Why is this a bad thing? Did people start actually believing the Kingdom article over the last week?

Not sure if its bad or not, but it is amazing to me that no one is losing their job after that 2nd half offensive gameplan/lack of common sense.

lotta people man...lotta people

Heh.

And to some extent, I could see cooler heads prevailing and Mahomes looking back on the past season and perhaps putting more blame on himself than warranted (meaning, if EB was a major problem).... but yeah, end of the day, if EB was providing no value or obviously being a detriment, 100% he wouldn't be back.

And of course, Mahomes and EB don't have to love each other or be 100% on the same page all the time. That was of course the whole problem with the fan fiction... there were probably shreds of truth to it while completely ignoring how people can actually work together and still argue and disagree sometimes, and then be adult enough to realize there's still value in improving what's been built as opposed to going a different direction.

It would be like if Mahomes was at a basketball game and his girlfriend made a weird look and Twitter blew up and made up a story about that weird look.

All I've got from this entire situation is that the Chiefs were about to give EB the boot, then the ClayMartyBill story came out, and now they've brought him back due to optics and nobody putting Clark/Vortch/Andy in a corner.

Way to go, fellas.

Nah.

Haha you think? I don't think they were getting rid of him, just hopeful he could find a better job

We just need EB to go on a rager and have a criminal relapse now, and we will be vindicated.

Lol no.

Exactly. Another meltdown in the big game.

You live in a fantasy world.

That’s rich.

Shaggy Shane, Marty, Clay and Lance.

The Middle Aged Mutant Journalist reeruns.

Luckily they’ll never find us here…….

LMAO

You mean the guy that Andy beat in the SB?

Why do they keep doing 1 year deals?

That seems like a bit of a WTF is really going on here

Lotta people called you out on your bullshit man...lotta people

Well it probably steered it towards this.

Even before the story came out it was clear they wernt expecting him to be back. Weeks on end with no urgency to bring him back, and only when things started getting uncomfortable....another one year deal.
Lets face it, they were hoping, expecting him to land a job somewhere this offseason.

yee, that'll leave a mark.

Not to be a labeled...

yip

My take on the situation is this - mistakes were made by all parties involved, throughout the season. Sure, more of the blame falls on the staff but they worked it out via meetings and made some changes and Mahomes signed off on it. Hopefully it works out.

Not really.

Because he is gutter trash that is just using the Chiefs to get a HC job.

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I'll just take what Kelce has to say over anyone. Feb 13,2022


I don't get the lies that were told I don't even believe a prominent offensive player was going to threaten to walk if the brought back EB. Patrick Mahomes is the face of the Franchise and Co owner of the Royals. He has been putting out workout videos and going to games and plenty of pics of him and his fiance and baby. The man looks happy and the vids of him working out are insane. Determination hard work we got to move on from the AFCCG and the combine and FA period begins. Then the Draft and I wonder what will be under Burt Vlanch for this years draft and bolster this offensive line and he said defensive line is a priority.


I don't know about the rest of y'all but mother ****ers did we not just win Super Bowl LIV and am I the only one that's grateful for that gift from God himself? I get that Andy ****ed the second half of the AFC Championship but how many coaches are as consistent as Andy in giving his team the opportunity to win the Conference Championship. Yes he has stubbornites of passing the ball. Marty Shcottenheimer (rip) was just the opposite with running the ball. We all hail and love Marty S but geaze shit all over the man that brought us home the Lombardi after 50 ****ing years.

Y'all and my self included need to chill. Lets paint a happy place we will be back in contention of winning Super Bowls.

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you just believe everything you hear on TV don'cha

I'm glad you think so because that means we are doing the right thing bringing back EB.


This just made me jump on endorsing EB. I was hoping he'd find a HC job elsewhere but now I'm happy that we get to bring back a guy that was instrumental in helping us win SB LIV. Don't believe me, ask the players. Ask Patrick Travis Tyreek.

Well, you've certainly achieved a level of distinction where no one will believe anything you utter out of your mouth (and other orifices) from now on.

GFY.

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EB is from the streets, dude. He put on a good face to try and get a HC gig but the sharks that hire NFL head coaches saw right through him.

And now we learn he tried his junkyard dog tactics on our half-a-billion dollar QB and pissed off just about everyone on offense. And he calls plays like it's Super Tecmo Bowl.

Incompetent and nasty is a bad combination. If he didn't get his nuts clipped, he is a ticking time bomb. Bad juju all around.

Should have just gone with a good soldier like Nagy but Andy gonna Andy.

Did you get to hold the Lombardi trophy at the parade?

