Agree.

It’s basically the opposite of what we had with Jamaal. Loaded boxes constantly because no one respected Alex Smith’a ability to throw it downfield.

Now, teams have no reason to fear our backs. Even nice 8-15 yard runs with these guys should be 20+ yard runs if we had a back with burst.

It’d be nice to see a big play or two out of the run game again.

I'd take Judkins amongst RB's projected early. Size, burst, violence & hate, quickness, decent receiver, and speed to house one at any given time. Other than Jeanty, Judkins' film pops the most out of the top five or so RB options, in my opinion.

I lie more in the DJ camp of what I want to see from a runner. I just don't think that guy has to A) be a 4.3 runner nor B) be a high draft pick.

We were able to threaten with guys like Kareem Hunt in his prime, Damien Williams and Spencer Ware. Two of those 3 run 4.6.

I think it's more about vision, decisiveness, and initial burst going N/S when they hit that edge or that crease.

I think Woody Marks from USC is an excellent fit for this offense but he doesn't get brought up much because he's a mid 4.5's guy.

Henderson in pass pro:

https://x.com/noflagsfilm/status/190...356911253?s=46

I love how he sets like an OL. That's just f**kin awesome! That's an every-down back IMO.

Honestly, wouldn't be shocked if he's the pick at 31, because he can play right away.

The collisions between him and a blitzing Derwin James would be must-see TV 2x a year.

Ever since I did my last round 1 mock I kept thinking about Henderson. When Jahmyr Gibbs came out, he had virtually the same grade as Henderson. He was considered a very late 1 but probably a high day 2 pick all through the process. Then right at the end, we saw this meteoric rise up the charts and he went 12th overall.

And... I can't help but feel the exact same way right now about Henderson. Unless Loveland makes it to 20, I don't think Henderson is making it past Denver. And that will undoubtedly suck a lot of ass. And then new guy goes and does exactly this in the CP Mock and I almost shit myself.

Hell, if Jeanty goes before the Bears at 10, I wouldn't necessarily rule out Johnson slamming the table to get this guy to be his new Gibbs.

I think he's going way earlier than current projections.

I also feel the same way about one of his teammates in J.T. Tuimoloau. I think he's going in round 1 and ahead of Nic Scourton, but that's another talk.

More pass pro from Hampton, Ollie Gordon and Kyle "My Guy" Monangai...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kyle Monangai pass pro gets me fired up <a href="https://t.co/OO2OjWBIJO">pic.twitter.com/OO2OjWBIJO</a></p>&mdash; James Foster (@NoFlagsFilm) <a href="https://twitter.com/NoFlagsFilm/status/1899801263295922324?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Omarion Hampton pass pro 💪 <a href="https://t.co/lSfvn9hzAE">pic.twitter.com/lSfvn9hzAE</a></p>&mdash; James Foster (@NoFlagsFilm) <a href="https://twitter.com/NoFlagsFilm/status/1902814142903255120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 20, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ollie Gordon pass pro gets me fired up <a href="https://t.co/mc2favAenc">pic.twitter.com/mc2favAenc</a></p>&mdash; James Foster (@NoFlagsFilm) <a href="https://twitter.com/NoFlagsFilm/status/1900219435505381423?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Kid is really good. I am a big fan

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Every Kansas State RB DJ Giddens breakaway run 15+yard from 2024 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft2025?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft2025</a> <a href="https://t.co/D7FAmXl6Vx">pic.twitter.com/D7FAmXl6Vx</a></p>&mdash; Ray G (@RayGQue) <a href="https://twitter.com/RayGQue/status/1898030171665424720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

There’s so many good RB’s in this class I wish we could take two!

If Jeanty had a freak accident before the draft, say something pretty serious like an ACL tear, and he fell to us… would you take him knowing he wouldn’t play at all next season and without certainty he’d be the same?

Pass in that scenario. Need a guy who can help immediately.

It’s a great thought experiment. It basically nets out to: would we trade the 31st pick in this year’s draft for the 10th pick in next year’s draft AND it has to be a RB? The answer to that, I think is yes. Especially since we have the extra 3rd rounder this year and no obvious holes in the starting lineup.

The only position I think the Chiefs can consider a “redshirt” player at 31 is LT.

So Marcus Yarns? Deleware Blue Hen
Matt Nagy? Deleware Blue Hen
Brett Veach? Deleware Blue Hen

Day 3. I’m just saying

This may be controversial but I’m just gonna say it: I like Cam Skettebo and think he’d be a nice fit here and a boost to the offense.

This is controversial? Well, dang. I've been taking him in a lot of my mocks.

He runs like a ****ing Mack truck.

I wouldn't hate it.

He's not fast. But he runs like a damned truck. First guy never brings him down. He'd be an instant fan favorite.

I'm warming up to him.

