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Mecca 04-28-2023 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 16924490)
Then why didn’t anything about Rice trickle out? Just not a big enough name for the media to care?

I'm assuming the people filming that were told not to film him.

OnTheWarpath15 04-28-2023 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16924376)
He's something between what Sammy Watkins was and what he was supposed to be.

The only real concern is route tree stuff. He's gonna have to refine his. But he has the physical tools to be worth the patience, IMO.

And when Moore and Rice go for 1,000 yards each someday, so will end the great WR wars of 2022-23 and we'll just elephant walk our way through the Arrowhead parking lot.

Now I know DJ has been hacked - I know he doesn't think Moore will go for 1000.

Chiefspants 04-28-2023 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 16924452)
Really, who exactly should we be comparing players to if not well known NFL players?

Chiefsplanet members. Rice was just lucky his high school coach gave him the playing time that our coaches refused to give us. Otherwise, we'd be right there - dropping fastballs from Patrick Mahomes, too.

TwistedChief 04-28-2023 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 16924490)
Then why didn’t anything about Rice trickle out? Just not a big enough name for the media to care?

Probably part of it. Everyone was all over the daily routines of Johnston and Flowers. Second round receivers not nearly as sexy.

The Franchise 04-28-2023 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16924496)
Now I know DJ has been hacked - I know he doesn't think Moore will go for 1000.

He did say "someday".

Chris Meck 04-28-2023 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16924496)
Now I know DJ has been hacked - I know he doesn't think Moore will go for 1000.

LOLZ


He's pumped. He loves Rice. I do, too. I'm pumped, too.

Of course, I still think Moore is going to be good.

TEX 04-28-2023 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 16924315)
I just told staylor, its not about the player, its about the pick and spending draft picks to move up.

Exactly. But I like the pick.

BigRedChief 04-28-2023 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16924484)
Workout aint a game and Mahomes also wanted CEH. So...

So you don’t think Mahomes threw him the fastball during the workout?

booger 04-28-2023 07:57 PM

Great catch radius with those long arms. Will catch passes like a WR 2-3” taller because of that and also help getting off press. Shane Buechele is familiar with him I’m sure. Haven’t looked up if they played a year together or just missed but there’s that connection even being a small one

staylor26 04-28-2023 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16924496)
Now I know DJ has been hacked - I know he doesn't think Moore will go for 1000.

He got possessed by my spirit for a brief moment.

The Franchise 04-28-2023 07:58 PM

I love the "Mahomes wanted CEH" bullshit like it's remotely the same thing. He didn't work out with CEH...he just offered his opinion on him. But people have to be ****ing stupid.

FloridaMan88 04-28-2023 07:59 PM

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jd1020 04-28-2023 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16924510)
So you don’t think Mahomes threw him the fastball during the workout?

I dont know what he threw him or how intense the workout was, do you?

I dont give a flying **** about what happened in a workout. How many training camps do you have to go through where some dude is hyped up the entire time to only turn out to be the shit everyone knew he was?

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KCUnited 04-28-2023 08:02 PM

Just thinking about the Moore Rice formation has me hungry again 2 plays later

HC_Chief 04-28-2023 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 16924452)
Really, who exactly should we be comparing players to if not well known NFL players?

Probably not this past year's Offense Player of the Year, all pro WR KC has been linked to acquiring, and a HoF WR. That over the top hyperbole is ridiculous.

Twisted nailed it: this WR class is packed with smaller receivers; we went and got the bigger guy who we think can convert on tough downs. Aka JuJu++. Solid pick.

chiefzilla1501 04-28-2023 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16924469)
He's a true 'X' receiver. On the line, wide, physical, tough kid. You don't have to line him up off the line to get him a release.

I'm telling you, you guys are going to love this kid.

I haven’t seen a whole lot of the guy. I just want a good wr. If youve seen a lot of him and like him, I’m on board

Chiefspants 04-28-2023 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 16924547)
Probably not this past year's Offense Player of the Year, all pro WR KC has been linked to acquiring, and a HoF WR. That over the top hyperbole is ridiculous.

