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CaliforniaChief 01-12-2009 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5384255)
Agreed.

Just just get it right. I'm in no big hurry.

Yes, yes, yes....I thank God some of you don't own the team. People like Clark Hunt are successful because they are prudent decision-makers. This is the most important hire because of the power and lack of meddling that the Hunt's give the team. I mean if this was the Raiders/Redskins, you could hire anybody in the world and it would never matter with Al Davis/Dan Snyder around. But this guy is going to set the direction of the franchise for years to come. Get it right.

ArrowheadHawk 01-12-2009 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 5384268)
I'm not in a hurry for the search overall. I'm in a hurry to get the "Pioli" portion of the search done with, one way or another.

This.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cormac 01-12-2009 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 5384287)
This.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Relax.

You'll look back on this as the "gool ol' days" when Marty Schottenheimer is announced as GM next week.

:D

FloridaMan88 01-12-2009 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 5384271)
Yes, yes, yes....I thank God some of you don't own the team. People like Clark Hunt are successful because they are prudent decision-makers.

Actually people like Clark Hunt owe most of their success and status in life to the fact they were born into a wealthy family.

Reerun_KC 01-12-2009 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cormac (Post 5384294)
Relax.

You'll look back on this as the "gool ol' days" when Marty Schottenheimer is announced as GM next week.

:D

You die and go to hell!


Marty is shit!

beach tribe 01-12-2009 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 5384314)
Actually people like Clark Hunt owe most of their success and status in life to the fact they were born into a wealthy family.

Although i have the utmost respect for Clark Hunt at this point in time, you are correct.

CaliforniaChief 01-12-2009 11:01 PM

Wealth wasn't the only thing passed on to Clark. He observed Lamar's leadership for years and is a respected scholar of his own right.

Hoover 01-12-2009 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 5384271)
Yes, yes, yes....I thank God some of you don't own the team. People like Clark Hunt are successful because they are prudent decision-makers. This is the most important hire because of the power and lack of meddling that the Hunt's give the team. I mean if this was the Raiders/Redskins, you could hire anybody in the world and it would never matter with Al Davis/Dan Snyder around. But this guy is going to set the direction of the franchise for years to come. Get it right.

While I agree with your point, Clark didn't get where he is at because of his business mind. He's where he is at because of his father.

KcMizzou 01-12-2009 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 5384438)
While I agree with your point, Clark didn't get where he is at because of his business mind. He's where he is at because of his father.

I think it's (obviously) too early to judge him.

The fact that he let Carl go, is a good sign, IMO.

The fact that he hasn't made a GM hire yet, doesn't lessen my opinion of him at all.

ArrowheadHawk 01-12-2009 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cormac (Post 5384294)
Relax.

You'll look back on this as the "gool ol' days" when Marty Schottenheimer is announced as GM next week.

:D

I was listening to his show today on Sirius and when a Denver fan called in and told him that he respected him and wanted to see him on the sidelines again, just not on an AFC West team. Marty just scoffed and quickly moved on. I guess this could be a sign. ;)

KChiefs1 01-12-2009 11:18 PM

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/f...ome&position=1

Defections might take a toll
<!--//Byline box//-->
By John Tomase / Patriots Beat | Tuesday, January 13, 2009 | http://www.bostonherald.com |
<!--//Byline box end//--><!--//article Image//-->http://multimedia.heraldinteractive....8d5a7_josh.jpg
Photo by Herald file



<!--//article Image//--><!--//article//-->The question on the minds of Patriotsfans everywhere this morning is two-fold:

Now what? And when will this end?

Watching former offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels step off a private jet outside of Denver yesterday wearing an orange tie was jarring enough. But when coupled with the thought of Scott Pioli following him out the door, it feels more like a car wreck.

The brain drain is on in Foxboro, where the pillaged Patriots must once again prove they can overcome the loss of some of Bill Belichick’s most valued lieutenants and remain competitive.

But how much is too much? We might be in the process of finding out.

Since the end of the 2004 season, the Patriots have lost Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennel, Eric Mangini and now McDaniels, to name a few.


Pioli, the team’s vice president of player personnel, remains in talks with the Kansas City Chiefs and could soon be eating at Arthur Bryant’s nightly.

His presumed replacement, director of player personnel Nick Caserio, already is generating buzz as a future GM in his own right, particularly following the success of his predecessor Thomas Dimitroff in Atlanta.

Caserio recently was mentioned by Browns owner Randy Lerner as a candidate for Cleveland’s GM opening.

The Patriots worked a minor miracle this season when Matt Cassel replaced Tom Brady [stats] and led the team to 11 victories. They had no business expecting that type of production out of the career backup.

At some point, it’s going to be too much to ask of the coaching staff, too.

When Weis left, McDaniels stepped in and helped pilot a record-setting offense. When Crennel left, Mangini stepped up before becoming a coach of the year candidate with the Jets. He was replaced by Dean Pees, who led the defense of an 18-0 team in ’07.

At some point, the replacements simply aren’t there. The top two candidates on the staff to become offensive coordinator appear to be tight ends coach Pete Mangurian and wide receivers coach Bill O’Brien.

Even if one steps right in without missing a beat, there’s no guarantee their replacement will get the job done lower on the rung. At some point, the foundation cracks.

Belichick obviously is the key figure in all of this, and some believe he’ll simply take control of the offense himself while breaking in a coordinator, much like he did with McDaniels in 2005. But it’s asking a lot of him to run the offense and assume a greater portion of Pioli’s responsibilities on the personnel side.

You can’t wear that many hats without eventually tipping over.

So what now? The first question is offensive coordinator. Former Cowboys, Broncos, Giants and Falcons coach Dan Reeves advocated on behalf of Mangurian. The Sirius Radio host employed Mangurian at his final three coaching stops, most recently as offensive coordinator with the 2003 Falcons.

“Pete understands defenses and how to attack them,” Reeves said. “He knows what they’re trying to do. He’s really bright. He knows all phases of the game.”

The 39-year-old O’Brien is considered an up-and-comer with a long history in the college game, but just two years of NFL experience. The Brown grad served as offensive coordinator at Georgia Tech and Duke before joining the Pats and won’t necessarily be held back by his lack of experience. Pees, after all, only had two years in the NFL as Pats linebackers coach before replacing Mangini.

The bigger question is Pioli. While there have been whispers that things are heating up with the Chiefs, he’s still a member of the Patriots front office. If the Pats lose him, the very way they acquire players will be torn in two.

Add it all together, and it’s tough to be a Patriots fan right now. On the field, the 2008 season was a success, but off it, the losses are mounting.

