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O.city 05-13-2021 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15672387)
If this were the Pioli/Peterson era Chiefs i'd agree.

But with this scheme, this coaching staff, this supporting cast, this track record of succes, i think at the very least his floor is Jason Avant.

I just make it a rule for myself not to get to high or low on anyone drafted after the 4th round either way.

staylor26 05-13-2021 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15672327)
When you watch the senior bowl 1v1's, it's apparent that Powell does not have the wiggle that some of his counter parts do.

Guys like Tylan Wallace look significantly looser than our tank-ish WR in Powell.

I don't know what that means, or if anything at all as it relates to his ability to separate. It's just an observation.

Powell really gives me Jason Avant vibes. He was a serviceable player for Reid. One of Reid's favorites.

But even without that wiggle, he was still one of the best of Senior Bowl week in 1 on 1’s. He won most of his reps and was consistent throughout the week.

ToxSocks 05-13-2021 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15672390)
I just make it a rule for myself not to get to high or low on anyone drafted after the 4th round either way.

I guess it depends on what those expectations are.

I don't have any statistical expectations. Matter of fact, i expect him to be buried on the depth chart for a little while.

My expectations are about the quality of play he'll deliver in his limited amount of touches. What does he do when they throw his way? What's his YPA when they hand it off to him?

That kinda stuff.

Pitt Gorilla 05-13-2021 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15672348)
His path to winning starts with his release/footwork it would seem and is going to have less to do with pure athleticism like acceleration or speed.

I still think there’s something about him that reminds me of AJ Brown, the frame and build I suppose. Similar athleticism. But Brown gets great releases and is excellent at the catch point.

I think Powell’s ceiling is what Brown is. Will be unlikely he ever gets there though.

If Powell is ANYWHERE near AJ Brown, it's a ****ing win. I honestly didn't know that he was that fast (4.49). Brown and Samuel are two of my favorite non-Chief receivers.

Pitt Gorilla 05-13-2021 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15672375)
AJ Brown.

Deebo Samuel.

Anquan Bolden.

Those are all similar comps.

AJ and Deebo are the Anquans of the current era. Except that in 2021 those types of guys get often used as running backs. These so-called revolutionary offenses of McVeigh and Shanahan use these types of players to execute those schemes.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the 2021 Chiefs offense has some Shanahan/McVeigh type run concepts sprinkled in and featuring Powell.

Again, if he's anywhere close to that, it's sexy time.

htismaqe 05-13-2021 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15672557)
Again, if he's anywhere close to that, it's sexy time.

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Bowser 05-13-2021 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15672327)
When you watch the senior bowl 1v1's, it's apparent that Powell does not have the wiggle that some of his counter parts do.

Guys like Tylan Wallace look significantly looser than our tank-ish WR in Powell.

I don't know what that means, or if anything at all as it relates to his ability to separate. It's just an observation.

Powell really gives me Jason Avant vibes. He was a serviceable player for Reid. One of Reid's favorites.

But here's the thing......Powell doesn't HAVE to have the wiggle and twitch in "this" offense with the players he'll have around him and the QB he has throwing to him. All he has to do is run solid routes and have reliable hands, and he will fill that #2 role perfectly and get plenty of looks from the double teams Hill and Kelce will be dealing with.

htismaqe 05-13-2021 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15672624)
But here's the thing......Powell doesn't HAVE to have the wiggle and twitch in "this" offense with the players he'll have around him and the QB he has throwing to him. All he has to do is run solid routes and have reliable hands, and he will fill that #2 role perfectly and get plenty of looks from the double teams Hill and Kelce will be dealing with.

Exactly. He brings something different to the offense. That's a good thing.

JakeF 05-14-2021 10:09 AM

Breakdown of a few of Powell's routes during the Senior Bowl.

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Dante84 05-14-2021 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15673832)
Breakdown of a few of Powell's routes during the Senior Bowl.

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That was cool, I enjoyed the breakdown and that level of detail

Halfcan 05-14-2021 11:57 PM

He is going to fit in great! What a steal!