Twisted nailed it: this WR class is packed with smaller receivers; we went and got the bigger guy who we think can convert on tough downs. Aka JuJu++. Solid pick.

I think it's just funny when people bring this up. This is the draft -- it's always fun to think about the potential of these players -- and hell, Veach has proven that it's worth doing -- just look at his picks who did end up being the best case scenario.

Or you know, we could be like "what do this guy's numbers look like against JON BALDWIN'S?"

Chris Meck 04-28-2023 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16924526)
I dont know what he threw him or how intense the workout was, do you?

I dont give a flying **** about what happened in a workout. How many training camps do you have to go through where some dude is hyped up the entire time to only turn out to be the shit everyone knew he was?

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Dude...what are you even talking about? Listen to yourself. Do you think you make sense?

Did you have your mind set on a different player or something?

This is not some shitty practice squad guy.

You're not being reasonable.

Chris Meck 04-28-2023 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16924557)
I haven’t seen a whole lot of the guy. I just want a good wr. If youve seen a lot of him and like him, I’m on board

I've seen a bunch, I did a deep dive on him about a month ago.

Just watch the first highlight reel in the OP here. It's like three minutes. Watch that, and then you'll have an idea of the kid.

|Zach| 04-28-2023 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 16924547)
Probably not this past year's Offense Player of the Year, all pro WR KC has been linked to acquiring, and a HoF WR. That over the top hyperbole is ridiculous.

Twisted nailed it: this WR class is packed with smaller receivers; we went and got the bigger guy who we think can convert on tough downs. Aka JuJu++. Solid pick.

Ok man, what a hill to die on. Go on King. Looking forward to you draft analysis comparing players that nobody has ever heard of to gain more understanding of a draft pick. LMAOLMAO

This WR is in the style of Dante Northcraft!

Who? I dunno...nobody knows look it up in a book.

BigCatDaddy 04-28-2023 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16924561)
Dude...what are you even talking about? Listen to yourself. Do you think you make sense?

Did you have your mind set on a different player or something?

This is not some shitty practice squad guy.

You're not being reasonable.

I thought he was a Patriots fan.

jd1020 04-28-2023 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16924561)
Dude...what are you even talking about? Listen to yourself. Do you think you make sense?

Did you have your mind set on a different player or something?

This is not some shitty practice squad guy.

You're not being reasonable.

I dont have my heart set on anyone. I dont care to eat sleep and breath college football and dissect the pros and cons of draft prospects for no reason whatsoever.

My only info on the this guy comes from the OP and I've learned he has elite jumping ability to pair with no separation and questionable hands. But, I'm supposed to believe there's no warts, I guess.

Kiimo 04-28-2023 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 16924454)
One thing I really like from watching him right now is they have him out wide majority of the time. This guy is no stranger to having DBs at his hip regularly. In a way he's the anti Hyatt - faces contact regularly and even dare I say, thrives off it. Like he demoralizes DBs because he's making his catches in SPITE of them and their best efforts. Also, something no ones talking about is his YAC ability, boy can he make guys miss. I am definitely seeing the Sammy Watkins comps.


He has a lot of contested catches which gives me alarm bells because some guys who get a lot of contested catches just do so because they can't get separation.

But I made that mistake predicting Drake London would be a bust. It's not a perfect theory.

HC_Chief 04-28-2023 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 16924578)
Ok man, what a hill to die on. Go on King. Looking forward to you draft analysis comparing players that nobody has ever heard of to gain more understanding of a draft pick. LMAOLMAO

This WR is in the style of Dante Northcraft!

Who? I dunno...nobody knows look it up in a book.

:spock:
Are you ****ing reeruned?
Okay. Let's play your game.
OH MAH GERRRRD. WE DUN DRAFTED JERRY RICE AND RANDY MOSS IN A SINGLE BODY! BESTEST PICK EVARRRRR. Huururrrrrrr

fat**** shithead

Chris Meck 04-28-2023 08:13 PM

Yeah, let me be clear-

I have no idea if Rice will have a Hopkins like career. I'd like to think with Mahomes and Reid he's got about the best situation you could ask for, but shit happens.

