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BigCatDaddy 02-28-2014 09:28 AM

Belfort out and Machida in. From an exciting fight to a Machida snooze fest.

Sfeihc 02-28-2014 09:31 AM

Enter the Dragon!

Jerm 02-28-2014 09:41 AM

Jacare should've got that fight but whatever...

Glad TRT is done...Vitor might as well retire now...

alnorth 03-01-2014 11:48 AM

I actually woke up early this morning to see the main event from Hong Kong. We have an early Knockout of the Year candidate with one of the coolest KO's I've ever seen, dude was out before he hit the ground.

http://cdn.fansided.com/gif/John_Hat...n_Kim_ktfo.gif

alnorth 03-14-2014 07:52 AM

Anyone else looking forward to UFC 171 tomorrow? Holy crap, that card looks stacked. Hendricks vs Lawler, Condit vs Woodley, and Diego Sanchez? That may be one of the best-looking UFC PPV in a while.

WhawhaWhat 03-14-2014 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10489711)
Anyone else looking forward to UFC 171 tomorrow? Holy crap, that card looks stacked. Hendricks vs Lawler, Condit vs Woodley, and Diego Sanchez? That may be one of the best-looking UFC PPV in a while.

Hoping Woodley can KO Condit. Hendricks vs Lawler should be KO city as well.

frankotank 03-14-2014 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10489748)
Hoping Woodley can KO Condit. Hendricks vs Lawler should be KO city as well.

yeah I'm hoping I get home in time to see it!

$3.50 on xmeforums.com :D

BigCatDaddy 03-14-2014 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10489748)
Hoping Woodley can KO Condit. Hendricks vs Lawler should be KO city as well.

Woodley isn't knocking Condit out, sorry. He's a brawler fighting a true martial artist with a solid chin. I see no other way Hendricks/Lawler ends other than a KO, but I think it's pretty likely Lawler is flat on his back at the end although I'm pulling for him.

SAUTO 03-14-2014 11:48 AM

Hendricks/ lawler should be worth the price of admission by itself

raybec 4 03-14-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10490158)
Woodley isn't knocking Condit out, sorry. He's a brawler fighting a true martial artist with a solid chin. I see no other way Hendricks/Lawler ends other than a KO, but I think it's pretty likely Lawler is flat on his back at the end although I'm pulling for him.

IMO the only way Woodley wins is if he can hold Condit down, which I doubt. Condit is a beast on his feet and obn the ground. He does throw a ton of kicks though which could leave him open for a takedown.

WhawhaWhat 03-14-2014 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10490158)
Woodley isn't knocking Condit out, sorry.

I said it was hope. Don't ruin my dreams!

alnorth 03-14-2014 05:17 PM

Whew, that was close, Hendricks needed two attempts to make weight. That would have been a disaster.

edit: correction: three attempts

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alnorth 03-14-2014 05:29 PM

In case anyone is wondering, if Hendricks would not have made weight, they probably would have fought anyway, but Hendricks would have lost a lot of money to Lawler, and he would not have been title-eligible. Lawler would have won the belt if he beat Hendricks, or the title would have remained vacant if he lost.

2 other fighters in the prelims failed to make weight initially, but only one of them was unable to make it in the extra 2 hours allotted. Renee Forte lost 20% of his appearance fee to his opponent, and won't be eligible for any bonuses.

alnorth 03-14-2014 05:57 PM

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@arielhelwani 4m
According to Gastelum's mgr Shane Baldwin, Gastelum took a "miracle" #2 with 5 minutes to spare to hit 170 lbs. Enjoy your dinner, friends!
ROFL

Gastelum was the prelim fighter who made weight on his 2nd try.

frankotank 03-15-2014 09:00 PM

anybody watching this?
damn if ole Jake didn't damn near pull a rabbit out his hat!

Jerm 03-15-2014 09:02 PM

Yup and damn Jake Shields nearly put me to sleep...

