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Hoover 03-25-2022 01:13 PM

This interview with the Haslam's is really awkward. Nothing like rolling out the wife to explain why you signed a sexual predator.

"We got really comfortable with Deshaun"

Red Dawg 03-25-2022 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 16215172)
This interview with the Haslam's is really awkward. Nothing like rolling out the wife to explain why you signed a sexual predator.

"We got really comfortable with Deshaun"

You are throwing the "sexual predator" term around pretty loosely. There is zero evidence Watson is that.

dirk digler 03-25-2022 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt_Von_Trapp (Post 16214938)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Deshaun Watson to reporters in Cleveland: “I understand these allegations are serious. I never assaulted any woman. I&#39;ve never disrespected any woman. I was raised to be genuine and to respect everyone around me….<br><br>“I’ve never done the things that these people are alleging.”</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1507406513584934914?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Can't believe his lawyer allowed him to say that.

Hoover 03-25-2022 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16215186)
You are throwing the "sexual predator" term around pretty loosely. There is zero evidence Watson is that.

I was commenting on the questions they were asked by the media. Not weighing in on the matter.

Sassy Squatch 03-25-2022 01:24 PM

There are documented texts that he's sent apologizing for making an alleged victim feel uncomfortable. Dude knows he ****ed up at least somewhat. Pretty dumb to say that publicly.

KChiefs1 03-25-2022 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16215162)
LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Deshaun Watson: &#39;I&#39;ve always been hands on in the community of Houston.&#39;</p>— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1507404310149279745?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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htismaqe 03-25-2022 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16215199)
There are documented texts that he's sent apologizing for making an alleged victim feel uncomfortable. Dude knows he ****ed up at least somewhat. Pretty dumb to say that publicly.

Yeah, that's either really brave or really stupid. Gonna be messed up if this new grand jury decides to indict.

FloridaMan88 03-25-2022 01:56 PM

He’s obviously not getting good legal advice (or is not listening to it) by not already settling these lawsuits and making them go away.

Letting them continue to linger, and eventually going to a civil trial with discovery? Pretty sure Watson doesn’t want that.

htismaqe 03-25-2022 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16215278)
He’s obviously not getting good legal advice (or is not listening to it) by not already settling these lawsuits and making them go away.

Letting them continue to linger, and eventually going to a civil trial with discovery? Pretty sure Watson doesn’t want that.

I wonder if settling would immediately land him in trouble with the league? Seems punishing someone for a civil suit is a little extreme but with Goodell, who knows.

Eleazar 03-25-2022 02:38 PM

That press conference was extremely embarrassing for the Browns franchise. I am not sure how you could not conclude that they simply don't care about the allegations. They won't say what they did to look into them. They say that they were thorough, even though some of the accusers have nothing on record yet. They won't say that they think he's innocent, only that they "believe in" him "as a person". The entire thing was them reciting legalese that amounted to "we don't care".

Someone posted elsewhere that Watson's contract is structured so that his salary this year is only $1 million, to minimize his financial losses if he is suspended this year.

Scum franchise

PHOG 03-25-2022 04:56 PM

Him and Kareem

https://c.tenor.com/ulsQf5epKHEAAAAd/laughing-lol.gif

jettio 03-25-2022 05:25 PM

I just want a talking head on tv to have the nerve to say:

"Okay, so DeShaun Watson thought every mobile massage therapist during the pandemic was a sex worker he paid to play with his pee pee. Is that as bad as PacMan Jones making it rain in a strip club?

Abba-Dabba 03-25-2022 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16215263)
Yeah, that's either really brave or really stupid. Gonna be messed up if this new grand jury decides to indict.

Declined to indict yesterday.