When I compare him to Hopkins, I'm saying when you look at his tape, that's the player he most reminds me of. Same size, same style, same aggressiveness going for the ball. He looks like Hopkins.

Just like with Mingo, I watched his tape and thought-He looks and plays just like AJ Brown. I'm not saying he's as GOOD of an NFL receiver as Brown. I'm saying that he's similar size, style, and plays like that type of receiver. He's an AJ Brown-style receiver.

I find it helpful to figure out how guys might fit in a specific offense. That's all.

What's he like? Oh, he's kind of a Hopkins style receiver. To me, I have an idea of what that is.

Wallcrawler 04-28-2023 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16924445)
Dont know shit about shit when it comes to a single player in the draft, but from the breakdown of struggling with drops and even in these highlight clips like half of the catches arent clean, is this guy going to be able to handle a Mahomes fastball?

Apparently he handled enough of them for Mahomes to tell Veach to go get him.

You miss the part where Mahomes was throwing with him or what.

staylor26 04-28-2023 08:15 PM

People literally think anybody that has ever dropped a ball has bad hands.

kcfan75 04-28-2023 08:16 PM

I want to grab Trey Palmer in a later round, that dude is a beast.

Sent from my SM-S901U using Tapatalk

Chris Meck 04-28-2023 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16924587)
I dont have my heart set on anyone. I dont care to eat sleep and breath college football and dissect the pros and cons of draft prospects for no reason whatsoever.

My only info on the this guy comes from the OP and I've learned he has elite jumping ability to pair with no separation and questionable hands. But, I'm supposed to believe there's no warts, I guess.

Or you could watch the ****ing tape that the OP put right there, and look with your own eyes. Just sayin'.

You're being ridiculous. You've latched on to ONE tweet that somebody said.

ALL of these receivers have warts, that's why they kept saying it was a weak class.

It's not, really, there was just ONE guy in Smith-Nigba that was clearly first tier. All of the rest have questions.

This guy does, too. But your take is silly.

Iowanian 04-28-2023 08:18 PM

Moss is a good pickup by a team that will continue to get torched by my favorite football team, the Kansas City Chiefs.

Riley...Caseys pizza used to be good, now it sucks.

|Zach| 04-28-2023 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 16924600)
:spock:
Are you ****ing reeruned?
Okay. Let's play your game.
OH MAH GERRRRD. WE DUN DRAFTED JERRY RICE AND RANDY MOSS IN A SINGLE BODY! BESTEST PICK EVARRRRR. Huururrrrrrr

fat**** shithead

Literally nobody is doing that.

I am sorry you are so mad and can't understand comparing someone to Jerry Rice does not mean they think they will be a HOF and one of the best WR of all times it means that NFL players exhibit certain styles and traits and those are things you can see and compare amongst different players.

This is the most simple thing in the world that everyone understands but you.

booger 04-28-2023 08:20 PM

Rice played 2019-20 as a freshman and sophomore with Buchele

ArrowHeader 04-28-2023 08:20 PM

I don’t hate this.

chiefzilla1501 04-28-2023 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16924618)
People literally think anybody that has ever dropped a ball has bad hands.

That isn’t the issue. From the sound of it dude has a habit of catching with his body which is different. Hopefully plenty coachable

jd1020 04-28-2023 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16924622)
Or you could watch the ****ing tape that the OP put right there, and look with your own eyes. Just sayin'.

You're being ridiculous. You've latched on to ONE tweet that somebody said.

ALL of these receivers have warts, that's why they kept saying it was a weak class.

It's not, really, there was just ONE guy in Smith-Nigba that was clearly first tier. All of the rest have questions.

This guy does, too. But your take is silly.

You'll have to forgive me for not putting much stock in highlight reels from the American Athletic Conference.

Wallcrawler 04-28-2023 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16924526)
I dont know what he threw him or how intense the workout was, do you?

