Very sweet post!

this lets the chiefs focus on OT and DE in the draft...love this

Agreed.

They can absolutely have him contributing on the offense in the next 4-6 weeks and getting him in during the bye can only help in that regard.

The question becomes how to get him the ball, but ultimately the answer is going to be that him and and Moore will be fighting for snaps. Is it a given that Toney can/will surpass him this season? Not even a little bit.

But it's definitely a possibility. And if it happens and he's out there giving you 20-25 snaps/gm, he can do some serious damage with them.

This may or may not work out. But, you can't really fault the logic in the trade. Huge upside at a pretty decent cost if it all breaks right.

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Holy shit you're so obsessed bro

That last move is ****in NASTY

I don't know how people can think this move says nothing about how they think of Moore this season.

I guess I'm looking at this a little different than most. While I do agree that this is a long term play I also think this could be a NOW play.

Hardman just had his best game...will want more money than Veach will pay....Veach just traded for Hardman's replacement....

I feel this could mean that OBJ is signing with us and Veach, after getting Toney, will look to trade Hardman away for more than he gave up for Toney.

OBJ+Toney is better short term and long term.

Because it's not a move for this season.

This is a move you make for the next 2-3 years. OBJ would've been a more for this season.

I guess you can say it means something for PR though.

LET’S ****ING GOOOOOOOOOO

Ya. I'm the one obsessed. Yet its the other people that bring him up constantly. Makes sense.

There may not be many guys better built to play in an Andy Reid offense with a horizontal passes that get guys in space. That's actually a ton go give up for a guy who honestly hasn't done much. But I know the fantasy footballers are crazy about this guy because of his potential because he's so athletic.

I ****in cummed!!!!!

Like I said, best guy in space in his class, and it wasn't some bum-ass draft class.

He just has an innate feel for how to move after the catch. He can absolutely be a YAC God for this team.

And it ain't that hard to get a guy up to speed on designed rubs and quick hitters.

He can help this year.

They are on the phone with OBJ.


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If Veach gets OBJ we will need to make room for him now. Thats why I think Veach could NOW be shopping Hardman.

This guy will be the next tyreek hill in this offense

It's 100% a move for this season and future seasons. They're not doing this and just expecting him to just return punts this season

He’ll make us forget about Tyreek

GOD RAMMIT BRAD VERTCH YOU DID JT AGAIN YOU BRILLIANT SON IF A BITCH

Essentially low/medium risk vs potential extremely high reward.

ROFL

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Hardman and a draft pick for DE? :thumb:

:spock:

Andy Reid is the best ever at getting playmakers in space. Kadarious Toney coming out of college was one of the most elusive players in space since who?? Match made in heaven. Oh and check Mahomes' twitter fair to say he approves.

also, JuJu isnt a given next season...he might want a bigger bag than we want to give

Considering the FA class and the draft class next year, this is a fantastic move for the future.

Who?

he has some odell in the way he moves

Anybody think he sees a few snaps against the Titans?

I do.

I think they'll look to insert him right away, any way they can.

rare!

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The Chiefs have been playing the long game going back to the offseason.

This move is another that fills the bill.

I wouldn't say that it has absolutely nothing to do with this season, but it's definitely a long term move for the most part.

Toney isn't even healthy right now.

I just think you're pulling the chute WAY too fast on this.

I don't see how you view OBJ as a move for this year when he's coming off a serious injury and likely won't practice until mid-November but Toney is a move for next year.

Yeah, Toney has been dinged, but he hasn't gone 9 months without participating in football activities. And it's not like he's a rookie - he played last year and demonstrated serious shit when he was in the field.

Moreover, as was kindly pointed out, I'm betting Kafka being his OC in NY, even for a brief period, would have him more versed on the Chiefs offense than OBJ would be.

He's also far more explosive than OBJ is at this point in his career.

I just see no reasonable basis for saying that OBJ is a win-now move while Toney is a move exclusively for the future. Toney is MORE ready to contribute to this offense than OBJ is, and by a fair amount, IMO.

I wouldn't mind seeing him replace Moore at punt returner and he basically can already do as many plays as Hardman has been able to do his whole career here

Tyreek literally ****ing sucks turds now

I thought he was a healthy scratch the last couple of weeks?

So this probably kills off any speculation of us trading a late pick for a pass rusher.

The offseason and this move clearly indicate we're preparing for the next 2-3 years.