Rainbarrel 03-25-2022 05:42 PM

Press your butthole to the camera lens and press send

Capt_Von_Trapp 03-26-2022 07:11 PM

18 massage therapists vouch for DeShaun and attach their names. Interesting

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">18 massage therapists, with names attached, voice support for Deshaun Watson - ProFootballTalk <a href="https://t.co/T9fP5OpJ9l">https://t.co/T9fP5OpJ9l</a></p>&mdash; Nicole (@DawgPoundDiva3) <a href="https://twitter.com/DawgPoundDiva3/status/1507711245914451968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Rainbarrel 03-27-2022 05:30 PM

The Browns had offered Baker 30 mil a year and he turned it down. Joe Thomas

staylor26 03-27-2022 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt_Von_Trapp (Post 16217384)
18 massage therapists vouch for DeShaun and attach their names. Interesting

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">18 massage therapists, with names attached, voice support for Deshaun Watson - ProFootballTalk <a href="https://t.co/T9fP5OpJ9l">https://t.co/T9fP5OpJ9l</a></p>&mdash; Nicole (@DawgPoundDiva3) <a href="https://twitter.com/DawgPoundDiva3/status/1507711245914451968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Well guess that means he’s innocent!

threebag 03-27-2022 05:35 PM

His next massage is going to consist of the Cleveland Steamer

ThyKingdomCome15 03-27-2022 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 16218941)
The Browns had offered Baker 30 mil a year and he turned it down. Joe Thomas

They're lucky he did! Maybe their fortunes are turning after all.

Chiefs=Champions 03-27-2022 05:38 PM

Guy who robs bank, gets endorsement from banks he didnt rob.

Rainbarrel 03-27-2022 05:40 PM

Trading him may be a problem. Thirty million isn't much for a starting QB now, but Baker...

Capt_Von_Trapp 03-27-2022 05:45 PM

Why did he have like 50 different massage therapists?

staylor26 03-27-2022 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt_Von_Trapp (Post 16218971)
Why did he have like 50 different massage therapists?

Because he clearly has a fetish.

Jamie 03-27-2022 05:47 PM

Kinda begs the question of why he needs to see 39 different massage therapists...

KChiefs1 03-27-2022 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt_Von_Trapp (Post 16218971)
Why did he have like 50 different massage therapists?


Social media.


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Red Dawg 03-27-2022 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 16218960)
Trading him may be a problem. Thirty million isn't much for a starting QB now, but Baker...

More than Brady is getting.

irafreak 03-27-2022 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16218944)
Well guess that means he’s innocent!

Remember you have to believe every woman...

Sassy Squatch 03-27-2022 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 16218941)
The Browns had offered Baker 30 mil a year and he turned it down. Joe Thomas

Before 21.

Capt_Von_Trapp 03-29-2022 03:06 PM

Deposition


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Deshaun Watson’s deposition <a href="https://t.co/y47883pd5s">pic.twitter.com/y47883pd5s</a></p>&mdash; JPA Football  (@jpafootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/jpafootball/status/1508874184675540993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chief3188 03-29-2022 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt_Von_Trapp (Post 16222946)
Deposition


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Deshaun Watson’s deposition <a href="https://t.co/y47883pd5s">pic.twitter.com/y47883pd5s</a></p>&mdash; JPA Football  (@jpafootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/jpafootball/status/1508874184675540993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah he's guilty.

ToxSocks 03-29-2022 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt_Von_Trapp (Post 16217384)
18 massage therapists vouch for DeShaun and attach their names. Interesting

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">18 massage therapists, with names attached, voice support for Deshaun Watson - ProFootballTalk <a href="https://t.co/T9fP5OpJ9l">https://t.co/T9fP5OpJ9l</a></p>&mdash; Nicole (@DawgPoundDiva3) <a href="https://twitter.com/DawgPoundDiva3/status/1507711245914451968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

18 well tipped ladies.

Tribal Warfare 03-29-2022 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16223007)
18 well tipped ladies.

LOL, code for pulled out

Rainbarrel 03-29-2022 05:28 PM

Watson looking forward to spending the bye week in the Buffalo stadium stands.

jettio 03-29-2022 05:46 PM

This is from Dan Pastorini's Wikipedia page.

Being the NFL QB in Houston, it is not that easy to keep it simple, apparently.

Life outside football

Pastorini raced hydroplanes, drag-raced cars, judged wet T-shirt contests, and starred in a 1974 B-movie called Weed: The Florida Connection and then co-starred in a 1979 Lee Majors movie called Killer Fish. He also played a role in the TV series "Voyagers!" as a gladiator and posed nude in 1980 for Playgirl magazine. He married glamor model June Wilkinson, who appeared in Playboy magazine. She is British and 9 years older. They had one child, a daughter named Brahna, and later divorced.