I dont give a flying **** about what happened in a workout. How many training camps do you have to go through where some dude is hyped up the entire time to only turn out to be the shit everyone knew he was?

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So, firsthand experience throwing to the player by the TWO TIME league MVP and TWO TIME superbowl MVP is just to be discarded then. Means nothing, in your view.

Either you're being intentionally obtuse to annoy some folks, or you're exceptionally ****ing reeruned.

I'd suggest trolling elsewhere and perhaps with better technique.

Or, if you really believe what you're posting, simply drink some antifreeze and lie down in the corner.

BWillie 04-28-2023 08:24 PM

Correct me if Im wrong but I seem to recall Mahomes wanting them to draft CEH. They did. Wanted them to draft Skyy. They did. Now he wanted them to draft this guy. Mahomes GM

jspchief 04-28-2023 08:24 PM

I think he has good NFL potential with his strength being jump balls. That said, I don't think a jump ball receiver is the best fit for Mahomes. Would probably be a better fit for another QB/team.

Chris Meck 04-28-2023 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16924667)
You'll have to forgive me for not putting much stock in highlight reels from the American Athletic Conference.

but you will a tweet?

I mean, you can literally watch the kid for a few minutes, or you can read one tweet while dismissing other tweets that say they like the kid.

Watch the kid play, man. Then listen to what Mahomes said. And what Veach says. And maybe give that all more weight than some dipshit that's twatting.

Chris Meck 04-28-2023 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 16924679)
I think he has good NFL potential with his strength being jump balls. That said, I don't think a jump ball receiver is the best fit for Mahomes. Would probably be a better fit for another QB/team.

Well, apparently Mahomes feels differently.

jd1020 04-28-2023 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16924688)
but you will a tweet?

I mean, you can literally watch the kid for a few minutes, or you can read one tweet while dismissing other tweets that say they like the kid.

Watch the kid play, man. Then listen to what Mahomes said. And what Veach says. And maybe give that all more weight than some dipshit that's twatting.

What tweet do you keep referencing? I literally told your dumbass the info I've received on this guy came from the OP.

booger 04-28-2023 08:29 PM

Not while Detroit was on the clock but after or before you could guess they could find out what they are asking for the RB Swift if KC is interested which who knows

Wisconsin_Chief 04-28-2023 08:29 PM

“I think I know football better than Veach and Mahomes.”

That’s what some of you sound like. Is that the role you want to play?

Chris Meck 04-28-2023 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16924663)
That isn’t the issue. From the sound of it dude has a habit of catching with his body which is different. Hopefully plenty coachable

If you would WATCH THE ****ING TAPE you'll wonder what the **** that numbnuts was even talking about in that tweet. Morons tweet. Just because some asshole had an opinion doesn't mean it's right.

Rice attacks the ball with his hands, he's not a body clutcher.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Bump 04-28-2023 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16924559)
I think it's just funny when people bring this up. This is the draft -- it's always fun to think about the potential of these players -- and hell, Veach has proven that it's worth doing -- just look at his picks who did end up being the best case scenario.

Or you know, we could be like "what do this guy's numbers look like against JON BALDWIN'S?"

fun fact: the only player the Chiefs drafted in the 1st round that I was 90% sure was going to be a bust was Baldwin. That really pissed some people off 'round here tho.

Kiimo 04-28-2023 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16924674)
Correct me if Im wrong but I seem to recall Mahomes wanting them to draft CEH. They did. Wanted them to draft Skyy. They did. Now he wanted them to draft this guy. Mahomes GM


The Skyy Moore one is news to me I don't think that happened

BigRedChief 04-28-2023 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 16924704)
“I think I know football better than Veach and Mahomes.”

That’s what some of you sound like. Is that the role you want to play?

No shit. Mahomes ain’t calling all our draft picks to immediately congrat and welcome to the team.

Rasputin 04-28-2023 08:33 PM

He will break every Jerry Rice record

HC_Chief 04-28-2023 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 16924648)
Literally nobody is doing that.

