That’s where I am with it. I will say that as long as KC is in the playoffs they will be dangerous until beaten or winning it all. But they can’t afford to continually play as sloppy and expect to make much noise.

Veach as well. The WRs are awful and the tackles suck

Yes!! We’ve got them right where we want them! How can everyone not see this???

I think it is the terrible play leading up to this moment this year that has us out…in the past the Chiefs were playing great ball but had a bad half…this offense rarely has a good half these days…

The offensive scheme is so poor…Nagy is terrible!

Please fire Nagy tonight…have Reid retool the next two weeks and then play the chargers for the division…

Your a non-Belizing MORAN!!!!

The major problems with this offense are at LT and RT…and that’s on Veach. Mahomes can make this WR look good if he has more time in the pocket.

If we somehow manage to beat the Bengals next week, that’ll give us the division.

Any further win by us, or loss by the Broncos gives us the division

He’s had all ****ing day and still can’t throw the ball to wide open guys.

Upgrades at tackle spots
A true #1 wide out
A new OC

If that doesn't happen Veach isn't serious about winning

Lol, welp, this didn't age well at all. yeah, stick a fork in this team, we're done down the drain.

Better luck next season.

Nope no more “Mahomes can make any shit WR look good” failed logic.

Still not giving up on this year.

Anything goes in a single-elimination playoff game. You can look like world beaters all season long, then shit the bed when it matters most. Or you can look like shit all season long, then turn it around in January.

The playoffs are weird like that.

Yes! This is how you matriculate the ball down the field of life, my friends!!

This team isn't winning the SB. If we played the 9ers right now we'd lose 50-7.

No way. We would show up ready to play against the 49ers, Ravens, etc.

IT doesn't matter, we simply don't have the talent or coaching to withstand good teams.

Our tackles cannot pass block, and our WR's either can't get on the same page with Mahomes or can't catch.

That's been the theme this entire season and hasn't changed.

We won't contend for another title until that gets fixed.

How are we going to beat a team that scores more than 20 points?

We have a lot of problems.
Obviously we need a dependable receiver corps. But today Patrick just wouldn’t throw to open guys. This year has gotten under his skin and into his head.
I think Nagy has to move on, scheme is weak

?

We haven’t lost by more than one score to any of the good teams we’ve played this year

After Hill going I think most people thought last year could be the down year, but it looks like it'll be this one.

The offense is so badly broken it's hard to pinpoint blame beyond "all of it". The playcalling, the WRs, the OL, the coaching, Nagy, Mahomes...Andy? I dunno but it's beyond JUST crappy WRs.

All that said I'm kinda relaxed about it now. It is what it is. Nobody wins them all. If we somehow pull it off it'll be a helluva story. If not, we go again next.

Next offseason is the point we can regroup to bitch and moan if Veach doesn't address the offense and if we keep the same coaches. Because we need a clear review and a lot of investment there.

We’ve also played the Eagles and Bills since then as held both to 20 points or less.

Point being: we’ve played against the Lions, Eagles, Bills, Dolphins, Jaguars and Vikings. All good teams. We either won or only lost by one score in each of those.

Yeah, credit the defense; they've been playing exceptionally well all year.


My math is actually incorrect. However, even if we use the correct number, 20.8 points/Game, I don't think it matters. We aren't winning playoff games against the top echelon of NFL teams scoring 20 points/game. Hell, we couldn't score 20 against a historically bad defense today.

Maybe in the '80s/'90s, but not in 2023. If we played SF tomorrow, they run us out of the building, any building, including Arrowhead.

best addition would be to bring EB back once Washington cleans house…

This team has been about as entertaining to watch as watching paint dry. Haven't felt this less enthused for Chiefs games in YEARS

It's a hard watch.

Very little fun being had by the team or fans.

16 PPG since the bye....JFC!!!

The Raiders defense now is far from historically bad. Like the Broncos earlier in the year, they’ve made tons of changes that have led to a huge shift in the product on the field.

I don’t think we should have struggled with them like we did but just adding context.

The team and coaches need to keep their eyes on the prize, finishing as good as possible.

Veach and his scouts and staff should have moved on to the draft, cap, and best FA fits. We, as fans, are allowed to be in both places.

we are in 2024, time for changes and new hope

Good news is the team even in a down year lost 3 games bc of drops and a stupid penalties.

I think Veach is gonna go nuclear with the WR's and weapons and it will be really fun. I just don't know what he's gonna do about LT. That's a hard position to find.

I can see Veach giving up multiple 1sts to move up and get a true #1.

If you’re moving multiple #1’s it’d better be for an established #1 elite WR already in the league….who that could be, I don’t know. I ain’t giving that up to trade for anyone not named Marvin Harrison Jr. and that isn’t happening.

Veach has never gone into an offseason with a dramatic weakness that he hasn’t solved. As embarrassed as we are as fans, imagine how Brett and Andy feel. This is their product and it’s pure garbage, I can assure you neither of them is going to sit back and let it continue next year.

I wouldn't be surprised at all of the Chiefs try to get a tackle with their 1st rd pick. It's that big of a problem.

Could totally see Veach get Mahomes 3 vet receivers in FA and get his tackle in rd 1, then get another weapon in rd 2

We have several glaring weaknesses to address.

WR
DT
LT

That's in addition to re-signing Sneed.

Yeah.

That’s rough. We might done for a while. If we are, it’s sure been amazing.

Every team has similar issues. It's the way parity and salary caps are supposed to work. Plug a hole here, and another opens up elsewhere.

We aren't done. LMAO

WR was a glaring weakness this offseason… especially after losing JuJu… and Veach failed spectacularly to address it.