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Aside from being black, can someone tell me what this guy brings to the team?

If/when the Chiefs bring back EB and hire Nagy as QB coach/co-OC, some things need to happen. First, only 1 person talks in PMII's headset. Second, put either Nagy or EB in the booth where they can see what the players see. It's not like we don't have enough "quality", "special", or "assistant to the assistant" guys to help them eyeball the field from the booth. Put a couple folding chairs up there if need be. Third, look ahead a down. If it's 2nd and 6, have someone start looking at cool plays for 3rd and 2, 3rd and 5, 3rd and 20, or even 1st and 10. If we can script the 1st 15 plays before the game, surely we can have a clue of what to run 1 play ahead. In other words, no more late plays to our all-universe QB. Good grief, there's a possible 40 seconds between each play. There's no excuse for a play to be late. Fourth, I really don't care who calls the plays as long as Andy can thumb it down. If there's too many thumbs down or plain out bad plays, get a new play caller regardless of title. Finally, if Kelce/Hill/Mahomes comes to the bench and says "this isn't working", put aside any egos and listen to them.

Let's face it, SB LIV was a long time ago. Frank Clark "helped us" win that one. So did Sorenson. Does that mean we have to carry them year after year? Either produce or GTFO, it's the NFL and that means Not For Long if you don't win.

Aside from being our OC for 4 AFCCGs in a row you mean?

Probably not, but he got to guzzle Marty on Valentines Day

Maybe it has to do with a young fellow named Patrick Mahomes II being our QB. But I can't say for sure.

So... coaching doesn't matter?

Depends on the coach. I'd venture that if EB had Elvis Grbac for his QB he wouldn't be nearly as "successful". But that's just my opinion. :evil:

Ignorant argument.

When Belichick lost Brady, his team sucked. Clearly he's a shit coach who should be on the streets.

2nd half playcalling was poor, but Andy always has veto power and could call what he wanted. Most of all, it was Mahomes' poor decision making before the half and at the end of the game that stopped another Super Bowl appearance. And, everyone wants to conveniently ignore the defense that couldn't pressure or tackle Burrow.

Players matter far more than coaches. You think Switzer was a good coach? You think McCarthy is a good coach? Both have Rings. Good coaches can make noise with average QB's. Even a below average coach can win the SB with a great QB.

The only reason coaches like Shanny and Vrabel don't have rings is their QB sucks. Coaching matters but Mahomes is the reason we have a ring and a second SB appearance not his coaches.

our running backs have never been deadlier!

IMO. The only way he might get a head coaching job, if Chiefs agree to pay part of his salary, and give up a 3rd round pick.

Please tell me how you know this?

Did you read our article?

Remember when that goddamned fraud had back-to-back 7-9 seasons in Cleveland as their head coach? Pepperidge Farms remembers. Banish him to the Mountain West to coach the rest of his days where his coaching abilities demands he be.

It's really....something; ya know?

ROFL
LMAO

FYP

The problem is, Clay, is that like 90% of that article details behavior that he's been known for since he was at Colorado...

Yep. And it doesn't fly with "the narrative."

EB's treehouse gang isn't getting what they want and they are throwing a fit.

There needs to be another article.

One that details his arrests...and one in particular...

I actually don't think it's fair to dredge that stuff up. But tigers don't change their stripes. And his behavior last season shouldn't come as a shock to anyone.

The Chiefs tried to put lipstick on a pig with EB. But no one wanted him in the end. Especially when a few oinks slipped out accidentally.

EB is from the streets. And it doesn't surprise me a nice kid from small town Texas doesn't get along with him.

So you're still the same person you were 20 years ago? People can't grow and evolve?

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I didn't waste my time on that trash. Were there direct quotes from anyone sighted? Everything about this situation is nothing but speculation the only people who really know what is going on are the Chiefs and I don't recall them saying anything negative. Also if Patrick didn't get along with EB does anyone believe he would be brought back? Hell no!

[QUOTE=dtrain;16163349]I can't help you, then.

They can become better versions of themselves. But their human nature doesn't really change.

BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK

You keep saying he’s from the streets like it’s this horrible thing. You should probably ****ing stop.

So you'll always be an immature fanboi? But you'll become a BETTER immature fanboi?

That actually makes sense.

That's because no one from the streets could ever be a good productive part of society.

No one is saying that. But this all aligns with the peter principle.

The peter principle? Which is something that applies to basic, tired, bureaucratic corporations who just keep promoting average and borderline competent people because that's the general upward drift of a career?

You seriously think the Chiefs coaching ranks are like that? It's just any old job? Performance doesn't matter?