I am sorry you are so mad and can't understand comparing someone to Jerry Rice does not mean they think they will be a HOF and one of the best WR of all times it means that NFL players exhibit certain styles and traits and those are things you can see and compare amongst different players.

This is the most simple thing in the world that everyone understands but you.

Oh, okay, so casual comparisons is what we're referring to? Ahh, I see. So Rice once wore a number that was shared by a Hall of Fame NFL wide receiver? COMPARES TO THAT GUY!!!1!

Got it.

Breathes air... "compares to _______". BOOM! Amazeballs.
Once wore red... "next Jerry Rice!!!" *gasp, swoon*

OR... wait for it... you can NOT be a hyperbolic bitch and try to be realistic.

Bottom line, Veach, Reid, and Company have been A M A Z I N G. They deserve total and complete trust... unlike dumbshits posting online (present company included - including myself here).

Bump 04-28-2023 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 16924730)
Oh, okay, so casual comparisons is what we're referring to? Ahh, I see. So Rice once wore a number that was shared by a Hall of Fame NFL wide receiver? COMPARES TO THAT GUY!!!1!

Got it.

Breathes air... "compares to _______". BOOM! Amazeballs.
Once wore red... "next Jerry Rice!!!" *gasp, swoon*

OR... wait for it... you can NOT be a hyperbolic bitch and try to be realistic.

Bottom line, Veach, Reid, and Company have been A M A Z I N G. They deserve total and complete trust... unlike dumbshits posting online (present company included - including myself here).

Zach must have never watched Jerry Rice because I don't see it in the film of Rashee Rice.

They got the same last name and play same position though

jspchief 04-28-2023 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16924694)
Well, apparently Mahomes feels differently.

Risky throws in workouts don't cost anything. Risky throws in games can cost a lot. Since Mahomes' bad INT stretch he has become much more stingy with those types of throws.

I'm not claim8ng that's Rice's only value. Bit it does seem to be his strength and I just don't think Mahomes is going to throw him a lot off balls that require him to make contested catches.

|Zach| 04-28-2023 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 16924730)
Oh, okay, so casual comparisons is what we're referring to? Ahh, I see. So Rice once wore a number that was shared by a Hall of Fame NFL wide receiver? COMPARES TO THAT GUY!!!1!

Got it.

Breathes air... "compares to _______". BOOM! Amazeballs.
Once wore red... "next Jerry Rice!!!" *gasp, swoon*

OR... wait for it... you can NOT be a hyperbolic bitch and try to be realistic.

Bottom line, Veach, Reid, and Company have been A M A Z I N G. They deserve total and complete trust... unlike dumbshits posting online (present company included - including myself here).

You are so mad over a thing that everyone else does and thinks is fine but you because you don't understand it.

It is hilarious.

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Chris Meck 04-28-2023 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 16924730)
Oh, okay, so casual comparisons is what we're referring to? Ahh, I see. So Rice once wore a number that was shared by a Hall of Fame NFL wide receiver? COMPARES TO THAT GUY!!!1!

Got it.

Breathes air... "compares to _______". BOOM! Amazeballs.
Once wore red... "next Jerry Rice!!!" *gasp, swoon*

OR... wait for it... you can NOT be a hyperbolic bitch and try to be realistic.

Bottom line, Veach, Reid, and Company have been A M A Z I N G. They deserve total and complete trust... unlike dumbshits posting online (present company included - including myself here).

Dude. What the ****?

Do you not see a player's size and playing style and compare it to other guys?

I mean, Tyreek Hill is nothing like Jerry Rice. AJ Brown nothing like Deandre Hopkins.

So as an explanation when someone asks what a player they haven't seen is like, you pick a guy who's got a similar style and use that as a comp.

You're acting like that's ridiculous, but it's really not. Nobody's saying they're going to be as successful in the NFL, they're just saying this is the "TYPE" of player.

