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saphojunkie 09-05-2023 02:10 PM

Well, here's the bright side:

1. we always needed to take this season and move away from a Kelce-dependent offense. It's the start of the season, and the right time to start working the young guys in, so they are up to speed by the playoffs.

2. Any chance of the team sleepwalking into this home opener is GONE. Upset alert is at Defcon 1

3. WBF

4. He's probably going to play

ptlyon 09-05-2023 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17087667)
they teach you that at dental school?

Shush. He's a dentist. One step below a nurse and one stop ahead of a podiatrist

OnTheWarpath15 09-05-2023 02:12 PM

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O.city 09-05-2023 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17087667)
they teach you that at dental school?

Barber college

DJ's left nut 09-05-2023 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17087682)
Barber college

Potayto, potahto.

KC Hawks 09-05-2023 02:16 PM

Time to tank for Brock Bowers

O.city 09-05-2023 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17087683)
Potayto, potahto.

They're listing him as limited, it's probably not the dreaded thing.

KCUnited 09-05-2023 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17087682)
Barber college

Smart decision staying within the Chiefs Kingdom demographic

saphojunkie 09-05-2023 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 17087687)
Time to tank for Brock Bowers transition to an offense that uses its wide receivers.


fixed it for you

Skyy God 09-05-2023 02:19 PM

This his micro fracture knee??

DJ's left nut 09-05-2023 02:19 PM

A moment of silence during the banner ceremony is going to be really awkward.

Fishels 09-05-2023 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17087675)
Well, here's the bright side:

1. we always needed to take this season and move away from a Kelce-dependent offense. It's the start of the season, and the right time to start working the young guys in, so they are up to speed by the playoffs.

2. Any chance of the team sleepwalking into this home opener is GONE. Upset alert is at Defcon 1

3. WBF

4. He's probably going to play

I’m hoping the team was never going to sleepwalking in. I’m shocked at how many people think this game is an automatic victory.

ptlyon 09-05-2023 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17087682)
Barber college

We shall now call you frenchy

ThaVirus 09-05-2023 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17087652)
Offering my non-extended knee to Kelce

Let's be real here, it would explode on the second or third play from scrimmage lol

ptlyon 09-05-2023 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyy God (Post 17087695)
This his micro fracture knee??

No it's his major fractured knee

saphojunkie 09-05-2023 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishels (Post 17087697)
I’m hoping the team was never going to sleepwalking in. I’m shocked at how many people think this game is an automatic victory.

I don't like the flag going up, the pomp and circumstance of celebrating last season's victory in this season's home opener.

They're going to be laser focused now

Mr. Plow 09-05-2023 02:22 PM

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Rain Man 09-05-2023 02:22 PM

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carcosa 09-05-2023 02:25 PM

Marvin Harrison Jr. is gonna go nuclear in this offense

FloridaMan88 09-05-2023 02:27 PM

The MRI is slower than MEHHHHHHHH.

JFC.

Fishels 09-05-2023 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 17087658)
Maybe Chris could help? I know he hates extensions.

💀💀💀

OnTheWarpath15 09-05-2023 02:29 PM

Who the **** is reading this MRI, Stevie Wonder?

KCUnited 09-05-2023 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17087717)
The MRI is slower than MEHHHHHHHH.

JFC.

And hopefully shows the same amount of burst

O.city 09-05-2023 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 17087723)
Who the **** is reading this MRI, Stevie Wonder?

They've listed him as limited. I'd imagine if it were that serious, Rap or Shefter would have it by now, right?

ptlyon 09-05-2023 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17087717)
The MRI is slower than MEHHHHHHHH.

JFC.

Be patient. This is the worst they've ever seen. Examining it and figuring out a treatment is going to take some time

Bwana 09-05-2023 02:30 PM

If he's borderline, rest him. We are going to need him in week 2.

chiefzilla1501 09-05-2023 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17087675)
Well, here's the bright side:

1. we always needed to take this season and move away from a Kelce-dependent offense. It's the start of the season, and the right time to start working the young guys in, so they are up to speed by the playoffs.

2. Any chance of the team sleepwalking into this home opener is GONE. Upset alert is at Defcon 1

3. WBF

4. He's probably going to play

I’m with you on all points. I want Toney and kelce to play just because we have so many fresh faces and we can ease them in. But **** it… let’s throw them into the fire and ask them to step up instead of expecting kelce to open them up

I’ll add a few more…
- Reid knows how to put these guys in a position to win. Like when we shelved kelce and tyreek during covid. Hard to do multiple weeks but week 1s a spot where gameplanning can catch off guard
- we aren’t desperate. If we lose some early this team is good enough to recover later in the season. Hell, even with jones and kelce I expect this year to be somewhat of a rebuild anyway and I’m actually sorta ok settling for less if it means developing the living hell out of our young players

Marcellus 09-05-2023 02:32 PM

Hey O.city, you are aware most hyperextended knees are non contact injuries right?