RunKC 05-30-2021 09:19 AM

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Another great catch by this kid in OTA’s. He’s got potential

slapnutz_4 05-30-2021 12:17 PM

I guess on the times ours podcast Nate Taylor comped him to someone. Anyone happen to listen to it?

Dante84 05-30-2021 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by slapnutz_4 (Post 15691121)
I guess on the times ours podcast Nate Taylor comped him to someone. Anyone happen to listen to it?

Sammy.

He was just saying that the Chiefs must have watched tape and saw him running the same routes at Clemson. He said it feels like the team is more excited about Powell then they are letting on.

Easy 6 05-30-2021 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15691038)
Another great catch by this kid in OTA’s. He’s got potential

I'm not even worried that he isn't as twitchy as Sammy or whoever, that maybe he can't get wide open quite as easily... at all

When you watch him play, it becomes apparent that his very muscular 6'0 210 build is enough to simply outmuscle most DBs

Throw in that high point leaping ability, and its kinda easy to understand why hopes are so high for a 5th rounder... he doesn't have to get Kelce or Reek open, just catch the tough throws that come his way

ChiefsFanatic 05-31-2021 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15672624)
But here's the thing......Powell doesn't HAVE to have the wiggle and twitch in "this" offense with the players he'll have around him and the QB he has throwing to him. All he has to do is run solid routes and have reliable hands, and he will fill that #2 role perfectly and get plenty of looks from the double teams Hill and Kelce will be dealing with.

And CP needs to not lose its shit when Powell doesn't catch 70 balls for 1,000 yards, or declare him a bust when he doesn't put up twice as much production as Hardman.

As long as Tyreek and Kelce are playing with Mahomes, in this offense, it will take a true NFL #1 or #2 wide receiver to impact their productivity, or elevate the productivity of the WR2 position.

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Dante84 06-03-2021 09:32 PM

Mahomes, from the presser today:
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…and when asked specifically about tight end Noah Gray and wide receiver Cornell Powell, Mahomes suggested that those young careers were already off to a promising start.

"They can work. They know how to get out there and make plays happen. Noah has been really good - I think he has a veteran-type skillset where he knows how to get himself open even if it's not exactly what the play is designed to do. He knows how to get his eyes back and how to get on the quarterback's timing," Mahomes explained. "Then Cornell, he's a beast. He's big out there, running across the field and making some big catches in some tough, contested spots."

BWillie 06-03-2021 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15696168)
Mahomes, from the presser today:

Im ready for some god damned Chiefs football.

Dunerdr 06-04-2021 05:55 AM

I am ready to start our super bowl march. The NFL really needs a 10 game type spring league. Develop coaches and players and mostly entertain my fat ass.

Skyy God 06-05-2021 09:10 AM

JIMP

“He didn’t run the fastest 40 time,” McShay said. “But when they put the GPS on those guys down at the Senior Bowl, on Tuesday practice, he ran the fastest of any of the players there. There’s one thing to run a great 40, but to have football speed, that’s what he has.”

Halfcan 06-05-2021 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 15697708)
JIMP

“He didn’t run the fastest 40 time,” McShay said. “But when they put the GPS on those guys down at the Senior Bowl, on Tuesday practice, he ran the fastest of any of the players there. There’s one thing to run a great 40, but to have football speed, that’s what he has.”

:thumb:

Thanks for posting this. I was actually wondering about Powell's speed. He got dinged in the draft for it--but when you watch his highlights; he looks quick. Sammy kind of speed.

KChiefs1 06-06-2021 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 15696353)
I am ready to start our super bowl march. The NFL really needs a 10 game type spring league. Develop coaches and players and mostly entertain my fat ass.


I miss the World League & NFL Europe. That was entertaining football.

kcbubb 08-23-2021 06:26 PM

Any chance that Powell doesn’t make the team? Fountain has looked good.

kcbubb 08-23-2021 06:28 PM

https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs/podcas...ficult-problem

kccrow 08-23-2021 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 15796998)
Any chance that Powell doesn’t make the team? Fountain has looked good.