Nothing to do with ****ing uniform colors or whatever. This is dumb.

|Zach| 04-28-2023 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 16924736)
Zach must have never watched Jerry Rice because I don't see it in the film of Rashee Rice.

They got the same last name and play same position though

Boy, it is tiring explaining simple things to you.

I am not saying our new draft pick is like Jerry Rice.

Bump 04-28-2023 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 16924745)
You are so mad over a thing that everyone else does and thinks is fine but you because you don't understand it.

It is hilarious.

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he's just mad that wide receivers with the last name Rice exist and wants to be a victim, amiright

Chris Meck 04-28-2023 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 16924740)
Risky throws in workouts don't cost anything. Risky throws in games can cost a lot. Since Mahomes' bad INT stretch he has become much more stingy with those types of throws.

I'm not claim8ng that's Rice's only value. Bit it does seem to be his strength and I just don't think Mahomes is going to throw him a lot off balls that require him to make contested catches.

Yeah, you should probably get with Mahomes and tell him that. I'm sure he'd be grateful for the pointer, uncle Rico.

Hammock Parties 04-28-2023 08:40 PM

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Bump 04-28-2023 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 16924760)
Boy, it is tiring explaining simple things to you.

I am not saying our new draft pick is like Jerry Rice.

I should hope not, there's nothing about his game that is even remotely similar to Jerry Rice.

|Zach| 04-28-2023 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16924748)
Dude. What the ****?

Do you not see a player's size and playing style and compare it to other guys?

I mean, Tyreek Hill is nothing like Jerry Rice. AJ Brown nothing like Deandre Hopkins.

So as an explanation when someone asks what a player they haven't seen is like, you pick a guy who's got a similar style and use that as a comp.

You're acting like that's ridiculous, but it's really not. Nobody's saying they're going to be as successful in the NFL, they're just saying this is the "TYPE" of player.

Nothing to do with ****ing uniform colors or whatever. This is dumb.

It is great. He thinks when you compare players to other players you should reference...I don't know....bad players that nobody has heard of?

He absolutely going to die on this hill and nobody else understands why? Everyone does these comparisons it seems he is just too stupid to understand what people are saying when they do so.

Bump 04-28-2023 08:42 PM

DeMarcus Robinson once 'Moss'd' a Raiders DB. If you see that highlight you'd be like "damn he plays like Randy Moss"

HC_Chief 04-28-2023 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16924748)
Dude. What the ****?

Do you not see a player's size and playing style and compare it to other guys?

I mean, Tyreek Hill is nothing like Jerry Rice. AJ Brown nothing like Deandre Hopkins.

So as an explanation when someone asks what a player they haven't seen is like, you pick a guy who's got a similar style and use that as a comp.

You're acting like that's ridiculous, but it's really not. Nobody's saying they're going to be as successful in the NFL, they're just saying this is the "TYPE" of player.

Nothing to do with ****ing uniform colors or whatever. This is dumb.

I see size, speed, measurements can be equated, for sure. What I think is ridiculous is thinking "this guy is same size as ______" = obvious comp. It is ridiculous. FFS, Justin Jefferson was the NFL Offensive Player of the Year. D'Andre Hopkins is a legitimate NFL all-pro year after year. ROD SMITH is a Hall of Famer. These are the guys to which this second round pick out of SMU, that few had on their draft board this high btw, are being compared. Come on. Bruh. The breathless hyperbole is ridiculous. That is all I have pointed out, yet fatass zach thinks "nah, that's not hyperbole, it's totally legit to comapre this kid out of a Div 2 (arguably) school = comparable to a Hall of Fame player".

jspchief 04-28-2023 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16924773)
Yeah, you should probably get with Mahomes and tell him that. I'm sure he'd be grateful for the pointer, uncle Rico.

Yeah I don't really need affirmation on my opinion from Mahomes. It's just a simple opinion that I could be proven wrong on. And to be honest, Mahomes is an exceptional QB, that doesn't make him an exceptional talent scout. Case in point, CEH. So it's not like it's some type of mic drop that Mahomes likes the guy.

