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rabblerouser 01-13-2020 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TurdsMckenzie (Post 14720513)
I'm not trying to argue anything really. I'm just counteracting some of the comments being made. Titans playing on the road isn't a real talking point. Tannehill not having to throw last two games isn't a real talking point. But that's what some people are basing the game on. I didn't think Titans would beat Patriots or Ravens because just thought they were inferior. They did though and they did it on road. I agree context matters. Someone called Lamar Jackson a running back... The guy there 36 tds. People are saying Tannehill sucks as he finished top 10 all-time for passer rating, completion percentage, yards per attempt. I'm reading comments saying two of the best QBs in the NFL are nobody.

Lamar Jackson threw 36 TDs against Miami, Arizona, the Jets, Clevelandx2, Cincyx2, Pittsburghx2, et al.

We did the same thing to them in week 3 that Tennessee did on Saturday- get up on them and force them to throw. Jackson started heaving ducks and jump balls. And they lost.

Sassy Squatch 01-13-2020 08:41 AM

That offense is predicated on Derrick Henry. Period. Tannehill has a completion percentage of almost 76% and a passer rating of 143 when throwing out of play action, which he does over a quarter of the time. If you can take that away by jumping out to a big lead Tannehill will still be decent but not unstoppable.

Oxford 01-13-2020 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by FAH-Q (Post 14718665)
The worry here is that Henry gets his, and Tits control the clock, limiting our opportunities to score and controlling the tempo of the game. They won’t have to worry about keeping up if they control the time of possession for 70% of the game.

I agree.... we have to get them off the field on 3rd/4th down. Then score the TD. I wonder if we see a lot of 46 defense in this game? I wonder about playing a 5 down lineman set to confuse the blocking versus a 4 man line .

Is Tannehill mobile?

dirk digler 01-13-2020 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14720510)
We lost Rankin in that game. And Allegretti(?) and Wiz came in at one point.

Forgot about that and they only sacked Mahomes twice.

That game was also the only game that Hill had over 100 yds receiving with 157 and I forgot about the fact he got hurt in the 2nd quarter IIRC and missed the next 3 weeks.

neech 01-13-2020 08:43 AM

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O.city 01-13-2020 08:46 AM

The Titans have won with their QB throwing for a combined 150 yards in two games.

Over my life, I've seen the chiefs have great running games. I know how that works in the playoffs when you get behind.

TurdsMckenzie 01-13-2020 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 14720419)
Nick Foles says hi

Top 5 passer rating for a single season... Rodgers, Peyton, Foles... Tannehill is 4th. People are sleeping in Tannehill. He can dime it into places you shouldn't even throw if it's less than 15 yards and might be the most accurate passer I've seen throwing on the run. And he throws 40 yard bombs on the money. Plus he has massive targets. People are really underestimating what he can do. He also scores pretty much anytime the Titans are in red zone.

Mecca 01-13-2020 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TurdsMckenzie (Post 14720546)
Too 4 passer ratings for a single season... Rodgers, Peyton, Foles... Tannehill is 4th. People are sleeping in Tannehill. He can dime it into places you shouldn't even throw if it's less than 15 yards and might be the most accurate passer I've seen throwing on the run. And he throws 40 yard bombs on the money. Plus he has massive targets. People are really underestimating what he can do. He also scores pretty much anytime the Titans are in red zone.

There's a reason he got dumped by Miami......he is basically at best Alex Smith. If you get ahead of them and take them out of their game he is going to struggle.

BigRedChief 01-13-2020 08:51 AM

We need the Bellicheck scheme, Take away their best player. Make someone else beat you.

We need to blitz every play. Fill running lanes. 8 men in the box, Go man on man outside. Force Tannehill to beat us throwing the ball. Seems pretty simple plan to me. Execution could trip up the plan but how else would you scheme it?

Also, take the ball if you win the coin flip. Try to get up early and force them out of running the ball the catch up.

Sassy Squatch 01-13-2020 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14720556)
We need the Bellicheck scheme, Take away their best player. Make someone else beat you.

