Some of you guys forget that Mahomes has publicly stated that he's going to keep coming back to a player who drops the ball. It's what he did with Rice. It's what he did with Toney.

He just doesn't go to players he has no chemistry with or can't get open...looking at Skyy Moore.

I actually think Toney can produce this year. He’ll bounce back.

Moore needs to be replaced with James ASAP and get Rice more time too

Id rather use James/MVS in packages and have Toney/Rice/Ross in that order be you starters.

Skyy needs to be replaced

Kadarius Toney's PFF grade last night is the worst single-game grade given to a WR since 2018.

PFF is a joke

Replaced with what?

You could have said since 1972 and I wouldn't have been surprised.

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But they're not wrong in this case. Toney caused a 10+ point swing on two drops. He was the MVP for Detroit.

Anything at this point. Dude sucks.

And yet the Chiefs STILL should have been able to hang at least 27 points on the Lions...but Mahomes was under too much pressure. There were times last night when I was having flashbacks to the SB loss to the Bucs--sheesh. The Oline needs to gel sooner rather than later. They weren't awful, and the Lions are an ascending D, but our dudes gotta protect the franchise better.

Patrick was holding the ball too long IMHO. He doesn't seem to trust anyone other than Kelce. Gonna have to find chemistry with these other dudes. Kelce will not always be there.

Ebola.

He may not find chemistry with these dudes...we have a pretty shitty WR room.

The only one who makes any kind of sense in that regard is Rice and 95% of that comes from the fact that he understands what the scramble drill is since he was pretty good at it in college...

The rest of the group seems to really struggle with it but it's an instinctual thing.

Kittle also banged up (as usual).

Front office will need to figure it out if none of the current guys are the right answer. Long term you have to find some acceptable options.

Sadly it looks like the decision to choose Chris Jones over Tyreek Hill is not going to work out, since Jones is likely a goner. Hindsight is 20/20, but if they knew Jones would act like this...they would have already traded Jones and found a way to keep Tyreek.

So far they haven't exactly been great at finding weapons that mesh with Mahomes...

We have whiffed really hard on the higher capital spent on those positions.

Karma is a real thing. Last night felt like the team believed they could just show up and win. Hopefully this is a wake-up call

Serious question.

So has Toney ever been known for having drops before like this?

If he had caught the balls that would have been fairly routine catches for him up to this point, wouldn't he have looked like a number 1 in limited snaps coming back from injury?

So yea, this level of drops isn't tolerable but is there anything in his history to think it will continue?

Has he mentally checked out from focusing before?

I was aware of the long injury history.

Toney definitely channeling his inner Jonathan "Beach Ball" Hayes last night.

So THAT's what happened to his eyebrows?

Whatttttttttt they won the SB lmao

It has nothing to do with Hill, you eventually pay the price for decisions...Helaire and Skyy Moore are the decisions that are ****ing us right now.

Bad draft decisions **** every team every year.

That was 1 season. Long haul, it's not looking great with Jones.

Sure but ****ing up top 45 picks at WR and RB is how you end up going where are our playmakers?

People have short memories.

It wasn't very many games ago, in fact...a very recent game for the Chiefs were we were all celebrating KT. He made some big plays under big lights.

Don't quit on him yet.

It was the same problem with Hill. They can't have a bunch of top paid guys.

One was on the sideline injured and others were with him because of bad personnel decisions.

The playmaker at RB looks like a dude that had a light workload all offseason.

A lot of Week 1 overreacting.

If the Chiefs cut Toney tomorrow they still won the trade. I'm not quitting on him. But he deserves a whole heap of shit for single handedly costing us the game.

Pacheco is a nice find but lets not act like he is gonna be a top 10 back, he isn't THAT guy but he's a good find for when he was taken. The Chiefs ran the ball 17 times if you take out the Mahomes scrambles...4 of them were efficient runs.

Saying our guy was on the sideline is kinda ridiculous, our 33 year old TE shouldn't be the only god damn playmaker on the team.

Also there isn't overreacting anyone with eyes knows that is a bottom tier receiving group. Even with Travis Kelce it's probably somewhere between 17-20...Without him it's more like 29th.

It's a group that mostly hasn't had many snaps. I mean like yeah they're not gonna be crushing pussy out of the gate.

Fart Queche couldn't draft Defense to save his like until suddenly he could.

He's the most talented WR on the roster but played like the worse player last night.

Mahomes can back him publicly but I would not be surprised if he went to Toney and asked him if he wants to ball or not.

Because Toney did not look like he wanted to be out there last night. Scared of getting hit, scared of contact.

It was widely noticeable when Pacheco was on the field and when MEH was on the field. Pacheco's hard running and speed are valuable to us. Even on swing passes Pacheco gets extra yards bc of his speed.

And would you calm your tits already? Kelce is a HOF, Pacheco is a good back, McKinnon is a very good receiving back, MVS made plays, Rice showed a lot of potential in his first game and Toney was open quite a bit even though he dropped passes.

Toney played the worst game of his life. Did he drop a bunch of easy passes last year?