Pastorini drove a Top Fuel dragster as part of the NHRA Winston Drag Racing Series in the mid-1980s. He collected several national event victories. His first came in Atlanta at the NHRA Southern Nationals in 1986. He also participated in the 2009 Lamborghini Race located at Sebring International Raceway.

Personal life
Pastorini is an Honorary Texan. In January 2012, on The Jim Rome Radio Show, Pastorini recalled a story how then-Raider owner Al Davis completely blew him off in the locker room after a game. "He sneered at me" said Pastorini. Pastorini then went on to say that, "when he (Davis) passed away, I wasn't sad to see him go." Pastorini currently lives and works in Houston. His autobiography, Taking Flak: My Life in the Fast Lane, was released in November 2011

DRM08 03-29-2022 07:15 PM

Ravens owner complaining about the huge guaranteed money for Watson. Cleveland screwing the rest of the league with this deal.


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ates-qb-market

listopencil 03-30-2022 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jettio (Post 16223164)
This is from Dan Pastorini's Wikipedia page.

Being the NFL QB in Houston, it is not that easy to keep it simple, apparently.

Life outside football

Pastorini raced hydroplanes, drag-raced cars, judged wet T-shirt contests, and starred in a 1974 B-movie called Weed: The Florida Connection and then co-starred in a 1979 Lee Majors movie called Killer Fish. He also played a role in the TV series "Voyagers!" as a gladiator and posed nude in 1980 for Playgirl magazine. He married glamor model June Wilkinson, who appeared in Playboy magazine. She is British and 9 years older. They had one child, a daughter named Brahna, and later divorced.

Pastorini drove a Top Fuel dragster as part of the NHRA Winston Drag Racing Series in the mid-1980s. He collected several national event victories. His first came in Atlanta at the NHRA Southern Nationals in 1986. He also participated in the 2009 Lamborghini Race located at Sebring International Raceway.

Personal life
Pastorini is an Honorary Texan. In January 2012, on The Jim Rome Radio Show, Pastorini recalled a story how then-Raider owner Al Davis completely blew him off in the locker room after a game. "He sneered at me" said Pastorini. Pastorini then went on to say that, "when he (Davis) passed away, I wasn't sad to see him go." Pastorini currently lives and works in Houston. His autobiography, Taking Flak: My Life in the Fast Lane, was released in November 2011

I don't have a problem with any of that.

TribalElder 03-30-2022 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16223290)
Ravens owner complaining about the huge guaranteed money for Watson. Cleveland screwing the rest of the league with this deal.


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ates-qb-market

They are all butthurt because they have to pay Lamar soon ROFL

Red Dawg 03-30-2022 07:58 AM

The Browns ****ed every team that has a QB to pay. We have it easy for a while at least.

Rainbarrel 03-31-2022 10:53 AM

Dorsey you ignorant slut
 
According to the NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero, “The Browns initially wanted at least a 2nd rounder and more for Baker Mayfield while refusing to take on any of the money on his contract.” Noting, “some NFL teams didn’t even believe he was a 1st rounder in the 2018 Draft. Browns made him 1st overall,”

htismaqe 03-31-2022 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16223684)
The Browns ****ed every team that has a QB to pay. We have it easy for a while at least.

Especially the small market teams with owners that don't have a ton of cash.

jettio 03-31-2022 11:19 AM

I think it is safe to assume that, unlike Baker Mayfield, Deshaun Watson is not going to get paid to be a commercial spokesperson for any insurance companies.

Unless, that insurance is for something really extra super-duper specific.

ArrowHeader 03-31-2022 11:35 AM

Watson’s cap hit for the Browns next season is $55MM. Garret’s hit will be $29MM. They will be 2nd to last cap space with lots of players hitting free agency and no day 1 draft picks lol. This was a laugh now cry later deal. A one year window and your star QB is most likely suspended 4-8 games. Good luck bruh

Rainbarrel 04-02-2022 09:48 AM

DOH!
 
https://fansided.com/2022/04/02/desh...m_campaign=msn

RunKC 05-17-2022 08:55 PM

Incredible

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Deshaun Watson’s dead money cap figure made me choke on my water <a href="https://t.co/9hmy34ZK7k">pic.twitter.com/9hmy34ZK7k</a></p>&mdash; Nate Tice (@Nate_Tice) <a href="https://twitter.com/Nate_Tice/status/1526566039881805824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nickhead 05-17-2022 09:12 PM

this is where i reiterate that watson will flat out fail now after all that has transpired. mark my words:

he will either not be on the roster by end of contract or he will be leading a team that max's out at 6 wins a year for the duration of the contract (injury could always be used as an excuse too). :thumb:

BossChief 05-18-2022 01:01 AM

The Mahomes contract keeps looking better and better.