I'd say there's 2 slots available so they could easily both make it.

kcclone 08-23-2021 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15797003)
I'd say there's 2 slots available so they could easily both make it.


I look at it as 3 spot between Kemp, Fountain, Powell, Bell and Fortson.

We're not keeping all of them. You hope that you sign 3 and one of the 2 cut, makes it to the PS.

Dante84 08-23-2021 07:15 PM

Powell has a slow learning curve it sounds like, looking backwards at how camp went and his college career.

His work ethic and talent have been praised by EB, Mahomes and Hill. I think a year on IR, getting practice reps and sitting in the classroom could be really good for him.

Wish he would have balled from the jump, but it is what it is.

kcbubb 08-23-2021 07:50 PM

Powell doesn’t seem to have great short area quickness. I watched the eagles in preseason and even though Devonta smith didn’t do a lot, you could see his quickness in his cuts. I don’t see that in Powell. He seems like he might be pretty good a lot of things but not exceptional at anything. I’m not as excited about him as I once was.

Kiimo 08-23-2021 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 15797116)
Powell doesn’t seem to have great short area quickness. I watched the eagles in preseason and even though Devonta smith didn’t do a lot, you could see his quickness in his cuts. I don’t see that in Powell. He seems like he might be pretty good a lot of things but not exceptional at anything. I’m not as excited about him as I once was.

To be fair comparing a 5th round draft pick to the Heisman winner you may see some differences

tredadda 08-23-2021 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kcclone (Post 15797019)
I look at it as 3 spot between Kemp, Fountain, Powell, Bell and Fortson.

We're not keeping all of them. You hope that you sign 3 and one of the 2 cut, makes it to the PS.

I could be wrong, but I expect Bell to make the team. KC brought him back for a reason and it was not his soft hands. He was brought back as a blocker and I don't believe Fortson or Gray demonstrated that part of their game enough to make Reid comfortable cutting Bell.

TwistedChief 08-23-2021 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 15797116)
Powell doesn’t seem to have great short area quickness. I watched the eagles in preseason and even though Devonta smith didn’t do a lot, you could see his quickness in his cuts. I don’t see that in Powell. He seems like he might be pretty good a lot of things but not exceptional at anything. I’m not as excited about him as I once was.

I wonder if you were more willing to accept Devonta Smith's lack of production in the preseason because he was a generational receiver in college drafted in the first round versus our fifth round pick who was always a work in progress.

It might just be possible that you had unwarranted excitement that we stole some guy in the 5th round who was only slightly inferior to Devona Smith.

And if you got sucked into that hype trap, it's on you, not Powell or Veach or the Chiefs.

Kiimo 08-23-2021 08:02 PM

Also Devanta Smith weighs like a buck fifty



He better hope he's fast haha

Dunerdr 08-23-2021 08:03 PM

He’s a 5th round receiver, were you disappointed demarcus Robinson didn’t ball out year one?

tredadda 08-23-2021 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 15797153)
He’s a 5th round receiver, were you disappointed demarcus Robinson didn’t ball out year one?

I'm disappointed he doesn't ball out now.

kcbubb 08-23-2021 08:18 PM

The point with bringing up Devonta smith is that Powell is not quick, slow building up to speed, looks like more of a track guy where his speed doesn’t translate to the field. I wasn’t comparing the players just asking about his skill. What is Powell’s strength? I don’t see him pushing Robinson or any of other receivers. Fountain is probably better.

Kiimo 08-23-2021 08:22 PM

We understood what you meant. And you're right, he's not fast.


Devanta is uncommonly quick and good at routes though it's just a funny comparison

kcbubb 08-23-2021 08:23 PM

I wish we had a guy trying to make the team that could push our wr group. You can see the competition on d-line. WRs look pretty comfortable on the sideline during these games. If we had a guy like this maybe the competition would be better??

https://youtu.be/Uy4reBDqqKI

BuckeyeTheDog 08-23-2021 08:24 PM

Personally, I’ve never believed in Powell’s game.

