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staylor26 05-04-2022 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16282668)
Ok, STFU about how great he can be

Who said anything about “how great he can be”?

Your reading comprehension is awful.

And you’re a complete ****ing dumbass.

Tribal Warfare 05-04-2022 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16282669)
Who said anything about how great he will be?

Your reading comprehension is awful.

And you’re a complete ****ing dumbass.

LOL, wow

BossChief 05-04-2022 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16282655)
I assume you're guaranteeing George will get 8 sacks his rookie year, and average 1.98 per game throughout his career after that.

You should stop posting stats if you aren’t going to post accurate ones.

Nobody in the history of the league has averaged anywhere near 1.98 sacks per game.

Tamba had 89.5 sacks in 177 career games… or, to simplify, he had .50 sacks per game in the NFL. In college, he averaged .56 sacks per game.

Karlaftis had .54 sacks per game in college.

I’m trying to find stats on pressures to do a comparison of the 2 and I’m sure those will align nearly perfectly, as well.

The 2 are very similar in many many ways.

staylor26 05-04-2022 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16282671)
LOL, wow

You would think being completely wrong about Nick Bolton would’ve humbled you just a bit.

Instead, you’re just as stubborn as you were about him.

Tribal Warfare 05-04-2022 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16282676)
You would think being completely wrong about Nick Bolton would’ve humbled you just a bit.

Instead, you’re just as stubborn as you were about him.


Prove me wrong, I don't hide from bad takes unlike some

staylor26 05-04-2022 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16282675)
You should stop posting stats if you aren’t going to post accurate ones.

Nobody in the history of the league has averaged anywhere near 1.98 sacks per game.

Tamba had 89.5 sacks in 177 career games… or, to simplify, he had .50 sacks per game in the NFL. In college, he averaged .56 sacks per game.

Karlaftis had .54 sacks per game in college.

I’m trying to find stats on pressures to do a comparison of the 2 and I’m sure those will align nearly perfectly, as well.

The 2 are very similar in many many ways.

Yea, he also claimed he “averaged 11 sacks a game” in college.

staylor26 05-04-2022 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16282680)
Prove me wrong, I don't hide from bad takes unlike some

Prove you wrong? How exactly am I supposed to prove you wrong about the future you ****ing reerun?

I already proved you wrong about their explosion and college production.

That’s all I can really do given that I don’t have a ****ing time machine.

Tribal Warfare 05-04-2022 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16282681)
Yea, he also claimed he “averaged 11 sacks a game” in college.

Which averages to 1.98 a game for his pro career

Tribal Warfare 05-04-2022 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16282683)
Prove you wrong? How exactly am I supposed to prove you wrong about the future you ****ing reerun?

I already proved you wrong about their explosion and college production.

That’s all I can really do given that I don’t have a ****ing time machine.

If George is great awesome, I'll give him his due.

This all started when I said he doesn't play like Tamba, and then you brought up his pro day numbers where Tamba notoriously had an average showing

staylor26 05-04-2022 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16282684)
Which averages to 1.98 a game for his pro career

His 11 sacks a game in college (which he didn’t have ) averages to 1.98 a game in his pro career?

What the **** are you even talking about? Are you drunk?

BossChief 05-04-2022 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16282669)
Who said anything about “how great he can be”?

Your reading comprehension is awful.

And you’re a complete ****ing dumbass.

Maybe he’s referencing how I said Tamba is the best comp for George and how I can see pro production of the 2 being very similar, too. Starting with high pressures and relatively moderate sack production early to gradually developing into a pressure creating monster that becomes a finisher (higher sack totals) not too long into his career.

Playing next to Jones
Premier coaching
Lots of pass rush opportunities
High motor
Good back 7
Pride and work ethic

staylor26 05-04-2022 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16282688)
Maybe he’s referencing how I said Tamba is the best comp for George and how I can see pro production of the 2 being very similar, too. Starting with high pressures and relatively moderate sack production early to gradually developing into a pressure creating monster that becomes a finisher (higher sack totals) not too long into his career.

Playing next to Jones
Premier coaching
Lots of pass rush opportunities
High motor
Good back 7
Pride and work ethic

Yea, but that doesn’t mean that you’re saying he’s going to be Tamba Hali either. You’re talking about his ceiling.

Tribal Warfare 05-04-2022 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16282687)
His 11 sacks a game in college (which he didn’t have ) averages to 1.98 a game in his pro career?

What the **** are you even talking about? Are you drunk?


I don't feel like a forensic dissection of your posts because I'm on my phone so it's a pain in the ass.

Ultimately, you are not giving a definitive expectation for Karlaftis.

If someone is questioning his ability, and your taking a stance on the discussion make it clear because you're the one waffling

staylor26 05-04-2022 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16282693)
I don't feel like a forensic dissection of your posts because I'm on my phone so it's a pain in the ass.

Ultimately, you are not giving a definitive expectation for Karlaftis.

If someone is questioning his ability, and your taking a stance on the discussion make it clear because you're the one waffling

My expectation is that he will at the very least be a solid player.

His absolute ceiling is probably Trey Hendrickson, but that doesn’t mean that I expect him to be Hendrickson either.

Part of evaluating prospects is understanding that you don’t have a crystal ball. You seem to think you do.

Tribal Warfare 05-04-2022 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16282694)
My expectation is that he will at the very least be a solid player.

His absolute ceiling is probably Trey Hendrickson, but that doesn’t mean that I expect him to be Hendrickson either.

Part of evaluating prospects is understanding that you don’t have a crystal ball. You seem to think you do.


It's part of having a take, you may be correct or not. That's why you see grandstanding when someone is correct or are silent when said poster is wrong.

I have no expectations, because unless he becomes John Randle 2.0 at 3 tech I see an average player at SSDE


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