We need to blitz every play. Fill running lanes. 8 men in the box, Go man on man outside. Force Tannehill to beat us throwing the ball. Seems pretty simple plan to me. Execution could trip up the plan but how else would you scheme it?

Also, take the ball if you win the coin flip. Try to get up early and force them to not run the ball the catch up.

Reid said he designed some plays for use against the Patriots, right? Now's as good a time as any to break those bad boys out.

Megatron96 01-13-2020 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TurdsMckenzie (Post 14720513)
I'm not trying to argue anything really. I'm just counteracting some of the comments being made. Titans playing on the road isn't a real talking point. Tannehill not having to throw last two games isn't a real talking point. But that's what some people are basing the game on. I didn't think Titans would beat Patriots or Ravens because just thought they were inferior. They did though and they did it on road. I agree context matters. Someone called Lamar Jackson a running back... The guy there 36 tds. People are saying Tannehill sucks as he finished top 10 all-time for passer rating, completion percentage, yards per attempt. I'm reading comments saying two of the best QBs in the NFL are nobody.

"counteracting some of the comments being made . . ." is essentially trying to develop an argument. A case. But that's semantics . . .


I wouldn't describe Tannehill as a "nobody." I think it's more accurate to describe him as "limited." He doesn't seem to possess elite arm strength or talent. He pre-snap reads are only correct about half the time. He often doesn't find the open receiver when blitzed/pressured.

But he's tough, mobile, a tough tackle, and isn't scared to pull the trigger in any moment. Whoever is running the TEN offense seems to be getting about as much efficiency out of Tannehill as he can, but as we saw in the Patriots game, put him consistently in 3rd-and-long situations, and Tannehill has trouble converting for 1st downs. Part of that might've been the lack of elite weapons available, or maybe inconsistent play-calling, or even variable play design quality. Or maybe a combination of all of the above.

Regardless, Tannehill had a lot of trouble converting 3rd downs with his arm against the Patriots. And some trouble again against the Ravens, if we can use the "50% of possessions resulting in a score" statistic as a ruler.

Lamar has some of the same limitation issues as a passer. He doesn't possess elite level accuracy. His pre-snap reads are driven entirely on what his pre-snap motion tells him. And he's wrong often. He doesn't have elite talent at receiver. He doesn't have much ability to manipulate defenses in-play with either his eyes or his body yet. And he doesn't throw with very much anticipation. Consequently, GR has designed a passing attack that is predicated on getting to 3rd and short, using motion to overload one side, and short throws on one read designs.

Force him to sit in the pocket and read a defense and he has trouble. At least right now.

Overall, I think that Tannehill is a better, or more well-rounded QB than Lamar, but that's obvious; Tannehill has more than a decade more experience in the NFl to work with.

Mecca 01-13-2020 08:56 AM

You just play them the way the Patriots did yes Henry got his but they scored 14 points on offense, they do that here and they lose.

Megatron96 01-13-2020 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Oxford (Post 14720531)
I agree.... we have to get them off the field on 3rd/4th down. Then score the TD. I wonder if we see a lot of 46 defense in this game? I wonder about playing a 5 down lineman set to confuse the blocking versus a 4 man line .

Is Tannehill mobile?

He played WR in college, IIRC. He can run and knows how to be a little shifty.

TurdsMckenzie 01-13-2020 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14720433)
The point was probably that when Tennessee got up on a quick lead vs Baltimore everyone knew the game was over. Tennessee turned lamar into a passing qb. Kudos to the D and O for getting the job done early. Tennessee still probably pulls it off but that game would look really different if the ravens made a stop or scored early.

I personally thought Titans might lose until they prevented the 2pt conversion. I can see the point that QBs and coaches play different based on circumstances. I watched Vince Young comeback against Cardinals and Giants. Down 21 in 4th. Going 99 yards in 2 minutes. McNair a yard short to Dyson in Super Bowl. Titans music City miracle. I'm more just reminiscing now :)

Sassy Squatch 01-13-2020 08:58 AM

I'm pretty surprised the line is -7.5 for Chiefs.

MIAdragon 01-13-2020 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14720579)
I'm pretty surprised the line is -7.5 for Chiefs.