This doesn't remotely align with the peter principle.

The entire NFL is like that. That's how people like Gunther, Herm, Haley and Pioli get jobs they are terrible at.

100%.

You never truly "get fired" from the NFL.

You just move from Kansas City to Detroit. From Miami to Baltimore. From Philly to Seattle.

Look at Herm Edwards.

He wasn't a marquee player. But he scored the Miracle at the Meadowlands.

And became a coach. And he was such a good DB coach for Tony Dungy...that he became head coach of the Jets.

Wait, what?

Dude has never coordinated a defense. At any level.

5 years in NY (with Paul Hackett as OC - remember, no one EVER truly gets fired) and they've had enough of his shtick there, it's obvious he's in over his head. So what do they do?

Trade him to KC. They need a rebuild.

We were an old team that needed a rebuild.

Dude had no real business being an NFL head coach. Same with Romeo. Those guys flamed out at both stops (Cleveland and here for RC, NY and here for Herm) because they got peter principled.

I don't think you understand the peter principle if you believe external hires like Haley and Pioli fall under it.

This kinda reminds me of your article. It's another attempt to cast the very widest net of nonsense and hope it catches something that's valid.

Stick to your narrative.

Well I think Andy got lazy, sympathetic and intimidated all at once. Meaning, he felt sorry for EB not getting a HC position, regardless of not having a contract with the Chiefs, the optics had to be protected to prevent Flores crap and Andy's system is so complicated that it means somebody coming in from the outside would have to learn from scratch on top of never working with Mahomes. A whole new synchronization and chemistry would start from scratch again. Andy just said, "screw it, I'll just jump Eric's ass behind closed doors and neuter him until he moves on".

It doesn't, they don't, and it shouldn't.

But we need this piece of turgid garbage far, far away from our once in a lifetime generational QB.

I'm increasingly convinced that Chiefs fans are among the dumbest in the NFL, and the players are right that the fanbase is toxic.

I really need to take more breaks in the offseason.

You're operating under the guise that there are actually 32 independent franchises that make all their own decisions, when we know for a fact that isn't really the case at all.

The NFL is a singular entity made up of many moving parts.

When Dick Haley's boy and Bill Parcell's son in law (Pioli) want a ****ing job, they get one. Haley was actually a great WR coach and OC. He may have been a great head coach, had his GM not driven him insane and broke him. We don't know.

But we know they got promotions in KC...for the successes they had elsewhere.

What other industry gives promotions like that to "external hires"???

ROFL
LMAO

Come on. You're an intelligent person.

You can see it.

This is the way.

Bills fans - dumbest
Patriots - most toxic
Fix your shit, DaFace.

Andy has always hung on to coaches past their shelf life. Not saying EB is past his shelf life, just that its kind of his MO. They bitched about it in Philly. But, no way EB is back without Mahomes approval. None. If he thinks it can work out, that's good enough for me.

WTF dude :(

If I hadn't I'd be dead.

This is such a stupid argument. Both of those people had success in their prior roles. That's typically a prerequisite to be poached by other organizations, and that's true in any field. Regardless of the relationships they have.

What world do you live in that you can't see that's pretty standard? I see this every single day in my industry.

It's called a meritocracy. And it's exactly why EB didn't get a head coaching job. Because there's no Oz just pulling the strings behind the scenes based on relationships and optics.

That's not what I said. The point I was making is that EB isn't responsible for our win in SB LIV. I'm not defending or opposing EB or any other coach. What I am saying is that it's a lot easier to win a SB when you have a PMII as your QB. Get good plays to Patrick in a timely fashion.

Funny. I don't recall hearing Bills fans clamoring to gut their coaching staff for no reason when Josh Allen had a rough game against the Chiefs, I don't recall Patriots players calling out their fans for having irrational expectations, and I don't recall Patriots fans ever stalking Brady's family and calling her out for being a normal human being.

I'm not sure if it's all Chiefs fans or just Chiefs fans online, but if I were a FA right now I'd have to seriously consider whether it's worth dealing with the bullshit from ungrateful fans.

This is a message I can get behind

Cant say for sure about the Patriots, but the Bills board looked no different than this one post loss. Blaming the refs, wanting people fired (HC even, not just a puppet OC), etc...

1. It's not "gutting" a coaching staff when you just remove one piece of fatty cancer tissue. That's addition by subtraction.

2. Go cruise by the Bills forums and the Patriots forums sometime.

3. I thought all the Britney/Jackson hate is from Patriots fans/Barstool Sports...but admittedly, I don't keep up with all the latest from TMZ, maybe you can fill us in? Fix that shit, DaFace?