This is sort of an odd take from TigerBoard. I posted it because I never really thought of this from the perspective of the P10 and B10 staring eachother down.

If I am to understand this all, Big 10 stirs up this big mess, does background on viability of numerous teams (rumored to be approx 11), throws a 12-18 month timeline, then, because the PAC 10 decides they are not going to sit by and watch Big 10 get everything they want, the Big 10 abandons their whole plan and time line to take one team? And not even their first choice. Then sit back and watch the PAC 10 vault from the 4th best conference to maybe the best, or at least 1A with SEC? All this was done because they want to enhance the value and payoff of the Rose Bowl? Big tough Jim Delaney is going to be completely out done by the new upstart from the PAC 10? WOW, he maybe a liar but certainly isn't as tough of a competitor as he has been made out to be. The PAC 10 is making Delaney look like a chump.

It's easy for Hawkeye fans to lose perspective. We're entering this season with the highest expectations I can remember for a team. That tends to throw off the "big picture" that these realignments are geared towards.

It will give us an instant rivalry, the likes of which we haven't seen since the heyday of the Big 8.

Somebody drank a big cup of bitterman.

Who just Iowa? I could see Ohio State and Michigan too.

High expecations do not usually turn out well for us and it has already started. First a reeruned RB getting arrested in the bar, next who knows what?

I have always liked Nebraska, admired their football and their fans. You'll need to ease your way into the new conference and continue your rise back up to prominence and NU will eventually be a solid rival within the B10.
But it will take a little time for things to develop.

Absolutely Iowa. There's already a shit ton of tension between the fan bases up here, especially with the Hawkeye fans in western IA. They are all bitter that the Omaha media hardly covers them, they're always calling in to local radio shows bitching about how much better they are and that they should get more love. Then Husker fans start smacking them around and then it's on. It's a bitter rivalry that's just looking for a place to happen.

Super Conferences Gone Wild

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Yeah, what doesn't add up to me is the idea that the a newly-minted Pac-16 wouldn't cause other conferences to expand. A 4-team difference between Pac-16 and a 12-team Big 10 is substantial.

Mega East would Mega blow at Football, but the basketball would be off the freaking Charts!

I just have to think that if there is any validity to the Pac 10 expansion, the Big 10 would be taking more than Nebraska.

This is just the start.


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Who knows...I mean Missouri still hasn't said shit and their curators meeting is tomorrow.

Hey, we may well have gotten the cold shoulder but IMO Nebraska alone is a surprise to me, and would be a surprise. And thats not a knock on Nebraska.

To what? Iowa has been routinely better than Nebraska in the last 10 years. I don't know how there is any other way around it. Nebraska plays in the BIG 12 fuckING NORTH, a joke of a football conference.

Not enough to ya know...

Beat them?

It's a complete surprise to me as well, I thought Mizzou leaving was a foregone conclusion, and NU was the longshot.

Agreed. Maybe the other team will be to the east. Or teams. I have a thing with symmetry and hope it's an even number of teams either way.

Pittsburgh, Syracuse, and Rutgers have been mentioned before. Along with Notre Dame of course. Rutgers and Syracuse get you into the New York/New Jersey market.

Because as a pair...what they both brought to the table was a pretty interesting add.

I am still going back to how interesting it has been that the University of Missouri has been so absolutely tight lipped during this process.

Leaks coming out of Texas and Nebraska...all these beans got spilled. Maybe there is some factor not allowing Missouri to get the green light that is getting worked out. There are so many variables.

Again, like I have said...they may have gotten the cold shoulder but...too much of this just seems odd. The way in which it has been presented.

FFS, go with the last five years and you have a point, but it still means diddly as far as any future matchups between the two teams. You are aware that Bill Callahan isn't coaching the team anymore?

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Nebraska Vs Iowa (26-12-2)


Last two times Iowa and Nebraska have played W 42-7 and W 42-13


STFU

It makes you wonder if its just that Nebraska was leaked first and they couldn't contain it. And Tom was just like...you know what? **** it. I am too old for this shit. YES WE ARE GOING TO THE BIG 10 GET OFF MY ****ING LAWN. ROFL

and end up with and odd number again ... not likely

that might be MU's chance to get back into the mix


don't forget that ND might still screw Nebraska out of this in the 11th hour.

This Iowa vs. Nebraska thing is already awesome.

11th hour my ass. This conference expansion fiasco is far, far from being over.