RealSNR 05-18-2022 02:14 AM

So 18 of the women were willing to settle and Watson told them "No way."

What's he going to do? Go to trial 22 ****ing times? And win all of them?

These cases have a way of wearing people down, so I imagine settlements will start to roll out eventually, but until then, he's got a lot of non-football stuff on his mind.

And boy I'm going to laaaaaaaaaugh if he plays like utter crap for the Browns and/or something goes awry and he loses one or multiple of the cases which further restricts him from joining the team for a longer amount of time than expected.

Nickhead 05-18-2022 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16298422)
So 18 of the women were willing to settle and Watson told them "No way."

What's he going to do? Go to trial 22 ****ing times? And win all of them?

These cases have a way of wearing people down, so I imagine settlements will start to roll out eventually, but until then, he's got a lot of non-football stuff on his mind.

And boy I'm going to laaaaaaaaaugh if he plays like utter crap for the Browns and/or something goes awry and he loses one or multiple of the cases which further restricts him from joining the team for a longer amount of time than expected.

suck a dick once, a one who sucks the penis for life...

he's ****ed either way...

kareem hunt was overjoyed watson was signed. he may rush for 2000 yards. :D

I liken this scenario to the joke Chappelle made about Cosby... he rapes but he saves...

this is what Cleveland fans are going thru right now.

BigRedChief 05-18-2022 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16215388)
That press conference was extremely embarrassing for the Browns franchise. I am not sure how you could not conclude that they simply don't care about the allegations.

The Chiefs didn't care about the Hunt allegations until he lied to Hunt and Reid.

No NFL team is a pure with the "right thing" every time organization. Some are more willing to cut morally bankrupt corners than others. They all have the drive to win, cut corners, ignore morally bankrupt behavior. These players are not expected to be choir boys.

TEX 05-18-2022 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 16298254)
this is where i reiterate that watson will flat out fail now after all that has transpired. mark my words:

he will either not be on the roster by end of contract or he will be leading a team that max's out at 6 wins a year for the duration of the contract (injury could always be used as an excuse too). :thumb:

This is so off He will be fine. Dude can play. He dodged a huge bullet when criminal charges were not filed in Harris and Braziria counties. All That remains are civil charges and possible NFL suspension. Once he is allowed to play, and if they win, the severity of what he allegedly did will be minimized .

TEX 05-18-2022 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 16298254)
this is where i reiterate that watson will flat out fail now after all that has transpired. mark my words:

he will either not be on the roster by end of contract or he will be leading a team that max's out at 6 wins a year for the duration of the contract (injury could always be used as an excuse too). :thumb:

This is so off base He will be fine. Dude can play. He dodged a huge bullet when criminal charges were not filed in Harris and Brazoria counties. All That remains are civil charges and possible NFL suspension. Once he is allowed to play, and if they win, the severity of what he allegedly did will be minimized .

stevieray 05-18-2022 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16298539)
Once he is allowed to play, and if they win, the severity of what he allegedly did will be minimized .

That's a damn shame.


I think he's overrated.

stevieray 05-18-2022 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16298498)
These players are not expected to be choir boys.

for that kind of money, they damn sure better be.

But that won't happen. We've lowered the bar.

ThaVirus 05-18-2022 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 16298564)
But that won't happen. We've lowered the bar.

-Definitely didn't just spend the last five years cheering every time Tyreek Hill scored a TD

stevieray 05-18-2022 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16298624)
-Definitely didn't just spend the last five years cheering every time Tyreek Hill scored a TD

^ok weirdo^


You think Tyreek was guilty of child abuse??

displacedinMN 05-18-2022 09:38 AM

Watson may be AP 2.0

Broke and will never have enough to get out of debt after all of those lawsuits

lawrenceRaider 05-18-2022 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 16298642)
^ok weirdo^


You think Tyreek was guilty of child abuse??