That’s just for the first quarter.

TurdsMckenzie 01-13-2020 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14720471)
Tennessee feels like the overconfident group here if these posters are any indication of their whole fan base.....

Henry is going to get his but at the end of the game, if the Titans don’t have at least 31 points, they’re probably going to lose. And they can definitely score that much but I wouldn’t bet on it.

Not overconfident in any way. I thought Titans would lose to Patriots, Ravens and now Chiefs. But the posters here think Tannehill setting records is garbage, that MVP Lamar us overrated and one playoff win merits an automatic win. Titans are not a 9-7 team. Mariota was 2-4 and Tannehill is 9-3 knocking off the best team in the NFL. People are saying Titans defense sucks and offense has no weapons outside of Henry. I guess Ravens and Patriots have nobody and the entire NFL sucks, trophy already belongs to the Chiefs.

Megatron96 01-13-2020 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14720579)
I'm pretty surprised the line is -7.5 for Chiefs.

Vegas thinks that TEN will run all over us; partly they're using stats from the regular season game. They think that the Chiefs offense will be as inefficient scoring as they were back in week 10, or whatever. They're giving a nod to the Titans defense; they think they forced us to kick FGs, not that we simply weren't in sync. Some books might figure it out and the line will move. Maybe 2 points. Already took the -7.5. Definitely not going to see a better number than that.

Mecca 01-13-2020 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TurdsMckenzie (Post 14720587)
Not overconfident in any way. I thought Titans would lose to Patriots, Ravens and now Chiefs. But the posters here think Tannehill setting records is garbage, that MVP Lamar us overrated and one playoff win merits an automatic win. Titans are not a 9-7 team. Mariota was 2-4 and Tannehill is 9-3 knocking off the best team in the NFL. People are saying Titans defense sucks and offense has no weapons outside of Henry. I guess Ravens and Patriots have nobody and the entire NFL sucks, trophy already belongs to the Chiefs.

The Titans pass D sucks and they got lucky enough to play 2 teams that suck at throwing the ball.

FringeNC 01-13-2020 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14720589)
The Titans pass D sucks and they got lucky enough to play 2 teams that suck at throwing the ball.

Yep.

neech 01-13-2020 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TurdsMckenzie (Post 14720587)
Not overconfident in any way. I thought Titans would lose to Patriots, Ravens and now Chiefs. But the posters here think Tannehill setting records is garbage, that MVP Lamar us overrated and one playoff win merits an automatic win. Titans are not a 9-7 team. Mariota was 2-4 and Tannehill is 9-3 knocking off the best team in the NFL. People are saying Titans defense sucks and offense has no weapons outside of Henry. I guess Ravens and Patriots have nobody and the entire NFL sucks, trophy already belongs to the Chiefs.

Well it is called The Lamar Hunt Trophy after all.

ptlyon 01-13-2020 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TurdsMckenzie (Post 14720587)
Not overconfident in any way. I thought Titans would lose to Patriots, Ravens and now Chiefs. But the posters here think Tannehill setting records is garbage, that MVP Lamar us overrated and one playoff win merits an automatic win. Titans are not a 9-7 team. Mariota was 2-4 and Tannehill is 9-3 knocking off the best team in the NFL. People are saying Titans defense sucks and offense has no weapons outside of Henry. I guess Ravens and Patriots have nobody and the entire NFL sucks, trophy already belongs to the Chiefs.

Who's that?

BigRedChief 01-13-2020 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 14720586)
That’s just for the first quarter.

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TurdsMckenzie 01-13-2020 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14720527)
Lamar Jackson threw 36 TDs against Miami, Arizona, the Jets, Clevelandx2, Cincyx2, Pittsburghx2, et al.

We did the same thing to them in week 3 that Tennessee did on Saturday- get up on them and force them to throw. Jackson started heaving ducks and jump balls. And they lost.

Hopefully that works out for the Chiefs. Since Lamar Jackson did it against teams he beat, I guess Tannehill will win against the Chiefs, agaun. Patriots beat the Dolphins, until they didn't. I'm not sure why people can't grasp that the regular season no longer matters in the playoffs.