What surprised me about Skattebo is his ability as a receiver. He’s way better than I thought.

I see CEH all over again with Skattebo.

Clyde never had that kind of contact balance. Guys just bounce of Skattebo.

CEH? He's bigger, faster, stronger, better contact balance, better vision... just better at literally everything. Clyde was the worst ****ing 1st round pick at RB. He wasn't 1st round caliber. He was a 3rd round player Veach reached on for Patrick. The depth of this class is making Skattebo a fringe 2nd/3rd player.

I agree with all the above except, I highly doubt Skattebo is faster. Veach dislocated his damn shoulder reaching for CEH. His contact balance was pretty damn good IMO but not enough to overcome his size/ speed limitations.

Skattebo is bigger but tested similar to CEH at the combine. If I was drafting his heart he'd be first round all day but neither back would be higher than a 3rd for me........Skattebo could change my mind maybe if he ran faster than 4.6

I doubt Henderson will fall to us at 31 and it’s the only one I would consider in the first outside of obviously Jeanty who is out of the question. We need to go trenches in the first. DL is deep and a good player will fall to us. From OTs, Ersery would be the only one I would consider in the 1s. RB is a big need but you can find value in the middle rounds in every draft and with this rb class even more this year.

Well, he's going to host a private workout and run a 40, so they say, so you might just find out. I'd say he's 4.55 and could sneak a 4.50 if he has a great day. 4.60 isn't necessarily bad if you're a good RB. Clyde had no vision. Travis Henry, Josh Jacobs, Kareem Hunt... all 4.6. Aaron Jones, Alvin Kamara 4.56.

Henderson will almost certainly be there at #31, but I wouldn't take him there.

I'd think hard about it in the second round.

If Skatteboo was running in the 4.5's or lower 4.6's in his training, he'd have likely ran at the combine or, at the very least, his pro day where 40s tend to be faster than in Indy.

He must be posting times in training that could potentially hurt him in a crowded RB class. If that's the case, I wouldn't be shocked if he posted times in the +4.7's (if he ran at all) and/or showed up a few pounds lighter than in Indy (219lbs) at around 210-215lbs to aid his speed.

Hopefully, I'm wrong. He's a super fun player to watch regardless of how he tests. Which ever team he goes to, that fanbase will love him.

What I WANT to see and what the Chiefs are going to do are two different things, IMO.

I think the Chiefs NEED and every-down replacement for Pacheco, but I don't think the Chiefs see it that way, therefore I think the complimentary speed demon that functions on 3rd down is the way they will go.

To me, the guy that stands out for that above all else is Brashard Smith. Electric in the open field, will really makes dudes miss at the second level, great pass catcher, GREAT pass blocker (major plus for KC here) and the dude was also an elite returner so he offers versatility and several roles where he could make them more explosive.

If the Chiefs don't go after one of the big guns early (and I personally don't think they will, since I think they still believe in Pacheco) this guy is the perfect guy to target with that 4th round pick. Might even have to consider using that late 3rd rounder to get him.

What I WANT to see and what the Chiefs are going to do are two different things, IMO.

I think the Chiefs NEED and every-down replacement for Pacheco, but I don't think the Chiefs see it that way, therefore I think the complimentary speed demon that functions on 3rd down is the way they will go.

To me, the guy that stands out for that above all else is Brashard Smith. Electric in the open field, will really makes dudes miss at the second level, great pass catcher, GREAT pass blocker (major plus for KC here) and the dude was also an elite returner so he offers versatility and several roles where he could make them more explosive.

If the Chiefs don't go after one of the big guns early (and I personally don't think they will, since I think they still believe in Pacheco) this guy is the perfect guy to target with that 4th round pick. Might even have to consider using that late 3rd rounder to get him.

I think that's what they signed Mitchell for

But overall, all any of the signings at any position do is allow for BPA. No need to reach anywhere.

Skattebo ran a 40 today. Supposedly high 4.5s low 4.6s.

https://x.com/daniel_rios72/status/1...247114555?s=46

He did run though, and it was reportedly high 4.5s, so I'm saying low 4.6s at worst.

That's fine.

Kyren Williams-4.65
Kareem Hunt-4.60
Bucky Irving-4.55

Game speed matters. He’s not a burner but Skattebo is still really good. He’s way more elusive than people think too

Yeah, that'll play.

I'd prefer one of the faster backs, but he's a good bet to be a good player.

High 4.5's to mid 4.6's from what I gathered. Fine indeed. Good stuff.

He's tough - Contact balance, violence, quickness, and vision - some of the most entertaining chunk gains in this class.

If you’re looking for 2017 Kareem Hunt, I think Skatteboo has a lot of appeal.

That’s who he reminds me of.

He reminds me precisely of Rex Burkhead...nearly identical running styles and +traits.