Jerm 03-15-2014 09:09 PM

Myles Jury is such a tool....

frankotank 03-15-2014 09:21 PM

looks like jurys got it

alnorth 03-15-2014 09:51 PM

Lombard should never get a title shot until he really goes for it. That dude is a point-fighter doing only enough to win a round, then lays on his opponent taking no extra risks.

Jerm 03-15-2014 09:51 PM

T-WOOD!!!

alnorth 03-15-2014 09:53 PM

They keep saying over and over again that the title will change hands for the first time in 6 years. I'm starting to think they might be jinxing it, watch this end in a no contest.

Jerm 03-15-2014 09:54 PM

BTW Mike Goldberg is the most annoying and idiotic announcer in any sport, any where...Christ I wish the UFC would put him out to pasture.

BigCatDaddy 03-15-2014 09:59 PM

These flukish injuries during these main or co-main events suck. I'd rather have a controversial decision than that shit.

BigCatDaddy 03-15-2014 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10494228)
BTW Mike Goldberg is the most annoying and idiotic announcer in any sport, any where...Christ I wish the UFC would put him out to pasture.

He'd be great in the WWE.

alnorth 03-15-2014 10:10 PM

Very close 1st round. Probably 10-9 Hendricks.

Jerm 03-15-2014 10:36 PM

Another bullshit takedown will win a big fight....so sick of that shit.

alnorth 03-15-2014 10:42 PM

That may have been one of the least-controversial and easy 5-round decisions to score I've seen in a while. Hendricks obviously won 2 rounds, Lawler obviously won 2 rounds, and Hendricks probably won the first. Judges all saw it the same way.

alnorth 03-15-2014 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10494334)
Another bullshit takedown will win a big fight....so sick of that shit.

nah, Hendricks did wrestle out the clock with a minute left when he knew he was ahead, but he legitimately knocked Lawler around in the 5th before that and won the round in the first 4 minutes.

Jerm 03-15-2014 10:48 PM

...and Lawler knocked him around for the first couple of minutes.

I'm not claiming robbery or anything but they made the TD out on the commentary to be the biggest thing ever. They were both pushing Hendricks hard throughout the fight so it's not surprising.

Can't believe Rogan thinks Rory deserves the next title shot AND they had a video package of him ready to go...yeah seems legit LOL.

BigCatDaddy 03-15-2014 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10494385)
...and Lawler knocked him around for the first couple of minutes.

I'm not claiming robbery or anything but they made the TD out on the commentary to be the biggest thing ever. They were both pushing Hendricks hard throughout the fight so it's not surprising.

Can't believe Rogan thinks Rory deserves the next title shot AND they had a video package of him ready to go...yeah seems legit LOL.

Who do you think deserves a shot? I thought his reasoning made sense.

# 2 Condit blew out a knee

# 3 Lawler lost and # 6 Shields lost. That leaves McDonald and Ellenberger and McDonald recently beat Ellenberger. It's a no brainier.

Mecca 03-15-2014 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10494385)
...and Lawler knocked him around for the first couple of minutes.

I'm not claiming robbery or anything but they made the TD out on the commentary to be the biggest thing ever. They were both pushing Hendricks hard throughout the fight so it's not surprising.

Can't believe Rogan thinks Rory deserves the next title shot AND they had a video package of him ready to go...yeah seems legit LOL.

Hendricks was winning that fight if it was close all the way. It's in Dallas and they've been hyping the shit out of him.
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Jerm 03-15-2014 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10494393)
Who do you think deserves a shot? I thought his reasoning made sense.

Rematch or Woodley...

Jerm 03-15-2014 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 10494404)
Hendricks was winning that fight if it was close all the way. It's in Dallas and they've been hyping the shit out of him.
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Agreed...the commentary was borderline embarrassing.

Mecca 03-15-2014 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10494419)
Agreed...the commentary was borderline embarrassing.