To me, it’s a wasted pick.

Hope I’m wrong.

RealSNR 08-23-2021 08:38 PM

Where's BWillie to tell us he was banking on Powell being our #2 WR?

tredadda 08-23-2021 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeTheDog (Post 15797200)
Personally, I’ve never believed in Powell’s game.

To me, it’s a wasted pick.

Hope I’m wrong.

This is a very complex offense. I will give him a year or two before passing judgment. What receiver has come in here as a rookie and dominated?

Dunerdr 08-23-2021 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15797169)
I'm disappointed he doesn't ball out now.

He runs with the ball out :banghead:

tredadda 08-23-2021 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 15797239)
He runs with the ball out :banghead:

And backwards. Can't forget backwards.

Pitt Gorilla 08-23-2021 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15797238)
This is a very complex offense. I will give him a year or two before passing judgment. What receiver has come in here as a rookie and dominated?

Pretty much this. Probably stash him on PS for a bit.

Deberg_1990 08-23-2021 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15797238)
What receiver has come in here as a rookie and dominated?

Tyreek?

KChiefs1 08-27-2021 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15797234)
Where's BWillie to tell us he was banking on Powell being our #2 WR?


Another PS guy.

Hoover 08-27-2021 12:44 PM

I love it when people shout down others on a football message board for actually talking about players. Overhyping guys in the preseason is just what fans do. I mean I'm still waiting for Jesse Haynes or whatever his name was to dominate at HB, or the fat **** Joe Hall at FB... SNR is probably correct, Fountain isn't likely to emerge as a top option at WR, especially with the balls that CEH, Hill, and Kelce will demand.

Still so long as its football, I don't really seem the harm in any of it.

saphojunkie 08-27-2021 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15797296)
Tyreek?

Yes. But the options aren't "fastest WR in the NFL on the road to being best in the league" and "worthless."

there are possibilities between those two.

I'll be surprised if Powell makes the team, and more surprised if he's signed off our practice squad by another team.

JPH83 08-27-2021 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 15802865)
I love it when people shout down others on a football message board for actually talking about players. Overhyping guys in the preseason is just what fans do. I mean I'm still waiting for Jesse Haynes or whatever his name was to dominate at HB, or the fat **** Joe Hall at FB... SNR is probably correct, Fountain isn't likely to emerge as a top option at WR, especially with the balls that CEH, Hill, and Kelce will demand.

Still so long as its football, I don't really seem the harm in any of it.

Yep, I mean what else is there to get excited about preseason. Let us all have our fantasies about identifying the practice squad hidden gem, we all end up looking dumbasses when they're cut anyway. The crime is also the punishment.

saphojunkie 08-27-2021 03:44 PM

Why would we ever believe that another team's undrafted castoff would be in any way a valuable starter for us?

Charvarious, you have any thoughts?

JakeF 08-27-2021 04:02 PM

I think the chiefs decided early on that they were going to stash Powell on the Practice Squad so they didn't give him any reps.

GingaChief 10-25-2021 09:35 AM

Any news on this kid?

MMXcalibur 10-25-2021 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GingaChief (Post 15913328)
Any news on this kid?

His account got deleted

Coochie liquor 10-25-2021 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MMXcalibur (Post 15913332)
His account got deleted

Wait, he was FlintHillsChief??

Rainbarrel 10-25-2021 10:47 AM

DC flags at half staff

RealSNR 10-25-2021 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GingaChief (Post 15913328)
Any news on this kid?

Full-blown AIDS. Tough break for the guy.

Tribal Warfare 10-25-2021 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15913481)
Full-blown AIDS. Tough break for the guy.


Magic Johnson saw a glory hole mistook Powell's 1st name as an invitation in a men's restroom at a truckstop. The dude won't ever sitdown the same again.