Get in here staylor! Hurricanes Damien Martinez visiting the Chiefs.

I like him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Damien Martinez also impressed me in the three games I watched with his pass protection. Really good eyes and technique.<br><br>Maybe saw one rep across three games that he would want back, and even that one he got a solid piece of the defender <a href="https://t.co/u7AiMIYWPk">pic.twitter.com/u7AiMIYWPk</a></p>&mdash; Zach Hicks (@ZachHicks2) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZachHicks2/status/1904293712127012882?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Ollie Gordon
Quinshon Judkins
Can Skettebo
Damien Martinez

The guys we have visited/met with have a trend: they are guys who are bigger backs who are hard runners that are experienced and capable of being 3 down backs early. Experience and quality in all phases: running, receiving and blocking.

I love Martinez, just hoping they take a RB earlier than that. I've said it before, but I wish we could double dip and take a lightning guy (Sampson) and a thunder (Martinez). Elijah Mitchell and Hunt singings killed that dream though.

I have thought about this a ton as well. I know it'll never happen, but I can't even fathom the kind of protection and defensive looks Mahomes would get if we actually had a dynamic backfield. I would love to see it so much.

We could draft a guy and maybe grab another as UDFA, there’s so many RB’s in this draft I suspect at least one guy we’ve discussed will fall to the 7th or beyond.

Jeanty...SHEESH

Durable with the key skill of being available/relatively healthy

Well, something else I've thought about often over the years.

Yeah, the smaller guys with less mass run the 40 fast as hell in shorts. And pads and helmets are all lighter than they used to be, but I think it's still different to be fast in full game gear.

Skattebo seems like a better version of 2017 Kareem Hunt. He's fast ENOUGH. Elite contact balance. Does all of the things. I'm warming up to him.

He does remind me of Kareem....ALOT.... but pump the brakes a little. Kareem was bigger and just as nasty if not more than this guy.
I still feel the same about him. Wouldn't be upset if he was the guy around the 3rd

A bit risky to rely on a guy who's missed 60% of his NFL career so far due to injury.

Not saying that makes Smith a necessary solution, just that I would be looking at other options if I was the Chiefs.

And Mitchell doesn't offer anything at returner like Smith would.

Just something to consider (and would hope the Chiefs would). :shrug:

And Judkins stands out for the opposite reason.

Smith? Who's Smith?

My point was that the off-season signings would appear to make any reaching unnecessary. As in, we don't HAVE to take anyone in any round.

That also means we can TAKE anyone anywhere we want.

He's NOT bigger. They're actually near EXACTLY the same size.

Hunt played at Toledo. Not quite big time football.

Skattebo is a better prospect.

And I loved Kareem Hunt in his first two seasons. At this point, he's replacement level.

At this point, I'm willing to bet the house that the Chiefs end up with one of Henderson, Judkins, Skattebo, or Martinez.

Add Harvey and Tuten to that list and I agree.

Tutten is a definite target if you go by Veach's draft analytics post CEH. If anything Veach will attempt to get the top speed score player if it's in the value area of 4th round and after.

One guy that reminds me of Kareem is Jordan James

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10 lbs lighter but same tenacity. Love 'im

Ollie Gordon is a wildcard here. Lead CFB in rushing and had 21 TD’s in 2023. If he came out last year he would have been a top 100 pick easy.

Oklahoma State had a lot of changes that hurt him in 2024 and he still had a decent year. Still think he’s a great value on day 3.

Feels like he had a ton of early momentum, but talk has gone a little quiet for him in recent weeks.

Weigh him against our current RB room. Does he fit in, or is he a redundant player considering what Mitchell and Hunt bring to the table? Genuinely curious; I know next to nothing about OGII.

Only guys with access to his pro days and workouts will really know. He got the dui last offseason, was kind of known locally as a partier and put on the negative weight. I’m an okstate institute of tech alum. I follow them. And honestly Gundy the HC has looked uninterested the last few years. Seemed like he was hanging out to keep his son in the program then gonna bail. Now they’ve re worked his deal with an option to get him out. He doesn’t seem like the kind of guy who connects with his kids anymore. Kind of felt like he lost the team and the son may have had something to do with that even though he really didn’t play.

Starting to get onboard with Damien Martinez too.

Welcome aboard!

I've kind of accepted that we probably won't be drafting a RB until the late 3rd at best, and Martinez should go right around that range. Hoping somebody like Skattebo falls there, but I'll take Martinez too.

Did anyone see MJD’s running back ranking?

https://www.nfl.com/news/2025-nfl-dr...cts-no-1-to-31

Omarion Hampton at 7. That’s insane to me.

Hoping either Henderson or Judkins falls to us in the second round. Love both as they fit what we like to do. And Reid won’t be able to resist pounding the rock with either.