It’s only fair to wonder how many more the Pats can withstand.

Craqhead 01-12-2009 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 5383959)
This idea that Pioli only has 1 or 2 people as viable coaches all goes back to the preconceived (and now disproved) rumors that Pioli will only leave if he gets a package deal with coach. There's no verification of that at all. What's to say he wouldn't pursue Shanahan, or Spagnuolo, or Frazier, or someone you don't even know about? He has been in the league for a long time and has lots of connections in the league. Let's just get Pioli in town first and then worry about the next step. I'd rather have both parties convinced that this is right than to rush because some "hot coordinator" is going to go off the market soon.

Such logic produces the same behavior that causes us to buy cars and other things without research for fear that they'll be gone soon.

This, and I hate too say it... but what if Clarks talking him into letting Herm have the last year on his contract.

GAWD DAMNIT... I kno I kno... im sorry

ArrowheadHawk 01-12-2009 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 5384449)
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/f...ome&position=1

Defections might take a toll
<!--//Byline box//-->
By John Tomase / Patriots Beat | Tuesday, January 13, 2009 | http://www.bostonherald.com |
<!--//Byline box end//--><!--//article Image//-->http://multimedia.heraldinteractive....8d5a7_josh.jpg
Photo by Herald file



<!--//article Image//--><!--//article//-->The question on the minds of Patriotsfans everywhere this morning is two-fold:

Now what? And when will this end?

Watching former offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels step off a private jet outside of Denver yesterday wearing an orange tie was jarring enough. But when coupled with the thought of Scott Pioli following him out the door, it feels more like a car wreck.

The brain drain is on in Foxboro, where the pillaged Patriots must once again prove they can overcome the loss of some of Bill Belichick’s most valued lieutenants and remain competitive.

But how much is too much? We might be in the process of finding out.

Since the end of the 2004 season, the Patriots have lost Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennel, Eric Mangini and now McDaniels, to name a few.


Pioli, the team’s vice president of player personnel, remains in talks with the Kansas City Chiefs and could soon be eating at Arthur Bryant’s nightly.

His presumed replacement, director of player personnel Nick Caserio, already is generating buzz as a future GM in his own right, particularly following the success of his predecessor Thomas Dimitroff in Atlanta.

Caserio recently was mentioned by Browns owner Randy Lerner as a candidate for Cleveland’s GM opening.

The Patriots worked a minor miracle this season when Matt Cassel replaced Tom Brady [stats] and led the team to 11 victories. They had no business expecting that type of production out of the career backup.

At some point, it’s going to be too much to ask of the coaching staff, too.

When Weis left, McDaniels stepped in and helped pilot a record-setting offense. When Crennel left, Mangini stepped up before becoming a coach of the year candidate with the Jets. He was replaced by Dean Pees, who led the defense of an 18-0 team in ’07.

At some point, the replacements simply aren’t there. The top two candidates on the staff to become offensive coordinator appear to be tight ends coach Pete Mangurian and wide receivers coach Bill O’Brien.

Even if one steps right in without missing a beat, there’s no guarantee their replacement will get the job done lower on the rung. At some point, the foundation cracks.

Belichick obviously is the key figure in all of this, and some believe he’ll simply take control of the offense himself while breaking in a coordinator, much like he did with McDaniels in 2005. But it’s asking a lot of him to run the offense and assume a greater portion of Pioli’s responsibilities on the personnel side.

You can’t wear that many hats without eventually tipping over.

So what now? The first question is offensive coordinator. Former Cowboys, Broncos, Giants and Falcons coach Dan Reeves advocated on behalf of Mangurian. The Sirius Radio host employed Mangurian at his final three coaching stops, most recently as offensive coordinator with the 2003 Falcons.

“Pete understands defenses and how to attack them,” Reeves said. “He knows what they’re trying to do. He’s really bright. He knows all phases of the game.”

The 39-year-old O’Brien is considered an up-and-comer with a long history in the college game, but just two years of NFL experience. The Brown grad served as offensive coordinator at Georgia Tech and Duke before joining the Pats and won’t necessarily be held back by his lack of experience. Pees, after all, only had two years in the NFL as Pats linebackers coach before replacing Mangini.

The bigger question is Pioli. While there have been whispers that things are heating up with the Chiefs, he’s still a member of the Patriots front office. If the Pats lose him, the very way they acquire players will be torn in two.

Add it all together, and it’s tough to be a Patriots fan right now. On the field, the 2008 season was a success, but off it, the losses are mounting.

It’s only fair to wonder how many more the Pats can withstand.

I really feel sorry for the Pats. :D Please come to us Pioli.:grovel:

Craqhead 01-12-2009 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 5383998)
I love how the Boston media is completely outscooping the KC Star on this Pioli story.

Maybe they KC media cant get a scoop... cuz Clark said he would fire peeps for leaking info. Or sumthing like that.

DaWolf 01-12-2009 11:21 PM

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/977828-p2.html

Chiefs go about their business as GM hunt goes on
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Whether it’s Scott Pioli or someone else, the next Chiefs general manager might have to wait a while before he’s in his new job.

Interim president/general manager Denny Thum, who is assisting chairman Clark Hunt in the selection process, said Hunt hopes to hire a general manager before the Super Bowl, which is Feb. 1.

Hunt has interviewed Pioli, New England’s vice president for player personnel, and others. Hunt could interview as many as 10 candidates before he’s finished.

In the meantime, the Chiefs are going about business as usual. They recently signed several players, including quarterback Ingle Martin on Monday, to fill out the bottom of their roster.

The Chiefs have started preparing for free-agency, which begins in late February, and the April draft. They will have the third pick, their highest selection since choosing Nebraska defensive end Neil Smith with the second choice in 1988.

The uncertainty, which includes a most tenuous future for Herm Edwards and his coaching staff, makes these processes difficult.

“That’s for sure,” Thum said. “As far as specific direction with free-agency and the draft, until we hire a general manager, what we’re trying to do is cover all the bases.

“But our preparation hasn’t stopped. (Vice president) Bill Kuharich and his staff are getting ready for the draft. All of our scouts have left for the East-West practices and will go straight on to the Senior Bowl practices next week. (Pro personnel director) Ray Farmer is continuing to evaluate the waiver wire. Things are still going on. We’re moving forward.”

Thum joined the Chiefs 25 years ago as an accountant. He eventually worked his way to executive vice president with responsibilities for most of the business functions, including management of the salary cap and negotiation of player contracts.