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ptlyon 09-05-2023 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 17087727)
If he's borderline, rest him. We are going to need him in week 2.

Against Jacksonville?

Monticore 09-05-2023 02:33 PM

I think non contact is most likely better outcome then direct trauma causing it I could still lead to a tear but the force is normally less than someone hitting /landing on it , at my age I would probably blow every ligament I have .

Eleazar 09-05-2023 02:33 PM

I am anything but hyperextended right now

O.city 09-05-2023 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17087730)
Hey O.city, you are aware most hyperextended knees are non contact injuries right?

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Yeah, most non contact knee injuries result in hyperextension of the knee.

Which usually leads to.....other things.

Monticore 09-05-2023 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17087730)
Hey O.city, you are aware most hyperextended knees are non contact injuries right?

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Direct trauma can hyperextended the knee .

chiefzilla1501 09-05-2023 02:34 PM

I like to think this is going slow not because we don’t know the results but because we have to face a tough decision on whether to play him in 2 days.

O.city 09-05-2023 02:35 PM

They're not gonna let out anything of that nature if it's not serious.

Just GTD it at that point. I'm just waiting to hear on the seriousness side.

Marcellus 09-05-2023 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17087736)
Yeah, most non contact knee injuries result in hyperextension of the knee.

Which usually leads to.....other things.

Yea I'm not so sure about that. Usually when a guy blows out his kneee he is twisting or planting to turn.

Marcellus 09-05-2023 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17087738)
I like to think this is going slow not because we don’t know the results but because we have to face a tough decision on whether to play him in 2 days.

The longer they go without ruling him out the better obviously. (Duh)

ptlyon 09-05-2023 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17087736)

Which usually leads to.....other things.

Like fever, cough, nausea, shortness of breath, and lost of taste.

Right frenchy?

DJ's left nut 09-05-2023 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17087738)
I like to think this is going slow not because we don’t know the results but because we have to face a tough decision on whether to play him in 2 days.

That's why you do the MRI.

If there's any chance of aggravating it or compounding the problem, you sit him. But to know if that's the case, you can't just ask him "How's it feel" because it can feel a little loose without any real structural damage.

But if you get an MRI and there's any structural damage - even if fairly light - that would increase the likelihood of making the injury worse. So now it's not a question of pain tolerance - it's knowing that you really should shut him down, even if it's only a week.

I'm guessing the immediate MRI is to determine how aggressive they can be with his playing status. If he blew it out, we'd know it by now (typically laxity tests will tell you that before you need an MRI) and you probably wouldn't even DO an MRI until after a little swelling subsides in the next few days.

I'm still not too worried here...

Eleazar 09-05-2023 02:38 PM

Meanwhile at the Chiefs practice facility, a lone janitor locks the front door and switches off the lights after the last person leaves the facility for the day. After the thread on ChiefsPlanet did not reach the 1,000 post threshold required for the MRI to be read today, Chiefs staff called a lid until Wednesday afternoon.

OnTheWarpath15 09-05-2023 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17087725)
They've listed him as limited. I'd imagine if it were that serious, Rap or Shefter would have it by now, right?

Technically, he was limited in practice because he didn't finish.

They aren't required to report anything further. Even if they list him as Questionable for the game, it doesn't mean we're in the clear - they could still be debating the results.

DJ's right, we probably don't want news - because that means it's a season ender and no reason to hold info back. Otherwise, they're just playing the mind game and it's frustrating AF.

Monticore 09-05-2023 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17087745)
That's why you do the MRI.

If there's any chance of aggravating it or compounding the problem, you sit him. But to know if that's the case, you can't just ask him "How's it feel" because it can feel a little loose without any real structural damage.

But if you get an MRI and there's any structural damage - even if fairly light - that would increase the likelihood of making the injury worse. So now it's not a question of pain tolerance - it's knowing that you really should shut him down, even if it's only a week.

I'm guessing the immediate MRI is to determine how aggressive they can be with his playing status. If he blew it out, we'd know it by now (typically laxity tests will tell you that before you need an MRI) and you probably wouldn't even DO an MRI until after a little swelling subsides in the next few days.