Wait, make that the last TWO years BWillie LMAO

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yep

BUT BUT they beat Indiana.

agree ... but i believe the Big 10 would start and stop with adding Notre Dame for right now.

You can bet your ass that the Big 10 is going to Notre Dame again one last time and asking them if they want to be the 12th team for the Big 10. They would kick Nebraska to the curb as fast as a columbia trailer park.

that might also delay conference-geddon.

Notre Dame takes Nebraska's spot in the big 10

Texas sees it's gay lover Nebraska still in the Big12, so it stays ... which keeps all it's little texas whores (OU,A&M,TT,Baylor) in the Big 12 too.

Pac-10 doesn't get it's Texas trophy so they keep looking.

Big east doesn't lose anyone but ND so they just fill-in and move on

Da Nile isn't just a river in Egypt.

Iowa has won two conference championships in the last ten years. 02 and 04. Probably would have won one last yr if their QB didn't get crunched in the endzone of the N'Western game.

Nebraska, zero.

I don't think movement with the Big 10 is done but I would be shocked...absolutely shocked if Nebraska's invite was taken off the table.

Not gonna happen.

My thinking as well.

They'd be looking to get to at least 14, IMO.

Sportscenter: "MU likely to follow" Jesus Christ

bullshit, momma's boy.

IF ... big IF ... but if Notre Dame does decide to join a conference then what i described is most likely what is going to happen.

the only long shot in my scenario is whether Notre Dame joins a conference.

Here's the year by year comparisons of NU and Iowa over the last 10 years.

2000 Iowa 3-9, NU 10-2 NU

2001 Iowa 7-5, NU 11-2 NU

2002 Iowa 11-2, NU 7-7 IA

2003 Iowa 10-3, NU 10-3 PUSH

2004 Iowa 10-2, NU 5-6 IA

2005 Iowa 7-5, NU 8-4 NU

2006 Iowa 6-7, NU 9-5 NU

2007 Iowa 6-6, NU 5-7 IA

2008 Iowa 9-4, NU 9-4 PUSH

2009 Iowa 11-2 NU 10-4 IA

Iowa had a better record 4 of the years, NU had a better record 4 of the years, and two years they had the same record. But Iowa is SOOOOOO much better. :rolleyes:

You did not just say that.

Very well, but those were both shared titles, and if we're playing hypotheticals NU would've won one last year if the corrupt Big XII officials hadn't put a second back on the clock for Texas.

You are wasting your time typing.

Think the only chance is if the Big 10 goes to UND tomorrow and say "ok, last chance, come now then we're done and you'll get a 1/12th split. Later, who knows" and the Irish stun everyone by saying ok. Highly doubtful.

Billay. I said ten years. 1999 is not ten years. Count w/ me.

2000 (1)
2001 (2)
2002 (3)
2003 (4)
etc etc
2010 (11)

You get the idea. I'm not saying Iowa's program is more storied than Nebraska's is...but if Kansas went on to not win the conference title for the next 11 years I really wouldn't be proclaiming how awesome they are. Nebraska has work to do to get back to the prominence they were at. We'll see if they can do it w/ the competition the Big 10 brings.

Both Iowa and NU have fine programs. NU has a past that includes some of the greatest football teams in history.
Iowa has a proud tradition of sports that extend beyond football. Iowa has academics to which NU may someday aspire.
Both campuses are in extremely nice, livable cities.
NU will be a welcome addition to the B10. In my experience NU fanbase is midwest class like Iowa's.

When is Chip Brown opening up Al Capone's vault?

I pulled this from another board so I don't know if it is 100% accurate but It may be good news for Kansas.

Under the Big 10's format, NU would've won the conference title in '01. And conversely, who knows how many Iowa would have if the Big 10 had a title game. It's a silly comparison.

If MU wasn't getting invited wouldn't Alden, Deaton, etc. be playing major damage control right now? Herding senators around, putting a good face on it.

There's a difference between an incredulous college basketball reporter relaying comments about how people "cant imagine" KU would be left out, and "they will probably land in a power conference", and that actually happening. It's easy for some random AD from Big 10 to say "Kansas? Hell, thats such a great basketball school, I'm sure they will land on their feet." Ask him "well, why don't you start lobbying your colleagues to invite them?" and you'll probably get a bunch of looking away and excuses about how it wont work for their particular conference.