RealSNR 04-28-2023 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 16924326)
JFC, Jefferson, Hopkins, ...Rod Smith?! These comps are ridiculous. I sure hope Rice can live up to this, but come on, let's not get too crazy before we see him play. If he turns out to be what some of you are saying, this pick will be THE pick of the 2023 draft.

Rod Smith?

Shit! This guy must ****ing suck!

|Zach| 04-28-2023 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 16924820)
I see size, speed, measurements can be equated, for sure. What I think is ridiculous is thinking "this guy is same size as ______" = obvious comp. It is ridiculous. FFS, Justin Jefferson was the NFL Offensive Player of the Year. D'Andre Hopkins is a legitimate NFL all-pro year after year. ROD SMITH is a Hall of Famer. These are the guys to which this second round pick out of SMU, that few had on their draft board this high btw, are being compared. Come on. Bruh. The breathless hyperbole is ridiculous. That is all I have pointed out, yet fatass zach thinks "nah, that's not hyperbole, it's totally legit to comapre this kid out of a Div 2 (arguably) school = comparable to a Hall of Fame player".

People are comparing players and you are banging your hooves against your keyboard crying about it. :)

Bump 04-28-2023 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 16924822)
Yeah I don't really need affirmation on my opinion from Mahomes. It's just a simple opinion that I could be proven wrong on. And to be honest, Mahomes is an exceptional QB, that doesn't make him an exceptional talent scout. Case in point, CEH. So it's not like it's some type of mic drop that Mahomes likes the guy.

CEH was basically Barry Sanders here on that draft day. I wait to see them play in the NFL before I really make any judgements. There's still hope for Skyy Moore turning into prime AB because AB also had 200 yards his rookie season tho ;)

RealSNR 04-28-2023 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16924674)
Correct me if Im wrong but I seem to recall Mahomes wanting them to draft CEH. They did. Wanted them to draft Skyy. They did. Now he wanted them to draft this guy. Mahomes GM

You're so insightful. No other dumb**** in this thread has brought that up yet. Just you. That's an original thought. Yep. You're Sherlock ****ing Holmes.

|Zach| 04-28-2023 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 16924454)
One thing I really like from watching him right now is they have him out wide majority of the time. This guy is no stranger to having DBs at his hip regularly. In a way he's the anti Hyatt - faces contact regularly and even dare I say, thrives off it. Like he demoralizes DBs because he's making his catches in SPITE of them and their best efforts. Also, something no ones talking about is his YAC ability, boy can he make guys miss. I am definitely seeing the Sammy Watkins comps.

It seems to be a huge focus of his game which will be great to see.

HC_Chief 04-28-2023 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16924833)
Rod Smith?

Shit! This guy must ****ing suck!

:D
You know we'd have loved that guy in KC, but yeah, **** Rod Smith.

Chiefspants 04-28-2023 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16924833)
Rod Smith?

Shit! This guy must ****ing suck!

Nah not if the opposing DC decides matching up a 5'7 150 pound dude against him is the way to lock him down.

SAGA45 04-28-2023 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 16924035)
I wanted Hyatt :(


I'm with your mom at a Hyatt. Will that do?

|Zach| 04-28-2023 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 16924907)
I'm with your mom at a Hyatt. Will that do?

LMAO

DJ's left nut 04-28-2023 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 16924704)
“I think I know football better than Veach and Mahomes.”

That’s what some of you sound like. Is that the role you want to play?

There's like 6-8 hardcore draft nerds on the board, right?

And to a person each of them love this pick and most were on the player WELL before some of the media sorts were.

I'll take the wisdom of that particular crowd over...well, the other guys in this thread....100 times out of 100.

tredadda 04-28-2023 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16924296)
As I said before the draft, I have no idea why all the guys who love Deandre Hopkins aren't all over Rashee Rice.

I have no idea if Rice will put up the same kind of career numbers, but that's what I see when I watch the tape. I see a young Hopkins.

Does he have Hopkins' hands? I think his best trait is that he rarely drops a pass. If Rice is even close to that, this is an outstanding pick.