I'm still not too worried here...

If he wasn’t ruled out on the spot I would assume your looking a grade 1-2 sprain or better

MagicHef 09-05-2023 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17087745)
That's why you do the MRI.

If there's any chance of aggravating it or compounding the problem, you sit him. But to know if that's the case, you can't just ask him "How's it feel" because it can feel a little loose without any real structural damage.

But if you get an MRI and there's any structural damage - even if fairly light - that would increase the likelihood of making the injury worse. So now it's not a question of pain tolerance - it's knowing that you really should shut him down, even if it's only a week.

I'm guessing the immediate MRI is to determine how aggressive they can be with his playing status. If he blew it out, we'd know it by now (typically laxity tests will tell you that before you need an MRI) and you probably wouldn't even DO an MRI until after a little swelling subsides in the next few days.

I'm still not too worried here...

I'm no knee scientist, is it possible to hyperextend the knee without light damage? It seems like something is getting pushed beyond where it should be for the hyperextension to be possible.

Bwana 09-05-2023 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17087733)
Against Jacksonville?


Yep, they played us tough in the playoffs. I expect that will be a harder game than the Lions.

DJ's left nut 09-05-2023 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 17087751)
I'm no knee scientist, is it possible to hyperextend the knee without light damage? It seems like something is getting pushed beyond where it should be for the hyperextension to be possible.

I had one playing baseball in my teens. Got hit at home; hyperextended it. It was sore but I played the next day. It really felt more than anything like a bone bruise but the knee felt fairly stable, fairly quickly.

I wasn't 35, though - may be a different animal.

Monticore 09-05-2023 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 17087751)
I'm no knee scientist, is it possible to hyperextend the knee without light damage? It seems like something is getting pushed beyond where it should be for the hyperextension to be possible.

Mahomes dislocated his patellar without any real damage , I mean sprains are technically damage to varying degree and risks

Chief Pagan 09-05-2023 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by KC Hawks View Post
Time to tank for Brock Bowers transition to an offense that uses its wide receivers

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17087692)
fixed it for you

Oh my god why don’t we have a WR1!!!

OnTheWarpath15 09-05-2023 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 17087751)
I'm no knee scientist, is it possible to hyperextend the knee without light damage? It seems like something is getting pushed beyond where it should be for the hyperextension to be possible.

Sounds like a bone bruise and a capsular sprain is bare minimum with a hyperextension.

O.city 09-05-2023 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 17087749)
Technically, he was limited in practice because he didn't finish.

They aren't required to report anything further. Even if they list him as Questionable for the game, it doesn't mean we're in the clear - they could still be debating the results.

DJ's right, we probably don't want news - because that means it's a season ender and no reason to hold info back. Otherwise, they're just playing the mind game and it's frustrating AF.

I figured we'd get a "no structural damage" from someone atleast.

lewdog 09-05-2023 02:44 PM

OCity bringing his doctor knowledge out today!

Good to have you here Doc!

OnTheWarpath15 09-05-2023 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17087753)
I had one playing baseball in my teens. Got hit at home; hyperextended it. It was sore but I played the next day. It really felt more than anything like a bone bruise but the knee felt fairly stable, fairly quickly.

*I wasn't 35, though*- may be a different animal.

You also weren't carrying 265 pounds on your frame when that knee bent.

DJ's left nut 09-05-2023 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 17087754)
Mahomes dislocated his patellar without any real damage , I mean sprains are technically damage to varying degree and risks

I'm at week 6 in a walking boot with some new hardware in my ankle over what is really just the mother of all high ankle sprains (syndesmosis ligaments had a bad time).

'sprain' is about the most worthless diagnosis that exists these days.

DJ's left nut 09-05-2023 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 17087761)
You also weren't carrying 265 pounds on your frame when that knee bent.

This is true.

I'm just saying it CAN happen.

ptlyon 09-05-2023 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17087753)

I wasn't 35, though - may be a different animal.

It is. You're not Travis Kelce.

OnTheWarpath15 09-05-2023 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17087763)
This is true.

I'm just saying it CAN happen.

No doubt - I understand the gamesmanship part of this, but **** me - at least tell us there's no structural damage and lets get on with it.

New World Order 09-05-2023 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17087759)
OCity bringing his doctor knowledge out today!

Good to have you here Doc!

Does he know Dr. Chao?

OnTheWarpath15 09-05-2023 02:49 PM

ESPN pushing out 10 fantasy notifications in the last 30 minutes about everyone other than Kelce is annoying to say the least.