Simply Red 10-27-2022 09:40 PM

did this guy die? thks

KC Hawks 10-27-2022 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 16559393)
did this guy die? thks

yip, about a year ago! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Powell

KChiefs1 10-27-2022 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 16559393)
did this guy die? thks


Powell was waived by the Chiefs and signed to their practice squad the next day.


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carcosa 10-27-2022 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 16559402)

Lmao

Dante84 10-27-2022 11:56 PM

Oof. Bummed this was a whiff. Loved this guy during pre-draft. Must not have it.

scho63 10-28-2022 01:26 AM

Colonel Powell did it in the Library with a Lead Pipe

Rainbarrel 10-28-2022 02:17 AM

Only drafting WRs in lower rounds, except twice a decade. Will make a fanbase a little beyond optimistic. Cough, Ross, cough

Peter Gibbons 10-28-2022 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16559518)
Colonel Powell did it in the Library with a Lead Pipe

If he doesn’t make, he can just go back to being Secretary of State again.

BWillie 10-28-2022 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15797234)
Where's BWillie to tell us he was banking on Powell being our #2 WR?

Never did I ever.

Simply Red 07-02-2023 08:39 PM

Is this guy going to be bagging groceries at the Winn Dixie soon, or? Did he even play on ST last season, anyone recall?

Dark Horse 07-02-2023 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 17003515)
Is this guy going to be bagging groceries at the Winn Dixie soon, or? Did he even play on ST last season, anyone recall?

I don’t know much about playing wide receiver in the NFL but I think Andy should use him to follow the starters around and slap people for them in case they board the wrong boat

smithandrew051 07-02-2023 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 17003515)
Is this guy going to be bagging groceries at the Winn Dixie soon, or? Did he even play on ST last season, anyone recall?

He’ll be lucky to have 2,000 yards this year. I conservatively am penciling him in for a modest 1,700 and 26 TDs.

RealSNR 07-03-2023 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 17003515)
Is this guy going to be bagging groceries at the Winn Dixie soon, or? Did he even play on ST last season, anyone recall?

Nah, he's good enough. I'll bet he could make Hy-Vee

Simply Red 10-21-2023 06:22 PM

I still belief!

Dark Horse 10-21-2023 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 17180168)
I still belief!

Me too wait what are we beliefing in?

Bowser 10-21-2023 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 17180168)
I still belief!

BELIEF

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smithandrew051 10-21-2023 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17003582)
He’ll be lucky to have 2,000 yards this year. I conservatively am penciling him in for a modest 1,700 and 26 TDs.

I’m…uh…not very confident in this prediction

Simply Red 10-21-2023 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17180194)
I’m…uh…not very confident in this prediction

he's about to hit a streak!!

Simply Red 10-21-2023 07:18 PM

So I don't buy many cards, but from time to time I'll find Blaster Panini's for 90% off, so the box is like 2.49 or something - anyhow, I finally pulled a badass numbered refractor prism red ice or some shit, and it's ****ing Cornell Powell. Sucked for value. The card is badass though.

smithandrew051 10-21-2023 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 17180221)
he's about to hit a streak!!

Only if this thread hits 42069 posts (lmfao) by midnight. LFG!!!

Eleazar 10-21-2023 08:11 PM

Did we sign this POS from the practice squad yet?

Dark Horse 10-21-2023 09:18 PM

I believe that if there are 10 parallel universes in 9 out of 10 Cornell Powell is an all pro receiver unfortunately he plays for the Chiefs in the 1 outlier

Simply Red 10-21-2023 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Horse (Post 17180338)
I believe that if there are 10 parallel universes in 9 out of 10 Cornell Powell is an all pro receiver unfortunately he plays for the Chiefs in the 1 outlier

I'm not sure what his problem is. Sure looks the part. I'd be interested in hearing Andy's honest take on him, what he's not seeing, etc.

Dark Horse 10-21-2023 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 17180346)
I'm not sure what his problem is. Sure looks the part. I'd be interested in hearing Andy's honest take on him, what he's not seeing, etc.

Yeah Andy’s not going to say anything bad about him so we will likely not ever know what the problem is


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