UFC announcing isn't much different than WWE announcing,hype the guys the company pushes no matter what,sell some storylines.
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BigCatDaddy 03-15-2014 11:00 PM

What the hell happened to Lawler anyways? He was pretty much a washed up name a few years ago.

Jerm 03-15-2014 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10494436)
What the hell happened to Lawler anyways? He was pretty much a washed up name a few years ago.

Got humbled, actually started to give a shit, worked on his all around game, and grinded back to Strikeforce and eventually the UFC.

BigCatDaddy 03-15-2014 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10494416)
Rematch or Woodley...

You don't give a rematch there and Woodley hasn't done shit. You don't go from outside the top 10 to A title shot because a guy you fought tore an ACL

Jerm 03-15-2014 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10494440)
You don't give a rematch there and Woodley hasn't done shit.

....and MacDonald beat Maia so.....

I'd give Stun Gun a shot before him.

Jerm 03-15-2014 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 10494428)
UFC announcing isn't much different than WWE announcing,hype the guys the company pushes no matter what,sell some storylines.
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Pretty much...thought it was hilarious that a Rory MacDonald highlight package was ready to go when Rogan "spontaneously" gave his answer.

BigCatDaddy 03-15-2014 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10494450)
Pretty much...thought it was hilarious that a Rory MacDonald highlight package was ready to go when Rogan "spontaneously" gave his answer.

I'm sure they had Condit penciled in before the injury.

alnorth 03-15-2014 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10494448)
....and MacDonald beat Maia so.....

I'd give Stun Gun a shot before him.

Yeah, Kim is the only one aside from MacDonald that might make any sense.

Jerm 03-15-2014 11:08 PM

How does MacDonald make sense?

Guess I'm missing something...

alnorth 03-15-2014 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10494472)
How does MacDonald make sense?

Guess I'm missing something...

by default. It's not like he's an obvious choice, but I don't really see anyone else other than Kim. I don't think Lawler gets a rematch, he'll probably need to beat someone else.

alnorth 03-15-2014 11:17 PM

bizarre twist to the scoring: one of the judges had round 2 10-8 for Hendricks, and had the 5th round 10-10. Well, it still added up to the correct answer, I guess.

Jerm 03-15-2014 11:20 PM

That's crazy lol...idiot judges...

alnorth 03-15-2014 11:23 PM

hah, they actually did give performance of the night to OSP. He called it during his interview with Rogan. He probably deserves it for laying down some MMA 101 on all of us with that very rare Von Flue choke.

raybec 4 03-26-2014 10:52 AM

Hendo is a beast, but he probably can't sustain his style of I'll take two of yours to deliver one of mine any longer. His body is going to betray him soon.

raybec 4 04-08-2014 10:19 AM

The UFC released Jake Shields, kind of premature IMO. I know his fight with Lombard was a stinker but Dana seems to want to distance himself from the scrap pack as a whole.

WhawhaWhat 04-08-2014 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10548060)
The UFC released Jake Shields, kind of premature IMO. I know his fight with Lombard was a stinker but Dana seems to want to distance himself from the scrap pack as a whole.

and Jake Shields fights are boring as shit. Hard to sell boring fights.

raybec 4 04-10-2014 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10548070)
and Jake Shields fights are boring as shit. Hard to sell boring fights.

I disagree, but I don't need to see a KO to be entertained. I enjoy watching the grappling battles, the scrambles and the strategy. Most casual fans don't. That's why Dana wouldn't sign Ben Askren. There are a lot of guys with the same type of style though, GSP had become a fight not to lose fighter before his retirement.