Much like many other schools, Iowa has the edge on everything once you get outside of football, I have no problem admitting that. But as far as football goes, Iowa fans around here have this weird inferiority complex when it comes to NU. They're always crowing about how much better they are, when in reality, they're pretty much the same. It's probably not like that outside of Omaha, but with us being right on the border the fans are constantly clashing. It's going to be crazy once they start playing every year (assuming this happens).

nothing official yet, right?
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From Tigerboard:

WFNI out of indy is reporting that Notre Dame, Rutgers, Syracuse, and Maryland will also join the Big 10.

From a Kansas fan on Tigerboard. Is there another link on that?

LMAO

WKRB is reporting that it's going to be Xavier, Rutgers, Pitt, and Dayton.

Afraid not. I am just doing my part passing out the (mis)information.

WNFA reports that people will cut and paste anything.

KSPR reports that I agree.

There's nothing on their website regarding that.

the source of that is apparently the "Petros and Money Show" on an LA radio station and on XM. Where did they get that? No idea, I didnt hear it.

I think the Kansas Board of Regents would force a possible conference bid to take them as a package deal. Kind of like how the Texas schools are saying they won't go unless Baylor goes with them as well.

Were you able to find anything more about the WKRB report, Dr.?

he just made that shit up

Just turned on that show on my XM radio. They are just repeating something reported from an Indianapolis radio show, and they are making it very clear that they think it is a wild rumour which they have no idea about.

Hey i have heard something like that before .... :hmmm:

The VP of the board is already on record as basically saying that, although tragic, they wouldn't force a KU-KSU package deal if it was for the best that they go to different conferences.

Makes sense, because they dont have as much leverage as, say, the Texas legislature making demands about the sale of their highly-prized flagship school's conference affiliation.

Despite the apparent fact that KU is not tied down, it hasn't made a difference yet.

So what is the update? mizzou is not invited, Neb to the big 10, correct?

yep. People still speculating that Mizzou's bid is coming, but Tiger fans who were previously smug are beginning to sweat a little bit.

So, I just got done with a 13 hour day and don't have the patience to read the posts from today. What happened today? Missouri got used like the fat girl at last call?

The lone piece of absolute concrete information I have is that a resolution for conference realignment has been put on the agenda for the NU board of regents' meeting on Friday. I can give you a link for a 170 page pdf file if you'd like.

There is pretty much no indication that Mizzou has not been or won't be invited.

I am not worried about Missouri's chances to go to the Big 10. If it doesn't happen I will be shocked.

The only reason Nebraska is being invited is because of their women's basketball program.

I wouldn't laugh yet until you know for sure.

Frankly, it makes too much sense that if the Big 10 expands to 16 Missouri should be high on the list. But, between Nebraska getting the first bid, the uncertainty over whether the Big 10 will stop at 12 or not, and a source in an ESPN story saying that Missouri is getting a "cold shoulder", things could get interesting in Columbia.

Well, it's pretty clear at this point that Nebraska climbed over our heads for the first spot, but nobody knows anything beyond that. Not a peep out of Missouri - the complete absence of any COME BACK SHANE! crying on Alden's part leads me to believe that something may still be in the works.

All of the breaking stories are coming from Texas sites, and it's not like they give two shits about what's going to happen to MU.

I was serious with the first two sentences, summary of today?

Damnit - this is just awful. I'm going to assume the big 12 completely dissolves now and KU is totally ****ed. Maybe Texas will still want to stay and run what's left of the big 12, but I doubt it. I have to figure MU is going to be announced next. :banghead:

It sucks, but college sports is a big business.

Thanks guys, i havent been able to keep up all day. Hope Mizzou gets the invite, makes me slightly nervous. Can't wait till this mess is over.

oh, well in that case, nothing official happened.

However, regarding NU to Big 10, we are beyond just a lot of smoke, even ESPN is sticking their necks out that its a done deal. Lots of sources confirming.

Beyond that, nothing but some stories with fewer or less reputable sources, and a whole lot of rumor.

I'm not going to worry about it any more tonight. Off to grill steaks. :thumb:

Also, Mike Shanahan is now head coach of the chiefs. Odd...

Sports reporter Tweet...

# BlumbergOTB

Still get a mute button from MU Athletics. Text from an Associate AD says, "It's all speculation and I don't have anything to comment on." 14 minutes ago via web

If there wasn't something brewing they would be all over the place trying to fix this. Like Kansas was yesterday and today.

The BCS just completely destroyed college sports.