Eleazar 09-05-2023 02:49 PM

Chiefs don't owe us anything. If Kelce is totally fine and a green light for Thursday night, they should do exactly what they are doing and list him as GTD and say nothing else.

ptlyon 09-05-2023 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17087762)
I'm at week 6 in a walking boot with some new hardware in my ankle over what is really just the mother of all high ankle sprains (syndesmosis ligaments had a bad time).

'sprain' is about the most worthless diagnosis that exists these days.

Sounds like being anywhere other than in a padded room ain't your thing

Bump 09-05-2023 02:49 PM

damn hope he recovers quick

TLO 09-05-2023 02:51 PM

CAN WE GET A ****ING UPDATE?????

staylor26 09-05-2023 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17087776)
CAN WE GET A ****ING UPDATE?????

Update: we have no update

There you go!

Fishels 09-05-2023 02:53 PM

https://x.com/rapsheet/status/169916...q1JdPhn3NHJAOg

Update^^

Urc Burry 09-05-2023 02:53 PM

Shouldn’t be long term according to Rap

wazu 09-05-2023 02:53 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> star TE Travis Kelce’s status is in doubt for Thursday night’s opener vs. the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Lions?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Lions</a> because of his knee injury, but sources tell me and <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TomPelissero</a> it’s not believed to be a long-term injury. They’ll wait for swelling to go down and go from there. <a href="https://t.co/pzuOYz2wt2">pic.twitter.com/pzuOYz2wt2</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1699162105457312228?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

wazu 09-05-2023 02:54 PM

Big exhale.

ptlyon 09-05-2023 02:55 PM

BUT WHERE'S THE ****ING MRI?

KC_Connection 09-05-2023 02:56 PM

Mahomes would have carried this team to wins anyway, but it's a relief to know it's not a long-term thing. Having Kelce around come playoff time makes things a hell of a lot easier.

Jerok 09-05-2023 02:57 PM

Tank for Caleb, but trade him for 3 first round draft picks to the Rams, proceed to draft Marvin Harrison jr, a LT, and an edge. Trade CJ for another first and draft a DL. We good boyos

Monticore 09-05-2023 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17087763)
This is true.

I'm just saying it CAN happen.

The MRI could be negative and he still might not play or it could be a small tear and still play , troubleshooting the human body over the internet is freaking hard lol.

O.city 09-05-2023 02:58 PM

Oh you mean there's the tweet from Rap and Peli? Almost like I knew it would come?

Everyone get in here to eat some shit. I've got 2 fists full and their rated E for everyone.

chiefzilla1501 09-05-2023 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17087745)
That's why you do the MRI.

If there's any chance of aggravating it or compounding the problem, you sit him. But to know if that's the case, you can't just ask him "How's it feel" because it can feel a little loose without any real structural damage.

But if you get an MRI and there's any structural damage - even if fairly light - that would increase the likelihood of making the injury worse. So now it's not a question of pain tolerance - it's knowing that you really should shut him down, even if it's only a week.

I'm guessing the immediate MRI is to determine how aggressive they can be with his playing status. If he blew it out, we'd know it by now (typically laxity tests will tell you that before you need an MRI) and you probably wouldn't even DO an MRI until after a little swelling subsides in the next few days.

I'm still not too worried here...

Yeah, my point is that this happening right before game time makes them extra careful about communicating. They’ll take a little more time before even hinting at a leak. Way different to say “we’re being cautious” versus “we’re so confident he’s fine that he’s clear to play in 48 hours

Monticore 09-05-2023 03:00 PM

Not optimal star t to season so far .

TripleThreat 09-05-2023 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17087795)
Oh you mean there's the tweet from Rap and Peli? Almost like I knew it would come?

Everyone get in here to eat some shit. I've got 2 fists full and their rated E for everyone.

Pretty sure Prison Bitch gonna want the T for Teen Version though.

New World Order 09-05-2023 03:03 PM

I think the MRI Machine is broken

TLO 09-05-2023 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17087776)
CAN WE GET A ****ING UPDATE?????

This was good timing

BryanBusby 09-05-2023 03:07 PM

WBF

Let that revampled OLine do some work and pound it right up their asses with Pikachu.

CapsLockKey 09-05-2023 03:09 PM

Freaky timing on how on their most recent Kelce podcast they were talking about having Gumby knees.

dirk digler 09-05-2023 03:09 PM

Time for Noah to step up. Let's see what he has got.

Balto 09-05-2023 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17087769)
Does he know Dr. Chao?

Yes, he is his dentist.


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