RunKC 01-13-2020 09:13 AM

This is the type of game that will emphasize how big of a pick up Suggs is. He’s not a young energetic rusher anymore, but he’s a damn good run defender on the edge.

I’d like up in a beat front with 3 DT’s and have Clark/Suggs on the edge with Ragland crashing running lanes.

TurdsMckenzie 01-13-2020 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14720507)
Whatever you gotta tell yourself, sweetheart.

I admire your use of (over) confidence. It will carry you through the week, and then, on Sunday, you come back here after we score 50 points on your team, Shirley.

Over-confident would be believing you'll score 50 points when it happened 1 time out of 17 games just because it happened the other day one time. Titans already beat the Chiefs one time. Vikings and Rams great offenses are enjoying not winning a Super Bowl. Maga

Sassy Squatch 01-13-2020 09:17 AM

I'm not sure why people can't grasp that the regular season no longer matters in the playoffs.

Titans already beat the Chiefs one time.

LMAO couldn't even go 1 post without contradicting yourself.

TurdsMckenzie 01-13-2020 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14720500)
Well, so did the Texans in week 6.

How much did it matter yesterday with Mahomes back at full strength?

It didn't. Just like the Ravens and Patriots playing at home with a better record than the Titans.

Fat Elvis 01-13-2020 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14720609)
This is the type of game that will emphasize how big of a pick up Suggs is. He’s not a young energetic rusher anymore, but he’s a damn good run defender on the edge.

I’d like up in a beat front with 3 DT’s and have Clark/Suggs on the edge with Ragland crashing running lanes.

Yeah, Suggs is perfect for going against the Titans. It will be really interesting to see what Spags does with this D against Henry. The prospect of 3 DTs + Suggs and Clark on the edge is something I hadn't considered before. I like how you think.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-13-2020 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TurdsMckenzie (Post 14720587)
Not overconfident in any way. I thought Titans would lose to Patriots, Ravens and now Chiefs. But the posters here think Tannehill setting records is garbage, that MVP Lamar us overrated and one playoff win merits an automatic win. Titans are not a 9-7 team. Mariota was 2-4 and Tannehill is 9-3 knocking off the best team in the NFL. People are saying Titans defense sucks and offense has no weapons outside of Henry. I guess Ravens and Patriots have nobody and the entire NFL sucks, trophy already belongs to the Chiefs.

Oh GTFO. You’re the noob, no one on here thinks the Patriots or Ravens suck. You can find posts from yours truly as recent as last Saturday/Sunday where I said that Tennessee isn’t a true 9-7 team and would give the Ravens a battle.

They still shouldn’t win this AFCCG and the odds reflect that. Doesn’t mean they won’t.

warpaint* 01-13-2020 09:31 AM

The Titans are playing well....I expect them to give the Chiefs a fight. Henry is a truck & I do think it's possible they could win.

But they're bringing a popgun offense to town. Tannyhill threw for like 100 yards both games. That ain't gonna work. Their only hope is for the Chiefs to screw around offensively. For more than one quarter apparently judging by yesterday.

Chiefs cover.

patteeu 01-13-2020 09:31 AM

Personally, I’m looking past the Titans. I’m focused on whether the Chiefs SB opponent will be Green Bay or San Fran.

BlackOp 01-13-2020 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TurdsMckenzie (Post 14720587)
Titans are not a 9-7 team. Mariota was 2-4 and Tannehill is 9-3 knocking off the best team in the NFL.

That's a fair assessment...and if KC was rolling into the AFCCG by beating both the Patriots/Raven, on the road, we would all be ecstatic. Your team just completed the Chiefs worst-case-scenario...nobody, here, wanted those 2 teams on the road.

Titans absolutely deserve to be playing next Sunday...they earned it.

That said...Mahomes being down 24-0 then coming back was probably the worst case scenario for Tennessee. Chiefs are awake now...that was some seriously transcendent offense. They also lost the previous match-up...so nothing will be taken for granted.

It's really, really hard to win 3 times, on the road, in the playoffs.