He is the leading candidate to become Chiefs president, who will handle the business affairs. The general manager will oversee the football operation.

No matter the general manager, Thum indicated the Chiefs will be more active this year in free-agency. They gutted their roster after last season, and the few free agents signed by the Chiefs were low-impact starters or backups.

“We hope to continue to draft well,” Thum said. “But then you also hope to have some (veteran) players you can bring in that can fill specific roles and add a little more leadership on the football field. When you have a team as young as ours and you start looking around for answers on the field and everybody is about the same age as you, that makes it difficult.”

Thum met recently with Kuharich, Farmer, Edwards and coordinators Chan Gailey and Gunther Cunningham to evaluate the roster. He said he was affected by the strong improvement of many of the rookies as the season progressed.

He mentioned by name offensive lineman Branden Albert and cornerbacks Brandon Flowers, Brandon Carr and Maurice Leggett — but not the Chiefs’ top draft pick, defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey.

“A lot of young players made a lot of growth throughout the season,” he said. “If you look at the first part of the season to the second half of the season, offensively we did some things better. Defensively, we still had some issues, but there were certain players that stepped up and played better.”

“It was very insightful. We still know there are areas we need to fill, but the coaching staff gave a good evaluation. It gives me a good feel as we start to look toward free-agency as far as areas of need. This is something that when the new GM is hired, I’ll be able to share with him.”

Edwards and the assistant coaches have been in limbo since the season ended on Dec. 28 with a 16-6 loss to the Bengals in Cincinnati. Hunt said the Chiefs would decide whether to retain Edwards and the staff once the general manager is hired.

Edwards is not free to make any staff changes, and the assistants were, at least until recently, not free to look for other jobs. But the Chiefs granted Houston’s request to interview secondary coach David Gibbs.

It’s unclear whether the Gibbs interview represents a policy change that allows Chiefs coaches to look for other jobs or whether it’s a one-shot deal. Gibbs has ties to the Texans. He once worked in Denver with head coach Gary Kubiak. His father, Alex, is a Houston assistant coach.

Either way, Edwards and the assistant coaches are still employed by the Chiefs.

Asked whether being placed in such a situation for a prolonged period was fair to Edwards and the other coaches, Thum said, “I would hope when we hire the new general manager, we can go through the evaluation process as quickly as possible.”

ArrowheadHawk 01-12-2009 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craqhead (Post 5384451)
This, and I hate too say it... but what if Clarks talking him into letting Herm have the last year on his contract.

GAWD DAMNIT... I kno I kno... im sorry

STFU

smittysbar 01-12-2009 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craqhead (Post 5384451)
This, and I hate too say it... but what if Clarks talking him into letting Herm have the last year on his contract.

GAWD DAMNIT... I kno I kno... im sorry

I don't know why so many on here believe that Clark actually wants Herm back for 1 more year very bad.

Bugeater 01-12-2009 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 5384459)
I don't know why so many on here believe that Clark actually wants Herm back for 1 more year very bad.

I think the fact that he's still employed has something to do with it.

KcMizzou 01-12-2009 11:31 PM

Quote:

The bigger question is Pioli. While there have been whispers that things are heating up with the Chiefs, he’s still a member of the Patriots front office. If the Pats lose him, the very way they acquire players will be torn in two.

Add it all together, and it’s tough to be a Patriots fan right now.
Oh, for ****'s sake....

Seriously?

No offense Pats fans... but you haven't known what "tough" is for a long while.

If Clark gets his man... I'll be sold. (And patient.)

Craqhead 01-12-2009 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 5384459)
I don't know why so many on here believe that Clark actually wants Herm back for 1 more year very bad.

And the fact that the KC media has said so much...

KChiefs1 01-12-2009 11:33 PM

Some interesting comments by Pats fans about Pioli coming to KC:

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...kc_starti.html


11 comments so far...
  1. Why is this still dragging on? What's taking these teams so long? How hard is it to hire a GM or head coach? This is football. Just football.
    Our next president of the United States hired his chief of staff, attorney general, secretary of state, national security advisor, etc etc in less time.
    No wonder these teams are eternal losers.


    Posted by I like turtles January 11, 09 09:38 AM

  1. My understanding is that Kansas City is a great community to live in and the team certainly has a solid fan base and a good tradition. I live in Colorado and have been in Denver around game day and the fans travel in droves to support their team. I hate to see Pioli go but this could be a good move for him.

    Posted by bz January 11, 09 09:39 AM

  1. bz, if you've spent 3 hours in KC you've spent a decade there. It's a forgettable town, the BBQ isn't very good and they have umm a lot of shopping malls. They still shop at Wal-mart even though a former executive bought the team and proved the Wal-Mart way isn't the way to run a winning organization.
    Still they're nice mostly unsophisticated people and I think the Pioli family would quickly get bored living there. Plus the schools aren't much to brag about - they fight teaching evolution in science class. It's all Pioli's if he wants it but I can't see a guy like him staying long when reality hits his family.

    Posted by CJ January 11, 09 01:10 PM

  1. Exactly how long did it take our next president to hire his staff? Certainly more than a month. The Two year campaign certainly included thoughts and meetings regarding possible staffs. At least I hope so.

    Posted by Mr. Right January 11, 09 02:00 PM

  1. I just don't understand, why Pioli is leaving. He got the greatest coach ever, awsome owner, best qb in the league. I just don't understand, what else he could get somewhere else, that he does nto have it here.... Unless, he like chalange..

    Posted by pawan January 11, 09 02:04 PM

  1. CJ your opiiniion of KC is dead wrong, my guess is you have never spent anytime there. Ï have live iin both Boston and KÇ and would choose KÇ everyday of the week...
    For starters they have some of the highest standarized test scores so maybe you need to re-think yor whoe schools suck theory....Plus the BBQ is better and less expensive then anything NE has to offer. Ì think its funny someone calls KC eternal losers....Quick question what was being said about us before BB got here. When KC was winning division tiitle after division title..
    OH by the way Piolis wife is from KS so if it was that bad they wouldn't be considering it.. Both are fantastic situations is just depends on where he would rather be...I hope he stays but I also understand that KC is an ideal situation for any new gm. Age,salary cap, talent...they have a lot of flexibity...

    Posted by 11-5andout? January 11, 09 04:47 PM

  1. Hey CJ, you have no clue what you are talking about. Let's assume for a second that you actually did spend three hours in Kansas City. If you hung out at a mall, and then went to the mall barbecue place does that make you some sort of a travel critic?
    You can never make any judgements about a city unless you have spent a considerable amount of time and you were with people who knew the city.
    I believe you are demonstrating that it is YOU that lacks sophistication. What a tool!