Reek definitely was guilty of domestic violence.

stevieray 05-18-2022 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16298656)
Reek definitely was guilty of domestic violence.

Then why wasn't he charged and prosecuted?

ThaVirus 05-18-2022 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 16298642)
^ok weirdo^


You think Tyreek was guilty of child abuse??

Doesn't matter what I think. Tyreek was convicted of beating up his pregnant girlfriend.

And you, in all your moral superiority, still cheered for him every Sunday. What's that say about you?

jallmon 05-18-2022 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16199639)
The Browns should be kicked out of the league. They're a laughingstock.

That could buy a whole lot of ass massages! Go get 'em Deshaun!

stevieray 05-18-2022 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16298658)
Doesn't matter what I think. Tyreek was convicted of beating up his pregnant girlfriend.

And you, in all your moral superiority, still cheered for him every Sunday. What's that say about you?


I cheered for the Chiefs.

i didn't give two shits when "Mr 7 SB's' was traded.

ThaVirus 05-18-2022 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 16298674)
I cheered for the Chiefs.

i didn't give two shits when "Mr 7 SB's' was traded.

Good to know it's OK for you but no one else because... reasons..

wazu 05-18-2022 10:11 AM

The Cleveland Browns had so much promise and talent. They were so well positioned to at least be really good for a pretty good run. And then they hit this self-destruct button. What a disastrous decision. Can't imagine being a Browns fan.

ThaVirus 05-18-2022 10:21 AM

Would be hilarious if Watson couldn't play and they had to tuck their tail between their legs and run back to Baker lol

TwistedChief 05-18-2022 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16298694)
Good to know it's OK for you but no one else because... reasons..

I kinda differentiate between the two fwiw.

Yes, Tyreek had the situation in college which was obviously fairly horrible. But he was young and by all accounts it was an isolated incident. And people at that age are more prone to make mistakes and have more room to grow and improve. (Note: I'm ignoring both the possibility that the situation in college was less bad than it appeared as well as the stuff that happened with his son a few years ago.)

Watson on the other hand seems to have a serial problem in this respect. Not a one-time thing. And to me that plays a little bit different.

I'd hate to be a Browns fan needing to defend the guy. Here you are, a fan of a team that for years has been a loser but at least a loveable loser that fans of opposing teams could actually support (not unlike the Bengals), and you suddenly skip the line because you're willing to pay more than anyone else for Watson.

Yeah, I wanted the Chiefs to win, but if we did it by getting Watson, the SB victory wouldn't have been remotely as satisfying.

staylor26 05-18-2022 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16298753)
I kinda differentiate between the two fwiw.

Yes, Tyreek had the situation in college which was obviously fairly horrible. But he was young and by all accounts it was an isolated incident. And people at that age are more prone to make mistakes and have more room to grow and improve. (Note: I'm ignoring both the possibility that the situation in college was less bad than it appeared as well as the stuff that happened with his son a few years ago.)

Watson on the other hand seems to have a serial problem in this respect. Not a one-time thing. And to me that plays a little bit different.

I'd hate to be a Browns fan needing to defend the guy. Here you are, a fan of a team that for years has been a loser but at least a loveable loser that fans of opposing teams could actually support (not unlike the Bengals), and you suddenly skip the line because you're willing to pay more than anyone else for Watson.

Yeah, I wanted the Chiefs to win, but if we did it by getting Watson, the SB victory wouldn't have been remotely as satisfying.

Nail on the ****ing head.

It appears Tyreek was in a toxic relationship, and with time, I think that been proven to be the case.

Like you said, Watson’s issues are more serial.

RealSNR 05-18-2022 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16298656)
Reek definitely was guilty of domestic violence.

A man "definitely guilty" of domestic violence has full custody of his son.

Rainbarrel 05-18-2022 11:22 AM

The Browns are a joke. What it says about how the Texans are run. When this is Watson's preferred outcome is as shameful as Watson's acts

ThaVirus 05-18-2022 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16298753)
I kinda differentiate between the two fwiw.

Yes, Tyreek had the situation in college which was obviously fairly horrible. But he was young and by all accounts it was an isolated incident. And people at that age are more prone to make mistakes and have more room to grow and improve. (Note: I'm ignoring both the possibility that the situation in college was less bad than it appeared as well as the stuff that happened with his son a few years ago.)