TimBone 04-11-2014 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10553889)
I disagree, but I don't need to see a KO to be entertained. I enjoy watching the grappling battles, the scrambles and the strategy. Most casual fans don't. That's why Dana wouldn't sign Ben Askren. There are a lot of guys with the same type of style though, GSP had become a fight not to lose fighter before his retirement.

meh...you can enjoy the technical aspects of MMA and still find Jake Shields completely boring.

raybec 4 04-11-2014 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Flybone McTimmerson (Post 10555142)
meh...you can enjoy the technical aspects of MMA and still find Jake Shields completely boring.

Jake Shields is a terrible striker but he's one of the most technically sound grapplers at 170 or 185. That's not fun for most people to watch, I get that.

TimBone 04-11-2014 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10555624)
Jake Shields is a terrible striker but he's one of the most technically sound grapplers at 170 or 185. That's not fun for most people to watch, I get that.

He definitely is...I agree with that. But he's not always aggressive with his grappling. Sometimes he doesn't even make an attempt to pass. No attempt to work his way to full mount and finish a fight. Lots of times he's content to use his grappling to maintain position on a guy and ride out a round. No fun in that. It's not a wrestling match, it's MMA. Your supposed to use your discipline to work towards a finish.

Easy 6 04-11-2014 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10494439)
Got humbled, actually started to give a shit, worked on his all around game, and grinded back to Strikeforce and eventually the UFC.

Yep, and that's what makes him so dangerous, he's had to be humbled then come back up the hard way... he knows the riddle of the steel.

That's why he was able to give Hendricks all he could handle in his first big UFC fight in ages, always loved that guys style, he goes for the dynamic strike every chance he gets... he's anything but boring.

alnorth 04-12-2014 12:16 AM

UFC 175 on July 5th really looks stacked. Weidman vs Machida at middleweight, Rousey vs Alexis Davis, and Wanderlei Silva vs Chael Sonnen

RobBlake 04-12-2014 01:33 AM

i don't watch much ufc, but i find it kind've cool that a former ufc fighter goes to my gym some times.. i don't think he was anyone big, but still cool.

Sorter 04-12-2014 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RobBlake (Post 10557308)
i don't watch much ufc, but i find it kind've cool that a former ufc fighter goes to my gym some times.. i don't think he was anyone big, but still cool.

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...ED-388x500.jpg

Easy 6 04-12-2014 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 10557391)

LMAO

alnorth 04-19-2014 05:48 PM

Tonight's main card is pretty good for a free network event. Heavyweight title eliminator tonight.

raybec 4 04-20-2014 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10573733)
Tonight's main card is pretty good for a free network event. Heavyweight title eliminator tonight.

I was surprised by Browne getting absolutely dominated on their feet. Werdum looked better than he ever has. He still won't beat Cain though, not even on his best day

Pants 04-20-2014 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10574278)
I was surprised by Browne getting absolutely dominated on their feet. Werdum looked better than he ever has. He still won't beat Cain though, not even on his best day

Yeah, Werdum looked crisper than a mother****er.

Sorter 04-20-2014 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10574278)
I was surprised by Browne getting absolutely dominated on their feet. Werdum looked better than he ever has. He still won't beat Cain though, not even on his best day

I didn't get to watch the fight but Fabricio has been working quite hard on improving on his feet.

raybec 4 04-20-2014 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 10574296)
I didn't get to watch the fight but Fabricio has been working quite hard on improving on his feet.

It showed, he took Browne to school and gave him a real beatdown

raybec 4 04-23-2014 01:30 PM

DC Hendo just made official for UFC 173 in May. That's going to be a sick fight. I think DC wins a decision.

raybec 4 04-24-2014 07:04 AM

Anybody else excited for Bones v Texiera? I think Glover gives him a pretty damn good scrap.

ArrowheadHawk 04-25-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10582125)
Anybody else excited for Bones v Texiera? I think Glover gives him a pretty damn good scrap.

Should be fun.

BigCatDaddy 04-25-2014 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10582125)
Anybody else excited for Bones v Texiera? I think Glover gives him a pretty damn good scrap.

I'm excited for the fight, but I think Jones is too big for Glover. He won't pose the same problems Gustaf did.