    Posted by Chieffan January 11, 09 05:00 PM

  1. Pioli would be a fool to pass up this opportunity. I don't think he's a fool, so if he's offered it, I think he will be the new GM of the Kansas City Chiefs.

    Posted by ChiefsCrowd.com January 11, 09 10:30 PM

  1. 11-5andout
    Pioli's wife is the Tuna's daughter, Dallas. So when did he coach in KC for her to grow up KS???? He coached the Giants and was on the Pat's staff before that...

    Posted by Iguide January 12, 09 09:19 AM

  1. I read an article either on here or espn that stated she grew up in wichita,ks... I will try to find it and submit a link....

    Posted by 11-5andout? January 12, 09 12:17 PM

  1. I am sure that CJ does not represent most New England fans. True, Kansas City is not Boston. There are not 10 million people there. It does not have 300 year old colleges or buildings. That doesn't make it a "forgettable town". You didn't tell us if you actually spent 3 hours there, but if you landed with that attitude I am sure that you did not have a good time.
    Kansas City has great BBQ. People are straightforward and they will tell you how they feel. For a man of his position, Pioli would find excellent private schools, and public schools in Kansas or the Missouri suburbs. I can't argue that inner city KCMO schools are having a hard time right now. Pioli and his family are going to love it.


    Posted by RobWilliams71 January 12, 09 04:04 PM


KcMizzou 01-12-2009 11:38 PM

I was about to blast this...

Quote:

bz, if you've spent 3 hours in KC you've spent a decade there. It's a forgettable town, the BBQ isn't very good and they have umm a lot of shopping malls. They still shop at Wal-mart even though a former executive bought the team and proved the Wal-Mart way isn't the way to run a winning organization.
Still they're nice mostly unsophisticated people and I think the Pioli family would quickly get bored living there. Plus the schools aren't much to brag about - they fight teaching evolution in science class. It's all Pioli's if he wants it but I can't see a guy like him staying long when reality hits his family.
But the Pats fans did it for me...

Thanks for the respect, Boston.

Reaper16 01-12-2009 11:39 PM

"CJ" sounds like the prototypical Boston sports fan.

http://cdn.kissingsuzykolber.uproxx....s400/tommy.jpg

carlos3652 01-12-2009 11:43 PM

2007 Trade Notes
March 5: The Patriots acquired WR Wes Welker from the Miami Dolphins in exchange for a second-round selection in the 2007 NFL Draft (60th overall) and a seventh-round selection in the 2007 NFL Draft (238th overall).
April 29: The Patriots acquired WR Randy Moss from the Oakland Raiders in exchange for a fourth-round selection in the 2007 NFL Draft (110th overall – CB John Bowie).

Makes the surtain for a second rounder look bad...

tk13 01-12-2009 11:50 PM

Yeah, Dayton Moore turned down the Red Sox and came to the Royals because he didn't want his kids to grow up in Boston.

RealSNR 01-13-2009 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 5384456)
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/977828-p2.html

Chiefs go about their business as GM hunt goes on
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Whether it’s Scott Pioli or someone else, the next Chiefs general manager might have to wait a while before he’s in his new job.

Interim president/general manager Denny Thum, who is assisting chairman Clark Hunt in the selection process, said Hunt hopes to hire a general manager before the Super Bowl, which is Feb. 1.

Hunt has interviewed Pioli, New England’s vice president for player personnel, and others. Hunt could interview as many as 10 candidates before he’s finished.

In the meantime, the Chiefs are going about business as usual. They recently signed several players, including quarterback Ingle Martin on Monday, to fill out the bottom of their roster.

The Chiefs have started preparing for free-agency, which begins in late February, and the April draft. They will have the third pick, their highest selection since choosing Nebraska defensive end Neil Smith with the second choice in 1988.

The uncertainty, which includes a most tenuous future for Herm Edwards and his coaching staff, makes these processes difficult.

“That’s for sure,” Thum said. “As far as specific direction with free-agency and the draft, until we hire a general manager, what we’re trying to do is cover all the bases.

“But our preparation hasn’t stopped. (Vice president) Bill Kuharich and his staff are getting ready for the draft. All of our scouts have left for the East-West practices and will go straight on to the Senior Bowl practices next week. (Pro personnel director) Ray Farmer is continuing to evaluate the waiver wire. Things are still going on. We’re moving forward.”

Thum joined the Chiefs 25 years ago as an accountant. He eventually worked his way to executive vice president with responsibilities for most of the business functions, including management of the salary cap and negotiation of player contracts.

He is the leading candidate to become Chiefs president, who will handle the business affairs. The general manager will oversee the football operation.

No matter the general manager, Thum indicated the Chiefs will be more active this year in free-agency. They gutted their roster after last season, and the few free agents signed by the Chiefs were low-impact starters or backups.

“We hope to continue to draft well,” Thum said. “But then you also hope to have some (veteran) players you can bring in that can fill specific roles and add a little more leadership on the football field. When you have a team as young as ours and you start looking around for answers on the field and everybody is about the same age as you, that makes it difficult.”

Thum met recently with Kuharich, Farmer, Edwards and coordinators Chan Gailey and Gunther Cunningham to evaluate the roster. He said he was affected by the strong improvement of many of the rookies as the season progressed.

He mentioned by name offensive lineman Branden Albert and cornerbacks Brandon Flowers, Brandon Carr and Maurice Leggett — but not the Chiefs’ top draft pick, defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey.

“A lot of young players made a lot of growth throughout the season,” he said. “If you look at the first part of the season to the second half of the season, offensively we did some things better. Defensively, we still had some issues, but there were certain players that stepped up and played better.”

“It was very insightful. We still know there are areas we need to fill, but the coaching staff gave a good evaluation. It gives me a good feel as we start to look toward free-agency as far as areas of need. This is something that when the new GM is hired, I’ll be able to share with him.”

Edwards and the assistant coaches have been in limbo since the season ended on Dec. 28 with a 16-6 loss to the Bengals in Cincinnati. Hunt said the Chiefs would decide whether to retain Edwards and the staff once the general manager is hired.

Edwards is not free to make any staff changes, and the assistants were, at least until recently, not free to look for other jobs. But the Chiefs granted Houston’s request to interview secondary coach David Gibbs.

It’s unclear whether the Gibbs interview represents a policy change that allows Chiefs coaches to look for other jobs or whether it’s a one-shot deal. Gibbs has ties to the Texans. He once worked in Denver with head coach Gary Kubiak. His father, Alex, is a Houston assistant coach.