I’m out on Scattebo. He’s a really good college back that, imo, is destined to be banged up for a majority of his NFL career. His running style is just not conducive to any form of longevity at the next level. I also want a home run hitter at RB. That’s the threat that’s been missing in this offense.

I'm surprised by the ranking but not his take on Hampton

I shared similar concerns in another thread :

Goddamn. I looked at the 2 and we didn’t have one until 11/29 vs the Raiders. Pacheco got that one and Kareem got the other one in the home game vs the Texans.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fewest rushes of 20+ yards from running backs in 2024: <br><br>Broncos: 4<br>Saints: 3 <br>Raiders: 3<br>Chiefs: 2<br>Rams: 2</p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1907078988625027521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So are we trading Pacheco or cutting Hunt if we draft a RB?

Pacheco
Hunt
Mitchell
Steele
Draft pick

That’s a lot of RB’s. And Hunt and Pacheco will get the majority of carries.

I think Steele is the obvious cut

I think Steele, Hunt, and Mitchell are all easy cuts if you need to cut one.

Going to depend on who they draft and how they perform in camp.

For one, I like having that depth in camp rather than coming out of it and having to sign 2 guys off their couch.

No doubt. But I still don’t think we take a RB to be fourth string. I think you cut Hunt or trade Pacheco

Isn't Pacheco's contract coming up? Hunts in the twilight of his career. Add in Mitchell who hasnt been healthy for half of his career and I dont see why it wouldnt be a no brainer to draft RB

If we take an RB, it's going to be for a specific skill set that we lost with McKinnon. He has to be a good receiving back and pass blocker; otherwise, it's a non-starter. I just don't see going for a two-down back like Pacheco or something.

I feel like there are a very finite number of guys who have that skill set in this draft.

I'd absolutely agree that Steele will be the odd man out in that case. They can use Gray for a lot of the optional items they had Steele run last year. He was pretty much a waste of a roster spot.

With the individuals that are knowned that were interviewed, and Chiefs tendency drafting players in the 2nd and 3rd rounds in their "top 30" visits then said prospects will be Martinez,Skattebo, or Judkins to anticipate drafting.

Seems like they tend to draft "A player" from their top-30 visits, but it's kind of inconsistent on the where. We do get quite a few UDFAs from those visits. Seems like the going rate is one Combine, one top-30 end up drafted, and then there are a couple top-30 that end up as UDFAs.

I have a hard time discarding other prospects of a similar type just because they didn't show up on the list, but I do think we get a picture of certain types they are looking at.

RB is one of those though, where I can't necessarily put a finger on the type given they are kind of all over the board with who they met with. I just think they need a certain skill set back on the roster they don't have. If I'm looking at that skill, I'd have to consider Henderson as option #1. Skattebo though, is definitely high on the list.

They'll likely stick Steele on the practice squad cause the reality is:

Pacheco (FA after this year, could be gone)
Hunt (FA after this year, likely gone)
Mitchell (brokedick)
Steele (only guy for sure we know would be here in 2026)
Draft pick

I'll say this -- I like his rankings more than most that I've seen.

Kaleb Johnson being 14 is a hell of a lot closer to where I'd put him than where most others seem to be. Obviously I'm very high on Henderson. I think he may have Giddens a little high but I've actually kinda warmed to him -- he's an interesting prospect. Definitely think Harvey's too high.

Mostly I don't think he really put much value in durability. If you just presume that every RB on that board gets 12-15 touches/gm, maybe that's how I'd rank them. But he seems to be putting zero value in the ability to take on a little more load.

I keep coming back to Brashard Smith. I get everyone loves Tuten, but man this guy has special stop and start speed. Also good long speed. He was a former WR who switched to RB.

He’d be awesome as a change of place back and on kickoffs. I get we need a 3 down back but this kid could line up all over the field and give us what we haven’t had in a while.

This is exactly what they drafted Clyde for. Same kind of player but this kid can be had in the late 3rd or 4th rd.

This kids start and stop ability reminds me of Tyreek.

We found it guys. We found the prospect that is the best of Pacheco and Kareem.

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YES!

Finally . . . . someone that's on board with me for Smith!

Love the stop and start, the weapon that can be used in the return game, elite potential as a 3rd down back. Great pass catcher, capable blocker (yeah, he's a bit smaller, but actually graded among the top pass blockers at RB along with LeQuint Allen).

Would be a HR pick in round 4, but you'd likely have to take him at 3(95) if you want to be sure. Unless the Chiefs trade back a little from 63 or 66 and gain an extra 4th.

Would LOVE to see this dude in KC RED!!!

Good find! Kid is tough and strong as hell from the looks of it.

I’m 100% with you two! My top preference would be to take a lead back in Henderson and trade Pachecco, but Smith is my favorite complimentary back in the draft. He’d be the perfect gadget player for Andy and McKinnon replacement for Pat!