Watson on the other hand seems to have a serial problem in this respect. Not a one-time thing. And to me that plays a little bit different.

I'd hate to be a Browns fan needing to defend the guy. Here you are, a fan of a team that for years has been a loser but at least a loveable loser that fans of opposing teams could actually support (not unlike the Bengals), and you suddenly skip the line because you're willing to pay more than anyone else for Watson.

Yeah, I wanted the Chiefs to win, but if we did it by getting Watson, the SB victory wouldn't have been remotely as satisfying.

I'm a huge Tyreek Hill fan so you don't have to convince me.

I'm just laughing at stevie's hypocrisy. He's talking about how NFL players should be choir boys due to how much they get paid and lamenting how we, as fans, have lowered the bar for them. Whole time he's cheering for a team that employs Tyreek Hill, Frank Clark, Willie Gay, etc. as well as a coach who clearly has some issues raising functional children.

Who cares about any of that? Not me, but apparently stevie does. It's just amusing.

staylor26 05-18-2022 11:57 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Testifying under oath, Deshaun Watson admits Ashley Solis cried at end of massage - ProFootballTalk <a href="https://t.co/OQ6HLYvYmY">https://t.co/OQ6HLYvYmY</a></p>&mdash; John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/status/1526675937273651201?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

stevieray 05-18-2022 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16298841)
I'm a huge Tyreek Hill fan so you don't have to convince me.

I'm just laughing at stevie's hypocrisy. He's talking about how NFL players should be choir boys due to how much they get paid and lamenting how we, as fans, have lowered the bar for them. Whole time he's cheering for a team that employs Tyreek Hill, Frank Clark, Willie Gay, etc. as well as a coach who clearly has some issues raising functional children.

Who cares about any of that? Not me, but apparently stevie does. It's just amusing.

I cheer for the Chiefs because they are my hometown team and I grew up five minutes from Arrowhead. Just like I still love family members who have slipped through the cracks, because they are family.

We hold highly paid professionals to a high standard in almost every aspect of life, except a few areas, sports being one of them.

The majority of NFL players hold themselves to that standard, past and present. You can mock me all you want for hoping for the best for the players, team and city. I can't control what they do..you have no problem with it, as long as you are entertained. That's lowering the bar. Clark, like his father, is HUGE on giving back to the community. Pretty sure he doesn't just gloss over those incidents as if they didn't matter.

penguinz 05-18-2022 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 16298876)
I cheer for the Chiefs because they are my hometown team and I grew up five minutes from Arrowhead. Just like I still love family members who have slipped through the cracks, because they are family.

We hold highly paid professionals to a high standard in almost every aspect of life, except a few areas, sports being one of them.

The majority of NFL players hold themselves to that standard, past and present. You can mock me all you want for hoping for the best for the players, team and city. I can't control what they do..you have no problem with it, as long as you are entertained. That's lowering the bar. Clark, like his father, is HUGE on giving back to the community. Pretty sure he doesn't just gloss over those incidents as if they didn't matter.

You are cheering and celebrating players who do things that are in direct conflict with your beliefs.

This makes you the one lowering yourself to cheer for them.

wazu 05-18-2022 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16298849)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Testifying under oath, Deshaun Watson admits Ashley Solis cried at end of massage - ProFootballTalk <a href="https://t.co/OQ6HLYvYmY">https://t.co/OQ6HLYvYmY</a></p>&mdash; John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/status/1526675937273651201?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Imagine being outsmarted by the front office of the Houston Texans.

Chief Pagan 05-18-2022 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16298841)
I'm a huge Tyreek Hill fan so you don't have to convince me.

I'm just laughing at stevie's hypocrisy. He's talking about how NFL players should be choir boys due to how much they get paid and lamenting how we, as fans, have lowered the bar for them. Whole time he's cheering for a team that employs Tyreek Hill, Frank Clark, Willie Gay, etc. as well as a coach who clearly has some issues raising functional children.

Who cares about any of that? Not me, but apparently stevie does. It's just amusing.



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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 16298876)
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We hold highly paid professionals to a high standard in almost every aspect of life, except a few areas, sports being one of them.