Either way, Edwards and the assistant coaches are still employed by the Chiefs.

Asked whether being placed in such a situation for a prolonged period was fair to Edwards and the other coaches, Thum said, “I would hope when we hire the new general manager, we can go through the evaluation process as quickly as possible.”

This is BALLS :shake::cuss:

**** that. Picking a new head coach after February? That's so stupid. We're probably going to be looking for a GM who will just as soon keep Herm around for another year.

Damn it

kobebehar 01-13-2009 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 5384462)
I think the fact that he's still employed has something to do with it.

ROFL

Reerun_KC 01-13-2009 12:46 AM

Dear ****ing GOD, if we hire a GM and Herm is still here or coaches next year.. Pioli or not, That GM isnt worth a ****ing shit or his weight in shit...

Lets hope we get a GM with a sack between his legs... We dont need another Carl Peterson...

kcxiv 01-13-2009 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5384532)
Dear ****ing GOD, if we hire a GM and Herm is still here or coaches next year.. Pioli or not, That GM isnt worth a ****ing shit or his weight in shit...

Lets hope we get a GM with a sack between his legs... We dont need another Carl Peterson...

I have no problems keeping Herm another year with Pioli here. Maybe Pioli wants another coach that isnt available atm.


I do want Herm gone, but i have always sai dhe will be here another year from the get go.

Reerun_KC 01-13-2009 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5384540)
I have no problems keeping Herm another year with Pioli here. Maybe Pioli wants another coach that isnt available atm.


I do want Herm gone, but i have always sai dhe will be here another year from the get go.

Sure why not, he has already set this franchise back 2-3 years, what is the difference if he ****s it up for another year...

Nothing good can come from Herm being on the sidelines next year, it futher hurts the talent and youth on this team... No way Pioli, a successful VP, will come to KC and be forced to keep Herm... Pioli has been surround by success... There inst anything about Herm that remotely mentions success, unless his cock holster, which he runs freely, is considered successful.

RealSNR 01-13-2009 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5384551)
Sure why not, he has already set this franchise back 2-3 years, what is the difference if he ****s it up for another year...

Nothing good can come from Herm being on the sidelines next year, it futher hurts the talent and youth on this team... No way Pioli, a successful VP, will come to KC and be forced to keep Herm... Pioli has been surround by success... There inst anything about Herm that remotely mentions success, unless his cock holster, which he runs freely, is considered successful.

I've observed your posting style over the years. I notice that you never have anything fresh or entertaining to say. I've never laughed at any of your jokes, if you had any at all. I've never read a football take of yours and said, "say, now that's interesting. I'll have to think about that." I've also never seen you post anything apart from Herm/Clark hate when you are discussing football.

We get it. Herm is a bad coach, and Carl made a lot of poor decisions that prevented us from moving foward as a successful franchise. That's the opinion shared by 90% of the members on this BB. Are you trying to prove a point or what? Because most people already ****ing get it.

kobebehar 01-13-2009 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5384577)
I've observed your posting style over the years. I notice that you never have anything fresh or entertaining to say. I've never laughed at any of your jokes, if you had any at all. I've never read a football take of yours and said, "say, now that's interesting. I'll have to think about that." I've also never seen you post anything apart from Herm/Clark hate when you are discussing football.

We get it. Herm is a bad coach, and Carl made a lot of poor decisions that prevented us from moving foward as a successful franchise. That's the opinion shared by 90% of the members on this BB. Are you trying to prove a point or what? Because most people already ****ing get it.

Herm's an awesome coach, d00d. What are you talking about?

RealSNR 01-13-2009 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kobebehar (Post 5384579)
Herm's an awesome coach, d00d. What are you talking about?

You're probably right. I hear he took the Jets to the playoffs more times than any other coach in that team's history. That's pretty good.

HES A WINNAR ANDA FIGHTER AND I LIKE HIM DAMN IT

kobebehar 01-13-2009 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5384581)
You're probably right. I hear he took the Jets to the playoffs more times than any other coach in that team's history. That's pretty good.

HES A WINNAR ANDA FIGHTER AND I LIKE HIM DAMN IT

That's very good, they're a storied franchise...... 'member Namath?

RealSNR 01-13-2009 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kobebehar (Post 5384582)
That's very good, they're a storied franchise...... 'member Namath?

Namath. He won a Super Bowl. Led his team to victory like a field general. He put the team on his shoulders and won the game against the odds. He could have thrown for 5 INTs, but that wouldn't have mattered because his team WON. And because his team WON that means he did it, because the QB is the leader. If he threw 5 INTs and his team won, that means he won IN SPITE of throwing for 5 INTs, which makes him an even better QB than guys who win big games and put up great numbers.

kobebehar 01-13-2009 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5384585)
Namath. He won a Super Bowl. Led his team to victory like a field general. He put the team on his shoulders and won the game against the odds. He could have thrown for 5 INTs, but that wouldn't have mattered because his team WON. And because his team WON that means he did it, because the QB is the leader. If he threw 5 INTs and his team won, that means he won IN SPITE of throwing for 5 INTs, which makes him an even better QB than guys who win big games and put up great numbers.

EZZAKLY!

QBs that win by playing well are dime a dozen. Winning by virtue of your sheer ability to just ****ing win, that takes a man. a winning man. With each pick a winner throws, he just is taxing that well of raw winner deep in his gut all the more.

RealSNR 01-13-2009 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kobebehar (Post 5384586)
EZZAKLY!

QBs that win by playing well are dime a dozen. Winning by virtue of your sheer ability to just ****ing win, that takes a man. a winning man. With each pick a winner throws, he just is taxing that well of raw winner deep in his gut all the more.

Yep.

You know the winningest QB over the past three seasons with the Chiefs?

Damon Huard.

That guy clearly is the best QB on the roster because he knows how to win. He needs to be starting next season, because clearly Croyle and Thigpen with their poor records are less talented players. Huard gives us the best chance to win.

Unless we trade for Matt Cassell. That guy knows how to win. He doesn't care that he's the backup behind a future HOF... he just went in and led the team to victories.

i'mgonnacumi'mgonnacumi'mgonnacumi'mgonnacumi'mgonnacum

The Bad Guy 01-13-2009 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 5384456)
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/977828-p2.html

Chiefs go about their business as GM hunt goes on
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Whether it’s Scott Pioli or someone else, the next Chiefs general manager might have to wait a while before he’s in his new job.