Not at all. This team is extremely boring to watch

The bad take poster at it again.

It's the same WRs from last year sans JuJu and he drafted Rice

Tackle is a bigger weakness. Mahomes was never comfortable in the pocket this year.

The same bad take that keeps getting recycled by Reerun posters such as yourself.

Saying that it’s the “same WR’s as last year”… minus their leading WR in receptions and receiving yards… means it’s actually not the same WR room as last year.

Nobody except your dumbass would trade Rice for JuJu. How's he doing this year? Oh that's right he's barely even played

The point is the Chiefs are missing a consistently reliable veteran WR presence that they had in JuJu last year.

You are predictably too Reerunned to see that Rice as a rookie WR is being utilized in a far more limited way than JuJu was last year.

Rice is almost exclusively being used on bubble screens… very little production in the downfield passing game.

Every season, an NFL front office and coaching staff has to make decisions, and ALL of those decisions carry risk. It's a hard cap league, so dollars and draft picks are what you have to build a football team, and to win a championship, you need a lot of things to go right.

Almost nothing went right in 2023.

This NFL championship thing is really difficult.

It didn't work this year.

I wouldn't bet against this franchise next year. Would you? I bet they get the ship righted.

Calling this “the same WR room as last year” as if that’s some kind of seal that it was good to begin with is something….becoming more and more clear the WR room played WELL over their skis last season and Mahomes was in full God mode…

KC's chances of winning a SB without Mahomes being in god mode are slim.

Not completely zero, but with his cap hit they are slim.

I would need to see what happens first. There are going to be a lot of tough decisions to make this off season and I haven't even paid attention to what the possible free agents class will be. Today sure seemed like reboot 2.0 needs to be on the way doesn't it? And you're not always going to win it all while rebooting like we did last year but I'll gladly take winning the division and winning a playoff game while we setup to win another super bowl in a few years

I don't see how they don't tag Sneed at the least. They need to pay him. He's our best player on defense currently.

I'm so worried Veach will pay Bolton and not Sneed. Would be a massive mistake to do that

Depends.

I love Sneed, don't get me wrong.

but it depends on what you can get if you were to tag and trade.

Jones is walking, that's almost certain. The defense will likely not be the same. But it can still be a GOOD defense, it just won't be a GREAT defense, most likely.

So much work to do on the other side of the ball.

I am probably close to that POV.

Wasn't before but based on how the season has played out I lean towards keeping Sneed.

It's a passing league and that's a real valuable skillset.

Only way I move on is if we can acquire a #1 WR or pick high enough in the draft to grab one with that asset as the chip.

I would pay Sneed before Jones. As great as it is to have CJ95 wrecking the line, Sneed is a lockdown corner that we can put on an island against any WR. Also, Sneed is versatile.

We're gonna have at least $60 million after cutting MVS and not paying Jones.
I don't think giving $18 million of that to Sneed will deny us a chance of getting some talent at WR.

This team needs to get at least 2 WR's and an athletic RB2 in FA. At least we won't be picking at 31 and closer to 25. That's gonna help a lot in getting a good player in this top heavy draft.

Please tell us reeruns how you really feel and stop beating around the bush!

And don't be afraid to heap on the hyperbole!! :thumb:

We need pragmatic people like you to bring us down from our lofty throne of enjoying the best run in franchise history - put together by our GM who has failed spectacularly!

Yeah a good ol' ass whooping by Buffalo at home is in order. Need Andy and Veach to feel the effects of their garbage choices this year. Also need this team to have fire again. Something to chase.

It also helps us greatly. Picking around 21-22 is way better than late 20's. They can get a legit blue chipper there.

Zay Flowers and Trent McDuffie we're both drafted in that area.

Is there a way we can NOT have the highest paid right tackle in the league?

I think the worst thing about this team isn't the talent deficiency but they're stupid as **** and soft as baby shit.

I agree.

Nope.

We are stuck with him if you look at the contract.

34 million dead cap next year doesn't work.

Next chance is after next year where its 9 million dead cap.

He's a starter next year.

They look drained. Like the 5 straight years of doing what they’ve done has just worn on them.

Whatever. Get to the playoffs and see what happens

Folks will hate me saying this but LT is a glaring problem and Donovan Smith isn't the answer here. He's older and getting hurt. I like Wanya Morris but he looked absolutely horrific yesterday. Not sure I want my faith in him.

They need to look at a LT in the first rd, which there are some quality ones in stock this year at first glance.

They can get WR's in FA to make an instant impact. You can't find a quality LT there. It's early but I'd go after some proven vet receivers, get your LTOTF and then draft another weapon in rd 2.

You don’t get plug and play Left Tackles late 1st round. You usually have to move up. Otherwise it’s just another athlete projection you could also find in 2nd or 3rd.

Or let wayna take his lumps and develop.

don't want to give up on wanya too soon - fisher struggled as a rookie

Move him to LT?

Yup leave him out there and see what happens. 3 games left. But man he was bad on Sunday. I guess everybody was bad though.

Wouldn't be surprised this off season if the Chiefs move Taylor to LT and have him work there and put Morris back at RT. I bet they'll definitely play around with that in training camp and/or preseason.

Perhaps a tad bit too early!!!

To be fair, the late 2023 Chiefs did not look like a Super Bowl squad. The 2024 Chiefs on the other hand.

Good time to bump this. Lot of the same energy as this thread lingering around this week

Well shit, they haven't fixed any of that this season outside of the drops.... gonna be another 40 point loss I'm afraid (did the 49ers go for two after their 7th touchdown? 50 seems odd)