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What would make you think that?

It's an open question...

He's got a filthy jab step, but he's doing a bit too much. On most plays you'll get one of those before you're corralled. Just plant your foot and go. I don't want this dude in here Demarcus Robinsoning it up.

Any word on who we cut to make room?

Nope.

OBJ is the kind of move that says we want to have another proven reliable weapon for the playoffs to go all-in for a championship.

This feels like the kind of move that says we want to get this guy in the building and give him a small role then hopefully he explodes in 2023/2024.

I like Toney, I'm just not expecting much from him this year. Hopefully I'm wrong.

I think they definitely saw some Tyreek in him.

Clark is suspended. No need for now.

Smart trade.

We badly need a punt returner - like right now.

And the Chiefs just landed a talented WR under their control for the 2023 and 2024 seasons for peanuts, and then can choose to to keep him in 2025 with the 5th year option.

This is exactly the type of player the Chiefs needed to help with the cap so we don't have to go out and over spend on the FA market for that position.

Correct, this is a Hardman & JuJu contingency and replacement plan.

Thanks.

From what I've seen, he has a much better sense of when it's time to dive forward than Demarcus does

Ho boy. Pretty exciting pickup if this kid can get his head straight here.

I wonder what Aaron Rodgers thinks about this? Makes you appreciate Veach & Reid more than ever. See a hole and go fix it.

I feel like this is more of a futures move. We have him on a rookie deal for the next 3 years.

Everything about the FA period, the draft and this trade shows we're investing for the next few years. It doesn't line up with us trading a pick just for this year (like a Jerry Hughes).

But hopefully I'm wrong.

Oh WOW!

That's what im talking about, Breach!

np. If he tweaked his other hamstring on Oct 5th I could see him on the field when we return after the bye. That would be almost 4 weeks.

Now can you post Russell Wilson's numbers from this season and his injury record over the last 18 months sir?

So you do think he could see at least limited action against the Titans? I freaking hope so, I can't wait to see him play.

Conditional third? So more like a 4th, right?

So you think the Chiefs are just giving up on this year or something? There were reports immediately after this trade saying they were still in on the trade market for moves that make sense. If they can get a pass rusher for what they deem a reasonable cost they will do it, or any other position for that matter.

Juju
MVS
Toney
Hardman
Watson
Moore

That's a ****ing amazing set of WRs to be working with.

We're cutting Valdez and not resigning Hardman I assume

Man another Veach surprise trade. Dude always zigs when we expect a zag.

This is intriguing.

Saddest man alive

Because having both could be awesome?

The thing about Hughes is that he's dirt ****ing cheap, in terms of both cap hit and likely trade compensation. It's something they could do without really batting an eye, whereas most of the other options out there right now would require considerable outlay in both draft picks and salary.

To those concerned about the compensation. IF the Chiefs let Hardman walk, we will almost certainly gain a 3rd round comp pick for the '24 draft.

Receive
Toney
3rd in '24

Give Up
Hardman
3rd in '23
6th in '23

Yep.

:facepalm:

Yea, because we don't need WRs with 2 expiring contracts after this year.

LMAO Yeah, can't say I was familiar enough with his game to know he was THAT elusive. Some of those moves are busted as ****.

I have a lot of catching up in this thread to do. But for the record, im hella excited about this dude.

Was all over it the first time he was mentioned as a trade candidate. ELITE start/Stop. No one should be questioning his ability.

Attitude/effort/injury history...absolutely red flags.

But goddamn the dude is ELECTRIC with the ball in his hands.

With that said, lemme go catch up with yall

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Have to consider that there's a good chance we don't make it through the entire season/postseason without losing a few games from some of these guys too.

If we can get Toney and Moore up to speed this season, it could come in the clutch.

Mark Donovan and Brett Veach figured if Dr. Tyrance was going to earn his recent promotion to Vice President as team psychologist, might as well get a super talented guy in the fold to keep Doc busy.

Actually not surprised he has some problems with his legs after seeing those highlights. Impressive as **** but God damn is he rough on himself.

Low risk, high reward trade.

In Veach I trust.

Don't forget about Justyn Ross.

Juju
Valdez
Toney
Hardman
OBJ

LMAO

Bart Scott thinks Toney is already the best WR on the team: "He's going to be a problem. This trade should be Chris Paul'd for unfair competitive advantage to the Chiefs"