Interim president/general manager Denny Thum, who is assisting chairman Clark Hunt in the selection process, said Hunt hopes to hire a general manager before the Super Bowl, which is Feb. 1.

Hunt has interviewed Pioli, New England’s vice president for player personnel, and others. Hunt could interview as many as 10 candidates before he’s finished.

In the meantime, the Chiefs are going about business as usual. They recently signed several players, including quarterback Ingle Martin on Monday, to fill out the bottom of their roster.

The Chiefs have started preparing for free-agency, which begins in late February, and the April draft. They will have the third pick, their highest selection since choosing Nebraska defensive end Neil Smith with the second choice in 1988.

The uncertainty, which includes a most tenuous future for Herm Edwards and his coaching staff, makes these processes difficult.

“That’s for sure,” Thum said. “As far as specific direction with free-agency and the draft, until we hire a general manager, what we’re trying to do is cover all the bases.

“But our preparation hasn’t stopped. (Vice president) Bill Kuharich and his staff are getting ready for the draft. All of our scouts have left for the East-West practices and will go straight on to the Senior Bowl practices next week. (Pro personnel director) Ray Farmer is continuing to evaluate the waiver wire. Things are still going on. We’re moving forward.”

Thum joined the Chiefs 25 years ago as an accountant. He eventually worked his way to executive vice president with responsibilities for most of the business functions, including management of the salary cap and negotiation of player contracts.

He is the leading candidate to become Chiefs president, who will handle the business affairs. The general manager will oversee the football operation.

No matter the general manager, Thum indicated the Chiefs will be more active this year in free-agency. They gutted their roster after last season, and the few free agents signed by the Chiefs were low-impact starters or backups.

“We hope to continue to draft well,” Thum said. “But then you also hope to have some (veteran) players you can bring in that can fill specific roles and add a little more leadership on the football field. When you have a team as young as ours and you start looking around for answers on the field and everybody is about the same age as you, that makes it difficult.”

Thum met recently with Kuharich, Farmer, Edwards and coordinators Chan Gailey and Gunther Cunningham to evaluate the roster. He said he was affected by the strong improvement of many of the rookies as the season progressed.

He mentioned by name offensive lineman Branden Albert and cornerbacks Brandon Flowers, Brandon Carr and Maurice Leggett — but not the Chiefs’ top draft pick, defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey.

“A lot of young players made a lot of growth throughout the season,” he said. “If you look at the first part of the season to the second half of the season, offensively we did some things better. Defensively, we still had some issues, but there were certain players that stepped up and played better.”

“It was very insightful. We still know there are areas we need to fill, but the coaching staff gave a good evaluation. It gives me a good feel as we start to look toward free-agency as far as areas of need. This is something that when the new GM is hired, I’ll be able to share with him.”

Edwards and the assistant coaches have been in limbo since the season ended on Dec. 28 with a 16-6 loss to the Bengals in Cincinnati. Hunt said the Chiefs would decide whether to retain Edwards and the staff once the general manager is hired.

Edwards is not free to make any staff changes, and the assistants were, at least until recently, not free to look for other jobs. But the Chiefs granted Houston’s request to interview secondary coach David Gibbs.

It’s unclear whether the Gibbs interview represents a policy change that allows Chiefs coaches to look for other jobs or whether it’s a one-shot deal. Gibbs has ties to the Texans. He once worked in Denver with head coach Gary Kubiak. His father, Alex, is a Houston assistant coach.

Either way, Edwards and the assistant coaches are still employed by the Chiefs.

Asked whether being placed in such a situation for a prolonged period was fair to Edwards and the other coaches, Thum said, “I would hope when we hire the new general manager, we can go through the evaluation process as quickly as possible.”

It makes no sense to wait until after the SB if Pioli is your main target.

I want the GM in place so HIS scouts can go to the east west game. I don't want Kuharick and Herm's merry band of morons impacting this franchise another day.

I'm going to make the assumption that if Kokonis and DeCosta were targets, they were already interviewed. Unless they are the guys, what is the sense to wait until after February 1st?

ChiefsGirl 01-13-2009 06:40 AM

Okay gang, as many of you know I still have friends at the highest level in the Chiefs organization and have this info to share with full confidence: Scott Pioli is the new GM. His announcement will come Thursday or Friday at the latest. Clark and Scott are working out the finer points of his contract tonight (money & control), but the deal is sealed. Also, Clark informed Herm Edwards and his coaching staff that they will be released. All assistants can reapply through Scott.

I only share this information because I'm no longer with the team and it's fun to share that a new day is dawning at Arrowhead. Scott Pioli will quickly move to clean out the front office and hire a new coach.

The only info I have on the new coach is it will not be Kirk Ferentz from the Iowa Hawkeyes. Kirk coaches his son at Iowa and does not want to leave until his son graduates.

Mike Shanahan has contacted Pioli, but I don't know any info beyond that.

beach tribe 01-13-2009 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsGirl (Post 5384626)
Okay gang, as many of you know I still have friends at the highest level in the Chiefs organization and have this info to share with full confidence: Scott Pioli is the new GM. His announcement will come Thursday or Friday at the latest. Clark and Scott are working out the finer points of his contract tonight (money & control), but the deal is sealed. Also, Clark informed Herm Edwards and his coaching staff that they will be released. All assistants can reapply through Scott.

I only share this information because I'm no longer with the team and it's fun to share that a new day is dawning at Arrowhead. Scott Pioli will quickly move to clean out the front office and hire a new coach.

The only info I have on the new coach is it will not be Kirk Ferentz from the Iowa Hawkeyes. Kirk coaches his son at Iowa and does not want to leave until his son graduates.

Mike Shanahan has contacted Pioli, but I don't know any info beyond that.

Maybe you didn't get the memo. This is just dumb now.

Fritz88 01-13-2009 07:03 AM

Don't know if this is a repost:

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/1...te-still-no-sc

Morning Update (Still No Scott Pioli News Edition)

Arrowhead_pride_tiny by Chris on Jan 13, 2009 6:19 AM CST in Article Updates

Chiefs News

* Even without a GM, the Kansas City Chiefs are still plugging along- "All of our scouts have left for the East-West practices and will go straight on to the Senior Bowl practices next week. (Pro personnel director) Ray Farmer is continuing to evaluate the waiver wire."
* Arrowhead Addict is talking about coaching retreads in the NFL.
* WPI puts together a long article about the Chiefs' Interim GM/President Denny Thum.
* The only mock draft databases you need to know- Walter Football, Hail Redskins and NFL Mocks. Let's drop any Brian Orakpo being drafted by the Chiefs talk too. Not that there's been much of it. It's just that the guy has no business in the top five, let alone the top ten of this year's draft.
* I found that clip about Demorrio Williams and harness racing that everyone was looking for.
* Here's a really cool 1969 Super Bowl graphic for those looking for a cool screensaver or desktop background.
* What helped the Chiefs win their first Super Bowl? Gatorade.