The majority of NFL players hold themselves to that standard, past and present. You can mock me all you want for hoping for the best for the players, team and city. I can't control what they do..you have no problem with it, as long as you are entertained. That's lowering the bar. Clark, like his father, is HUGE on giving back to the community. Pretty sure he doesn't just gloss over those incidents as if they didn't matter.

I find the celebratory worship of athletes and Hollywood stars kind of sad.

I watch sports and Hollywood movies because the product on the field or the movie itself entertains me. I'm not trying to live my life vicariously through someone else.

Except to the extent that the stories are unavoidable (because they overwhelm pages of Chiefs Planet like with Hill and obviously with Watson) I try not to get caught up with what Athletes do in their own time.

I don't even watch interviews or talk shows.

When he was close to retirement, I remember a co-worker saying he thought Paul Pierce sounded like a douche in interviews and I remembered thinking (despite watching a lot of Boston games because Pierce was a former Jayhawk), I hadn't ever seen him interviewed.

If athletes commit crimes, they should be prosecuted like anyone else. But why on earth we should think they are better humans, or examples for the community just because of some natural athletic ability and ungodly paycheck is beyond me.

And if it was up to me, I wouldn't exactly encourage the hero worship by trotting the players around to schools and whatnot. Because than what the hell do you do when shock of all shock (I'm absolutely shocked I tell you!) they don't all turn out to be choir boys!!!

Marcellus 05-18-2022 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16298953)
You are cheering and celebrating players who do things that are in direct conflict with your beliefs.

This makes you the one lowering yourself to cheer for them.

By that standard none of us could watch sports, listen to music, watch a movie, or read CP.

Sometimes you have have to realize people are flawed. As long as it doesn't go too far you get over it.

Wallcrawler 05-18-2022 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16298841)
I'm a huge Tyreek Hill fan so you don't have to convince me.

I'm just laughing at stevie's hypocrisy. He's talking about how NFL players should be choir boys due to how much they get paid and lamenting how we, as fans, have lowered the bar for them. Whole time he's cheering for a team that employs Tyreek Hill, Frank Clark, Willie Gay,etc. as well as a coach who clearly has some issues raising functional children.

Who cares about any of that? Not me, but apparently stevie does. It's just amusing.

I for one, felt that Willie Gay's assault of that defenseless vacuum cleaner was reprehensible, and it is so hard to watch the Kansas City Chiefs now.

#believeallhouseholdappliances

ThaVirus 06-06-2022 03:05 PM

I hadn't really paid much attention to Watson's sexual assault issues up until the last few days after I watched the Real Sports special.

I have to say, I'm skeptical of these women's claims, though it appears Watson is definitely a creepy weirdo. No one needs that many masseuses lol and you definitely don't need to be ****ing multiple them, especially while you have a girlfriend.

Sassy Squatch 06-06-2022 03:11 PM

Think Hardin has ****ed him pretty badly by coming out and insinuating there definitely were sexual interactions with multiple "masseuses". But the Wheel of Discipline could give him a slap on the wrist and an unenthusiastic handjob for all we know.

ThaVirus 06-06-2022 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16322202)
Think Hardin has ****ed him pretty badly by coming out and insinuating there definitely were sexual interactions with multiple "masseuses". But the Wheel of Discipline could give him a slap on the wrist and an unenthusiastic handjob for all we know.


I haven’t dug into it, but from what I understand, Watson admitted to consensual sex with three or four of them, no?

You’re right about the Wheel of Discipline, though. It could go a million different ways. According to the Real Sports segment, the NFL didn’t even speak to some of the masseuses. And recently they’ve got Watson’s agent lauding the league’s “thorough” investigation.

I wouldn’t be surprised if that was a sort of plea deal. “Just hype us up a bit and we’ll lighten the suspension” sort of thing.

TwistedChief 06-06-2022 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16322281)
I haven’t dug into it, but from what I understand, Watson admitted to consensual sex with three or four of them, no?

You’re right about the Wheel of Discipline, though. It could go a million different ways. According to the Real Sports segment, the NFL didn’t even speak to some of the masseuses. And recently they’ve got Watson’s agent lauding the league’s “thorough” investigation.

I wouldn’t be surprised if that was a sort of plea deal. “Just hype us up a bit and we’ll lighten the suspension” sort of thing.

I’d be shocked if he weren’t suspended for at least a season. There’s no way the NFL has been okay with how this has all played out.


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