FFS dude this is no worse than last years receiving core. You chicken littles are out of control with this overreaction to on me ****ing game

JFC.. Give them a few games.. Toney didn't have a training camp.. He'll be fine..

A punch in the mouth straight outta the gate might be just what these guys needed

I felt they rushed Toney back once Kelce got hurt. I had not heard anything about Toney being ready to play and then all of a sudden Kelce is hurt and Toney is ready to roll.

He had the second least amount of snaps of any WR iirc. He just happened to get open when he was out there and has Mahomes' trust.

I'm way more worried about Skyy Moore than Toney to be honest. That was likely Toney's worst game of football he has ever played at any level of football and I'm pretty confident he'll bounce back. Wouldn't be surprised if they scheme him up an early screen next game to get his hands back going. Lost his confidence last night but his entire career he's been a solid hands catcher.

Skyy Moore had a full training camp, no injuries and was largely ineffective in his 45 plays last night which led all receivers.

I think our WRs need to just take a breathe, forget last game, and focus on improving for next week. One foot before the other.

Just catch the ****in' ball:cuss:

that guy right now



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lol one loss and suddenly veach can't draft and we should cut the entire WR room

Was it just me, or did it look like Pacheco was running much more timid last night? I didn't see the tough running from last year.

He had two plays i can recall where he did a little more dancing behind the line than usual.

Veach has had some issues with his skill players performing. Just the facts.

Every GM is going to whiff sometimes

Sure, but he's had an incredibly rough time with drafting offensive skill position players.

Hardman: Decent pick, better and worse options around that slot.
CEH: Bust in the first at a position easy to fill with droves of WR talent left on the board.
Moore: Looking far more like a bust than anything else so far. Had the chance to draft far more immediate contributors.
Rice: TBD, although early returns are promising.

He's found some relatively decent pieces through FA and Trade, but he absolutely has to improve at drafting these guys or we're going to have a much harder time sustaining success going forward.

That might be a bit much, but I understand.

I chalked that up to working on be more patient over the offseason. It just didn't seem like he was seeking out contact and finishing plays as physically as he did last year.

Need Tim McGraw to live vicariously through Kadarius and fix this situation.

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Capped with como returning with John Dorsey's dick fully in his mouth again. A true Week 1.

I’d rather have him delete it than responding to all the haters.

This I agree with. They need to forget this game and focus on JAX. Baby steps.

This is the group, save a Mike Evans trade, gotta have goldfish brains and forget the move on.

Moore dropped a few, and I think more than KT, although not an INT for a TD. But Grey and Bell both dropped too. It wasn’t just KTs fault. All the WRs were dropping. Reminded me of the TB Super Bowl

I think they need shock collars. And a blanket party if they drop a ball in the coming games.

Gray was in all game and wasn't too good. He played like not even an average TE. One game but he was a minor let down. Not horrible, not great either.

If Chris Jones feels less significant today. I really don't mind so much. It will work out

daaaaaaammnnn.

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Hopefully he lets this feed the monster and he plays out his ass the rest of the season

Whenever stuff like this happens, I do try to remind myself it doesn't do any good to lash out at the player.

It usually will just make them play worse. There have already probably been idiots who have said terrible things to him on social media. And the reason for it, is that he's denied us the sense of vicarious victory fans get when "our" team wins, which is the most fun part of being a fan.

Yet, it's also an illusion. We really don't have a damn thing to do with what happens on the field (other than the noise we provide that helps disrupt opposing offenses).

He was so in his own head after the pick 6. I think there is a no -zero chance it broke him mentally.

It certainly did for the rest of the game.

I'd like to see KT beat that dude inches from losing his life.

In all likelihood, KT himself would end up on Injured Reserve in the process.

LMAO

The Chiefs wouldn't have Toney on the roster if he couldn't read a playbook.

**** any Giants fan right now trashing Toney. Go get your bottle of Jergens and beat off to Danny Dimes you ****ing losers.

I hear ya, but Toney brought it on himself with his Twitter antics this off season.

Drops aside, is KT even healthy enough to play? I would think that many drops is an outlier but he also looked real slow.

The internet is having a blast roasting the Chiefs. The one with CEH following blockers to the right. While to the left is enough pasture for a herd of goats. Is pretty funny.

It will pass

He is right about one thing. KT's rapping ****ing sucks.

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Yep, and I think at one point he even claimed he had been hacked or some shit after posting bullshit about the Giants? ROFL

I don't blame them for shoveling some of it back after the night he had.... and I'm sure KT is fully aware he deserves it.

Guy looks like an alien. I can't believe he wasn't benched on Thursday.

What were his Twitter or X or whatever antics by the way?

Yep, the recievers as a whole took a runny shit down their legs. I kept hoping that someone would put on their big boy pants and make a play, but it never came. Had it, we would have won.

It's still early, so I'm sure Andy will right the ship and not let this spiral out of control.

Eh he had a terrible week 1. Shit happens. Still got a ring bitch.

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Benched for being ugly?