BWillie 04-28-2023 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 16924278)
Got a fantastic 10 and 20 yard dash grade. Considering we aren't really a deep ball team anymore that's great.

I think this is a good point and 10 and 20 yard dash is probably more "football speed" than the 40.

ToxSocks 04-28-2023 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16924423)
He doesn't need you to defend his good name. Sometimes the picks aren't good. Sometimes I'm wrong. Sometimes you are.


The difference is I'm not calling you a reerun for it

I think when you take a step back and study Rice more, you'll realize all the good things Rice does that Hyatt doesn't.

Hyatt is a good player, but aint Waddle or D.Smith. He's Mecole Hardman.

And when you do that, you're gonna love the pick. Trust, this kid is gonna be a Star.

Chris Meck 04-28-2023 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 16924820)
I see size, speed, measurements can be equated, for sure. What I think is ridiculous is thinking "this guy is same size as ______" = obvious comp. It is ridiculous. FFS, Justin Jefferson was the NFL Offensive Player of the Year. D'Andre Hopkins is a legitimate NFL all-pro year after year. ROD SMITH is a Hall of Famer. These are the guys to which this second round pick out of SMU, that few had on their draft board this high btw, are being compared. Come on. Bruh. The breathless hyperbole is ridiculous. That is all I have pointed out, yet fatass zach thinks "nah, that's not hyperbole, it's totally legit to comapre this kid out of a Div 2 (arguably) school = comparable to a Hall of Fame player".

It's more than measurements, it's playing style.

When you watch some Rice tape, he does Hopkins things. The high-pointing the ball. The fighting through contact for the catch. The stuff Hopkins did in Houston that made people think Deshaun Watson was good. You see Rice do those things.

The run after catch stuff. He's an extremely similar skillset.

No, I'm not saying he's going to be as successful in the NFL as Hopkins, but I can tell you he's a very similar TYPE of receiver with a lot of the same ATTRIBUTES. He's of that style. Not a Hill, not a Waddle, not a DK Metcalf. He's like a Hopkins-type receiver.

Now, he's going to have to clean up his routes, like almost every draftee, and he sometimes has the dropsies on easy catches, which tells me he's trying to run before securing the ball. But these aren't unfixable flaws. The raw material is there.

Without them, he's a top ten pick.

I'll take my chances with Reid, Nagy, and Mahomes to get his best football out of him.

HC_Chief 04-28-2023 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16924951)
It's more than measurements, it's playing style.

When you watch some Rice tape, he does Hopkins things. The high-pointing the ball. The fighting through contact for the catch. The stuff Hopkins did in Houston that made people think Deshaun Watson was good. You see Rice do those things.

The run after catch stuff. He's an extremely similar skillset.

No, I'm not saying he's going to be as successful in the NFL as Hopkins, but I can tell you he's a very similar TYPE of receiver with a lot of the same ATTRIBUTES. He's of that style. Not a Hill, not a Waddle, not a DK Metcalf. He's like a Hopkins-type receiver.

Now, he's going to have to clean up his routes, like almost every draftee, and he sometimes has the dropsies on easy catches, which tells me he's trying to run before securing the ball. But these aren't unfixable flaws. The raw material is there.

Without them, he's a top ten pick.

I'll take my chances with Reid, Nagy, and Mahomes to get his best football out of him.

Great take. I hope you are spot on. 100% re: Reid, Nagy, and Mahomes maximizing this kid's potential.

RaidersOftheCellar 04-28-2023 09:04 PM

Wasn’t my first choice, but I’m talking myself into it.

Pablo 04-28-2023 09:05 PM

What is there for me to be upset about? I want to rage but just can’t muster it when we got a guy pat practiced with and recommended at a position of need

NJChiefsFan 04-28-2023 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16924674)
Correct me if Im wrong but I seem to recall Mahomes wanting them to draft CEH. They did. Wanted them to draft Skyy. They did. Now he wanted them to draft this guy. Mahomes GM

Mahomes wanted Moore?


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