These tech nerds and their ai are going to destroy the internet aren't they?

You do deserve a pay increase. I'd vote for doubling you CP pay.

The good old days…

https://media.tenor.com/gT6rRoGV4tQA...hehfinance.png

Maybe try moving the site over to Geocities?

Perhaps it's time to do away with non-member lurkers. I've suggested that a few times over the years, but it sounds like it's far worse now than ever before.

Yeah, it's felt like the board is getting pseudo DDoSed all day. Your hypothesis on the bots really checks out.

Problem is that guests can't see the forum AT ALL when guest access is off, and that includes Google's spider. If we leave it off for long, literally no one would ever find us. And while that's not the worst thing in the short term, guests see a lot of ads, and those pay the bills.

I've turned guests off for today because I don't have the time to dig into it at the moment, but eventually it needs to come back on.

:LOL: OK, this did make me laugh out loud, thanks. :thumb:

Fair enough.

What's your problem with AngelFire?

Is it possible to just block IPs from Asia and Russia unless coming from a registered user? That way those bots are all stopped, but the Dongbot can still access the site?

Or does Russia and China now send all their bots through VPNs in the US?

Just dont change the look/interface.

I have seen Twobills and orangemange and I hate it.

We banned the kid probably a dozen times. He's like ****ing herpes.

Seemed a second slow today.

The first A.I. environment I set up for the military in 2010 I needed to give 150 bots permissions manually. It was stupid but “security”. I thought they were FOS back then and still do.

I miss going into Hanson themed chat rooms and using a punter to boot everyone out of them on AOL back when i was 12.

Ah the good ole days.

DaFace, have you ever looked into having it hosted on vBulletin’s cloud?

A/S/L? Pic?

Welp, right back to being sluggish.

Not a computer guy

Could we send guests (bots) to a mirrored read-only version of the site to keep the ads money flowing, and keep the actual CP site to members only?

No.

lol, welp, back to the draft forum I go!

https://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l...59n0o1_500.gif

I booted a bunch of IPs. Hopefully it doesn't catch any legit users.

Was wondering if it was just me having problems the last few days

Apparently not

Can't imagine it's a coincidence that the "sluggishness" went away right after this post.

It's been smooth for me all afternoon after being a hot mess the last few days.

I like it sluggish

still a second slow

Is it weird that I can hear the phone modem squealing in this pic?

No. ROFL

That and the THX sound are core childhood memories LMAO

anyone else having issues (server) or is it me? Slow recall.

Yeah it's bad today. It hasn't been 100% since this thread was started but it's especially bad today.

Started about a week ago for me and thought with clearing my cache and purge of all cookies and IP reset it was some initial DNS issues.

It has only gotten worse.....

At this point, it is what it is. We're inundated with bots, and under our current infrastructure, it's not likely to get better. I'm tired of trying to band-aid it.

Damn buffalo fans.


or is it the Saints fans since they want what we have

For the tech challenged among us, like myself, what exactly is a bot and what do the people who create them get out of it?

I reached out to one of my former co-workers this am that manages the training of bots in A.I..

He went and looked at the Planet. He basically said this software running this place doesn't know how to handle the A.I. bots correctly. It's not the same as the tracer bots Google has been using for a long time. The A.I. bots are designed to learn just like Google but the way it requests and disconnects is different.

Sounds like what we already know or suspect that it was the A.I. learning bots but no solutions besides to throw some more CPU cycles at it to handle the response in a more timely manner.

We need another round of fundraising to get more power to handle theses learning bots? I'll chip in.

Very superficial......


Bots are essential to the internet. Its how we or google request access to a website. The issue all websites are dealing with is the A.I. learning bots. They take longer and take up more CPU cycles on websites. This older software just allows those learning bots to do their thing. Business can time them out. I think this software cant do that or its difficult to do but manually.

I've been bitching to my wife all morning about the Internet. LOL

Is it a money thing? Is there an amount we could donate to eliminate the issue...make a go fund me type thing so we can see the progress?

The website is almost to a point where it is too annoying to use due to the lagging.

The database itself is probably a mess in terms of efficiency and resource management. It's old and I know it has had trouble in the past. The worst thing is that it's a compounding problem. The bots try to open a bunch of connections, which causes the server to burp, which causes the bots to send even more connection requests. There's not a good way to stop it cheaply. You COULD throw money at more CPU and such but it won't fix the problem.

What we really need is for the hosting provider to provide some kind of DDOS protection so that the requests get filtered before they hit the server. But that costs money, considerably more than just upgrading resources.

I will contribute. Lets do it!

Save Our Chiefsplanet.

I’ll donate tree fiddy

Save Our Chiefsplanet.

I’ll donate tree fiddy

Agree, buying CPU's will help but not fix the issue.

Only a new hosting solution will remedy the problem. You need to spend more money to stop the bots like a business is doing. And that costs more money.

RIP Chiefsplanet

Do we need to fly a banner?

I don't want to jump the gun but it's definitely not a good thing.

Is there a good way to invite the current user base to a new platform without someone potentially stealing an identity?

I think it's time to nuke and go with new. There hasn't been a day in the last couple of weeks that I can recall this place not chugging along like I'm on 256K connection.

just tell me where to send my monies.......

Shutting off guest/unregistered access while I work on a few options for killing bot traffic.

There is a simple plugin that may work and if not there is a much harder solution that I will implement.

Leave us alone Mossad, PB is gone!

Maybe migrate to Discourse? discourse.org

Is it noticably faster for everyone?

It's cruising along for me right now.

It's definitely better right this instant.

Yep.

Agreed, right now it's looking a lot better.

The server has been rough but I appreciate hate what Austin, Bearcat etc do for us. It’s a great community

It was when I made that last post. Now it's hung up again.

Yeah I started to make a post saying it was better, but then after hitting "Post Quick Reply" it spun for 30+ seconds and I closed the browser to prevent my apparently inaccurate praise.

Gonna time it on this reply...

This reply took 1 minute, 19 seconds to post.

Yes right now it is working great after a week of slow down. Very nice!

This is the work of broncobuff isn’t it

Yep its hit n miss, 2 clicks might respond in normal time... then 4-5 clicks in a row will take forever

Spoke too soon. Owell I'm still working on the bigger fixes.

Took me 2 hours to donate....

Have you tried rebooting it?

Sent a $100.

It’s gone from MEHHH to Jamaal Charles speed.

Five normal response times in a row now, things are looking up...

Thanks AustinChief. It is improving bit by bit.

I asked this previously, but anyone able to see where the volume and traffic is coming from?
Is it worth building that firewall, blocking traffic from AP & Russia and making ChiefsPlanet great again?

It’s faster now

Server hamster requires more cocaine.

https://forum-en-cdn.warthunder.com/...21f4bcc9af.gif

In AustinChief we trust!!!

It's way better in the last hour or so

Spinnin' like a top now.

It's still hit or miss for me. I will have several minutes of very crisp response times and then it just shits itself for a few minutes after.

Same

(1 minute 10 seconds to submit this reply)