AFC West News

* The Denver Post catches us up with a time line of the Broncos' head coach search.
* This will piss off Chiefs' fans eventually- New Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels will wear a hoodie on the sideline, ala Bill Belichick.
* The Sports Guru continues to be a go-to-guy for the local Denver media on the Broncos' head coach hire (Skip to the 3:00 mark to see him). Awesome work Guru! I wish the KC media was as open and welcoming as Denver's.

Other NFL News

* The Dolphins won't make any moves at QB, aside from a possible (I stress possible) trade of QB John Beck. UC brought up Beck to the Chiefs back in August.
* Real Clear Sports has the Top 10 Worst Super Bowl teams. Not winners but teams that made the big game. The 2000 Giants were the first to come to my mind.
* The ESPN ombudsman takes the network to task on a couple of issues.

We're still waiting on Scott Pioli news. And it's killing me. We'll have more coming up later today. The off season will start in force once we figure out who our new GM is.

Fritz88 01-13-2009 07:07 AM

Could Hunt be playing the Pioli card to distract the media while he's aiming at something else

Jerm 01-13-2009 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 5384637)
Could Hunt be playing the Pioli card to distract the media while he's aiming at something else

Nah, I don't think Pioli would go along with that...he'd come out and decline that he was going to K.C. if it were all a smokescreen.

EyePod 01-13-2009 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 5383076)
Presumably you mean crushed emotionally.

That game is likely the worst loss I'll ever have to deal with as a sports fan. :shake:

Yes. It was so sweet on my side though.

EyePod 01-13-2009 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5383112)
CP didn't wheel and deal with regard to the draft? Moving up for Gonzo, down for LJ, trading a 1st for Green, dealing JA.

I still love his JA move, although it was only viable because CP is such a dick that JA didn't even want to sign with us.

EyePod 01-13-2009 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 5383166)
Well, from the 2,000 posts on this thread and the drool that is dripping off most of them, it appears that actually many here respect the way the Patriots have built the roster. :D

I just don't respect them as a bunch of cheaters. BB should be banned from the NFL. I would not take this ****ing bullshit. He's a disgrace to the game, even if he's a genius.

Chief Henry 01-13-2009 07:59 AM

Frustration mounts in KC and the midwest amoung Chiefs fans...film at 11.

EyePod 01-13-2009 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Henry (Post 5384675)
Frustration mounts in KC and the midwest amoung Chiefs fans...film at 11.

I don't know what I'd be doing if I lived in KC... maybe stalking Clark Hunt... anyone know how to put a phone tap in?

Ultra Peanut 01-13-2009 08:08 AM

Quote:

It's just that the guy has no business in the top five, let alone the top ten of this year's draft.
That isn't how the phrase "let alone" works.

Baby Lee 01-13-2009 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5384319)
You die and go to hell!


Marty is shit!

Not that he's even coming here, or is a good choice, but driving you nuts is quickly becoming his BIGGEST selling point.

You really are mental.

Craqhead 01-13-2009 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5384684)
I don't know what I'd be doing if I lived in KC... maybe stalking Clark Hunt... anyone know how to put a phone tap in?

Thats why Clark Hunt lives in Dallas.

EyePod 01-13-2009 08:18 AM

Quote:

It's just that the guy has no business in the top five, let alone the top ten of this year's draft.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut (Post 5384686)
That isn't how the phrase "let alone" works.

"let alone
do something and to an even greater degree do something.
We were trapped in a situation you can barely imagine, let alone understand.Usage notes: used to emphasize the extreme character of something


http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/let+alone"


I think it's right... Could you fix it so it is right? I love grammar....

EyePod 01-13-2009 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craqhead (Post 5384698)
Thats why Clark Hunt lives in Dallas.

But his office is in KC!

Brock 01-13-2009 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5384703)
"let alone
do something and to an even greater degree do something.
We were trapped in a situation you can barely imagine, let alone understand.Usage notes: used to emphasize the extreme character of something


http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/let+alone"


I think it's right... Could you fix it so it is right? I love grammar....

If you switched the top10 part with the top 5 part it would be correct.

Baby Lee 01-13-2009 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5384473)
"CJ" sounds like the prototypical Boston sports fan.

http://cdn.kissingsuzykolber.uproxx....s400/tommy.jpg

weah wicked sophistrocated!!!!

EyePod 01-13-2009 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5384706)
If you switched the top10 part with the top 5 part it would be correct.

I thought it sounded better the other way though.
Like "people are saying that he's a top 5 pick, but he shouldn't even be picked in the top 10!" That's how I read that sentence...

EyePod 01-13-2009 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 5384710)
weah wicked sophistrocated!!!!

Man, I ****ing hate Boston fans. **** the Celtics. **** the Red Sox. **** THE PATRIOTS!!! All I think of them is old money and the person from "It's Pat!" rioting... pat riots.....

EyePod 01-13-2009 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5384712)
Man, I ****ing hate Boston fans. **** the Celtics. **** the Red Sox. **** THE PATRIOTS!!! All I think of them is old money and the person from "It's Pat!" rioting... pat riots.....

Oh, and what the **** is up with that reeruned accent? That was the only problem I had with Gone Baby Gone and Good Will Hunting. Those accents are stupid. Redneck southerners sound smarter than people with that ****ing boston accent.

RedThat 01-13-2009 08:28 AM

Why do the chiefs move so slow?

I don't understand? shouldn't it really take this long to hire a general manager?

Fritz88 01-13-2009 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5384716)
Why do the chiefs move so slow?

I don't understand? shouldn't it really take this long to hire a general manager?

It took Obama less time to hire his staff.

Baby Lee 01-13-2009 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5384703)
"let alone
do something and to an even greater degree do something.
We were trapped in a situation you can barely imagine, let alone understand.Usage notes: used to emphasize the extreme character of something


http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/let+alone"


I think it's right... Could you fix it so it is right? I love grammar....

Top ten is not 'an even greater degree' than top five.

Brock 01-13-2009 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5384716)
Why do the chiefs move so slow?

I don't understand? shouldn't it really take this long to hire a general manager?

How long do you think it should take?