Sorter 04-25-2014 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10582125)
Anybody else excited for Bones v Texiera? I think Glover gives him a pretty damn good scrap.

Glover isn't as technical Jones.


However, he's got some ridiculous power and Jon doesn't have fantastic head movement. If Glover wins, it's a stoppage.

alnorth 04-26-2014 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10585482)
I'm excited for the fight

Me too. The rest of the card looks a little meh, so if the main event weren't incredible I'd probably skip this one, but Jones and Teixeira is just too good to miss, so I'll just have to pony up and hope that its more than just 1 good fight.

alnorth 04-26-2014 08:07 PM

Calling it now: Bones by submission in 3

TheNoob 04-26-2014 10:44 PM

Jones Destroyed Glover at his own game

BigCatDaddy 04-26-2014 11:01 PM

I'd like to see Rumble vs Gustaf for the next shot at Jones.

kcxiv 04-26-2014 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10587443)
Me too. The rest of the card looks a little meh, so if the main event weren't incredible I'd probably skip this one, but Jones and Teixeira is just too good to miss, so I'll just have to pony up and hope that its more than just 1 good fight.

Davis/Johnson fight was probably more fun to watch,it just needed to go 5 rounds. ALL MMA PPV fights need to be 5 rounds.

alnorth 04-26-2014 11:36 PM

According to Dana, Gustafsson will get a rematch and will be the next to challenge Jones.

alnorth 04-26-2014 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 10588057)
Davis/Johnson fight was probably more fun to watch,it just needed to go 5 rounds. ALL MMA PPV fights need to be 5 rounds.

The co-main sort of helped make the card worth it. We have learned something very interesting tonight: Rumble is now a serious threat.

Stanley Nickels 04-26-2014 11:39 PM

Jones's hands-to-the-face move is the MMA equivalent of the pick play the Broncos constantly run: it's illegal, but it's not his responsibility to monitor it, it's the referee's. That's why I think Gustafsson is able to hang with Jones, and why the smaller, beefier dudes can never seem to pull close. I think Texiera was faking a few of those eye pokes to try to force the referee to enforce it, but it only worked for the first round or two.

BigCatDaddy 04-27-2014 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 10588069)
Jones's hands-to-the-face move is the MMA equivalent of the pick play the Broncos constantly run: it's illegal, but it's not his responsibility to monitor it, it's the referee's. That's why I think Gustafsson is able to hang with Jones, and why the smaller, beefier dudes can never seem to pull close. I think Texiera was faking a few of those eye pokes to try to force the referee to enforce it, but it only worked for the first round or two.

What is illegal? Sticking his fingers in his eyes is illegal and he was warned both times, but I don't believe it's illegal to put your hand on someone's head to keep the distance.

BigCatDaddy 04-27-2014 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10588063)
According to Dana, Gustafsson will get a rematch and will be the next to challenge Jones.

Makes sense.

Rumble should get the Cormier/Hendo winner for a shot at the Gustaf/Bones winner.

alnorth 04-27-2014 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10588213)
What is illegal? Sticking his fingers in his eyes is illegal and he was warned both times, but I don't believe it's illegal to put your hand on someone's head to keep the distance.

The criticism is that when he keeps his hands out there with fingers splayed wide open like that, its a strong disincentive for the other fighter to rush in for a punch because he'll run his eye into those fingers.

If you don't have a reason to have your hands wide open like that (like you are grappling or trying to grab the other fighter), then you are supposed to keep your hand at least mostly closed, but its not his responsibility to enforce that.

raybec 4 04-28-2014 12:27 PM

I really enjoyed that whole card, Jim Miller is a beast, Luke Rockhhold is going to blast Vitor if Vitor can work out his drug test issues and Rumble was just a freaking monster.


On another note WTF is Andrei Arlovski even doing back in the UFC? He is past it and needs to hang em up


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