Mendoza? Good era, good K/9. Thoughts?

alnorth 04-23-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9617530)
What are the chances Will Smith takes the 5th spot from Mendoza? Good era, good K/9. Thoughts?

Since he got sent back down to the minors, zero. At least this week.

mr. tegu 04-23-2013 02:56 PM

I think Mendoza has proven plenty that he deserves to be our fifth starter. His good games are really good but his bad games are never really that terrible.

Cephalic Trauma 04-23-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9617568)
Since he got sent back down to the minors, zero. At least this week.

I figured as much. Sorry, I didn't specify a timeframe, but I was thinking along the lines of the next month.

KChiefs1 04-23-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9617530)
What are the chances Will Smith takes the 5th spot from Mendoza? Good era, good K/9. Thoughts?

I think Mendoza needs a few more starts before giving up on him.

chiefqueen 04-23-2013 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9616413)
When night games like this one get postponed, do they usually try and play them later that night, or just play them as a double header on the following days?

If I'm Detroit I think I would push the DH to Aug. and hope the Royal's bullpen is more taxed than it is now (of course the Tiger's pen may be taxed then too). But IMO the Royals' bullpen is rested enough to withstand another DH this week if it had to whereas the Tigers pen went through a blowout loss and a 13 inning game this past weekend in Anaheim.

alnorth 04-23-2013 05:19 PM

Take it with a grain of salt, but the Royals think they know what is wrong with Moose. He's drifting forward too early and too much when he steps into his swing, which results in weak popups.

He took extensive batting practice today to learn how to stay back.

Shogun 04-23-2013 05:20 PM

Bring on another DH. We will take that too.

Three7s 04-23-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9618171)
Take it with a grain of salt, but the Royals think they know what is wrong with Moose. He's drifting forward too early and too much when he steps into his swing, which results in weak popups.

He took extensive batting practice today to learn how to stay back.

So, he's lunging at the ball, similar to what Hosmer was doing.

KChiefs1 04-23-2013 05:25 PM

I'm home on Thursday...lets play two!

Shogun 04-23-2013 05:51 PM

@goldbergkc 1m

#Royals announce Wade Davis will pitch tomorrow & James Shields will go Thursday. Luis Mendoza will be skipped in this series

Al Bundy 04-23-2013 06:27 PM

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 4m

The Kansas City Royals drafted both John Elway & Dan Marino in the 1979 MLB Draft. #ElwaytoMarino

Captain Obvious 04-23-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 9618304)
@goldbergkc 1m

#Royals announce Wade Davis will pitch tomorrow & James Shields will go Thursday. Luis Mendoza will be skipped in this series

I'm not sure I like this. At some point you have to give Mendoza some work.

Strongside 04-23-2013 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 9618420)
ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 4m

The Kansas City Royals drafted both John Elway & Dan Marino in the 1979 MLB Draft. #ElwaytoMarino

Well, that explains things.

Strongside 04-23-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious (Post 9618510)
I'm not sure I like this. At some point you have to give Mendoza some work.

Yeah, but I'd rather see him out there against a struggling team like the Indians than the one team that we need to beat to win the division.

Demonpenz 04-23-2013 08:03 PM

Moose's swing looks simple not the loopy shit Hosmer has.

KChiefs1 04-23-2013 08:30 PM

The game on Thursday isn't televised?????

stonedstooge 04-23-2013 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 9618902)
The game on Thursday isn't televised?????

shit

Reaper16 04-23-2013 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 9618420)
ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 4m

The Kansas City Royals drafted both John Elway & Dan Marino in the 1979 MLB Draft. #ElwaytoMarino

something something "even the Royals know you need to draft a first round QB" joke something something

Chiefspants 04-24-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9618944)
something something "even the Royals know you need to draft a first round QB" joke something something

Looks like teh Royals r better at draftin QBs than th chefs!


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