KcMizzou 01-13-2009 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 5384718)
Top ten is not 'an even greater degree' than top five.

I'm waiting for the inevitable 10>5 post...

Baby Lee 01-13-2009 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5384715)
Oh, and what the **** is up with that reeruned accent? That was the only problem I had with Gone Baby Gone and Good Will Hunting. Those accents are stupid. Redneck southerners sound smarter than people with that ****ing boston accent.

Piece of trivia didn't know about the Howard Show, Billy West developed his hilarious Marge Schott imitation after seeing Jane Curtain in an 'afterschool special' movie where she was a mom with a hideous Southy accent.

Warning, potentially [patently?] offensive language [but he IS satirizing Marge Schott]

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the Talking Can 01-13-2009 08:42 AM

kendall gammon, on 810 just said "they're close"...but wouldn't explain or elaborate or verify..


so, there's that....

EyePod 01-13-2009 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 5384718)
Top ten is not 'an even greater degree' than top five.

I see what you mean now.

Amnorix 01-13-2009 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5384671)
I just don't respect them as a bunch of cheaters. BB should be banned from the NFL. I would not take this ****ing bullshit. He's a disgrace to the game, even if he's a genius.


ROFLROFLROFL

EyePod 01-13-2009 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5384730)
kendall gammon, on 810 just said "they're close"...but wouldn't explain or elaborate or verify..


so, there's that....

810 is the better one, right?

Amnorix 01-13-2009 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5384715)
Oh, and what the **** is up with that reeruned accent? That was the only problem I had with Gone Baby Gone and Good Will Hunting. Those accents are stupid. Redneck southerners sound smarter than people with that ****ing boston accent.

Not everyone around here sounds that way. Not even close. Only folks from certain neighborhoods.

Second, you have no idea how sllllllloooooooooooowwwwwwww redneck southern accent sounds up here. It's brutal to listen to for those of us who move a little faster. :D

EyePod 01-13-2009 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 5384747)
ROFLROFLROFL

The worst part is that I'm not joking.

Frankie 01-13-2009 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlos3652 (Post 5384475)
2007 Trade Notes
March 5: The Patriots acquired WR Wes Welker from the Miami Dolphins in exchange for a second-round selection in the 2007 NFL Draft (60th overall) and a seventh-round selection in the 2007 NFL Draft (238th overall).
April 29: The Patriots acquired WR Randy Moss from the Oakland Raiders in exchange for a fourth-round selection in the 2007 NFL Draft (110th overall – CB John Bowie).

Makes the surtain for a second rounder look bad...

It always looked bad to me. I was NEVER for this trade.

EyePod 01-13-2009 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 5384752)
Not everyone around here sounds that way. Not even close. Only folks from certain neighborhoods.

Second, you have no idea how sllllllloooooooooooowwwwwwww redneck southern accent sounds up here. It's brutal to listen to for those of us who move a little faster. :D

I'm from NE PA, so I'm not used to the southern accent either, but really, that Boston accent is terrible. I know those people in the movies I referenced are the white trash, but god damn! SPEAK NORMAL! I'd rather the southern drawl... the Boston accent reminds me of Brad Pitt in Snatch.... you wanna buy a dag?

Frankie 01-13-2009 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Henry (Post 5384675)
Flustration mounts in KC and the midwest amoung Chiefs fans...film at 11.

FYP

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-13-2009 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5384758)
I'm from NE PA, so I'm not used to the southern accent either, but really, that Boston accent is terrible. I know those people in the movies I referenced are the white trash, but god damn! SPEAK NORMAL! I'd rather the southern drawl... the Boston accent reminds me of Brad Pitt in Snatch.... you wanna buy a dag?

There's nothing greater than someone speaking northeastern gibberish, and speaking it extra-quick! For greater comprehension!:rolleyes:LMAO

That's why DCS does his east-coast prowling in Manhattan. God's Megalopolis!

EyePod 01-13-2009 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5384784)
There's nothing greater than someone speaking northeastern gibberish, and speaking it extra-quick! For greater comprehension!:rolleyes:LMAO

That's why DCS does his east-coast prowling in Manhattan. God's Megalopolis!

Wow, look at that. DCS talks and the thread dies. Way to go.

Tribal Warfare 01-13-2009 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5384136)
I really like Schwartz and hope he's our head coach, period. If I get upset when he is hired by Detroit or another team, that doesn't mean I don't care about the GM, or want us to follow the Cleveland plan, or anything else.



I find it interesting that Schwartz hasn't excepted the Lions offer right off the bat, because it seems like he's waiting if Pioli accepts the KC job so he can work in a more favorable situation.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-13-2009 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 5384314)
Actually people like Clark Hunt owe most of their success and status in life to the fact they were born into a wealthy family.

Piss on you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5384319)
You die and go to hell!


Marty is shit!

This.



Defections might take a toll

Watching former offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels step off a private jet outside of Denver yesterday wearing an orange tie was jarring enough. But when coupled with the thought of Scott Pioli following him out the door, it feels more like a car wreck.

It's Dungver; they've a douche-nozzle for a QB, who will karmic-douche his way to obscurity just like his Wonder-Twin in San Diego.
Relax.


Pioli, the team’s vice president of player personnel, remains in talks with the Kansas City Chiefs and could soon be eating at Arthur Bryant’s nightly.

AB's isn't the only rib in town; we'll introduce him to many more plus all the Steak Houses.
Your boy belongs to us now.


Belichick obviously is the key figure in all of this, and some believe he’ll simply take control of the offense himself while breaking in a coordinator, much like he did with McDaniels in 2005. But it’s asking a lot of him to run the offense and assume a greater portion of Pioli’s responsibilities on the personnel side.

You can’t wear that many hats without eventually tipping over.

The Pats are about to become Carl Peterson's Chiefs; Groovy.

The bigger question is Pioli. While there have been whispers that things are heating up with the Chiefs, he’s still a member of the Patriots front office. If the Pats lose him, the very way they acquire players will be torn in two.

See above.



Sweet Daddy Hate 01-13-2009 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5384815)
Wow, look at that. DCS talks and the thread dies. Way to go.

Your Nostradomic-Powers humble me, sir. :rolleyes:

EyePod 01-13-2009 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5384837)
The bigger question is Pioli. While there have been whispers that things are heating up with the Chiefs, he’s still a member of the Patriots front office.

I thought his contract is up. Or is it over after the SB? I thought NE would have to re-sign him if they wanted him.

Mr. Arrowhead 01-13-2009 10:32 AM

an announcement coming today, i can feel it


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