DJ's left nut 01-13-2020 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TurdsMckenzie (Post 14720466)
Ravens points scored: 531
Chiefs points scored: 451

Ravens offenseive yards: 6,646
Chiefs offensive yards: 6,259

Ravens point differential: +249
Chiefs point differentisl: +143

Lamar Jackson is MVP.

Add in..

Ravens points allowed: 282
Chiefs points allowed: 308

Ravens record: 14-2
Chiefs record: 12-4

Ravens finished season going 12-0
Chiefs finished season going 6-0 with their last loss being against the Titans.

Cute. Lol.

Chiefs points scored: 451
Titans points scored: 402

Chiefs offensive yards: 6,067
Titans offensive yards: 5,805

Chiefs point differential: +143
Titans point differential: +71

Patrick Mahomes is the best player in football.

Add in..

Chiefs points allowed: 308
Titans points allowed: 331

Chiefs record: 12-4
Titans record: 9-7

Chiefs finished season going 7-0 with their last game being a blitzkreig over the team that won the Titans division.

Titans needed to beat a resting Texans squad to even make the playoffs before beating Zombie Brady and the best throwing runningback in the league

Cute is right.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-13-2020 09:38 AM

Really hope Jones is ready to rock and the whole DL for that matter. Tennessee’s OL has been pushing people around up front.

This game will be a great tuneup for a potential matchup with SF, if both teams win.

ptlyon 01-13-2020 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 14720646)
The Titans are playing well....I expect them to give the Chiefs a fight. Henry is a truck & I do think it's possible they could win.

But they're bringing a popgun offense to town. Tannyhill threw for like 100 yards both games. That ain't gonna work. Their only hope is for the Chiefs to screw around offensively. For more than one quarter apparently judging by yesterday.

Chiefs cover.

Chiefs did that yesterday too

TurdsMckenzie 01-13-2020 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14720549)
There's a reason he got dumped by Miami......he is basically at best Alex Smith. If you get ahead of them and take them out of their game he is going to struggle.

Dolphins dumped everyone. Because their coaches are terrible. Not surprising guys like Tannehill and Stills are good on teams that can make the playoffs. How is top 10 passer rating, top 10 completion percentage, top 10 yards per attempt basically like Alex Smith. All-time... Not top 10 this season but all-time. In his first year with a new team. I guess you'll see next week but don't be surprised if forced to throw he'll go off. Even the other day he had 3tds to Henry's 1.

duncan_idaho 01-13-2020 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TurdsMckenzie (Post 14720606)
Hopefully that works out for the Chiefs. Since Lamar Jackson did it against teams he beat, I guess Tannehill will win against the Chiefs, agaun. Patriots beat the Dolphins, until they didn't. I'm not sure why people can't grasp that the regular season no longer matters in the playoffs.


No previous outcome MATTERS in the playoffs, but what they show us about matchups and tendencies can inform expectations of outcomes.

Lamar Jackson is a great QB and a good player. But at this stage in his career, he also kind of needs the game to stay on schedule/script to be effective as a passer.

It’s not dissimilar to Tannehill, actually. Who is best when the play-action game is set up and he’s in third and medium or less.

Tannehill fits that scheme and setup nicely. He still has things to prove when he consistently faces 3rd and long, as we saw against New England.

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14720609)
This is the type of game that will emphasize how big of a pick up Suggs is. He’s not a young energetic rusher anymore, but he’s a damn good run defender on the edge.

I’d like up in a beat front with 3 DT’s and have Clark/Suggs on the edge with Ragland crashing running lanes.


I like that alignment, especially if Jones is healthy and is lined up like a 34 DE. Saunders-Pennel-Jones would be a pretty good combo of size and athleticism.

dirk digler 01-13-2020 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TurdsMckenzie (Post 14720613)
Over-confident would be believing you'll score 50 points when it happened 1 time out of 17 games just because it happened the other day one time. Titans already beat the Chiefs one time. Vikings and Rams great offenses are enjoying not winning a Super Bowl. Maga


I am not over confidant the Titans have been Reid's kryptonite. I think he is 1-7 against them.

kc-nd 01-13-2020 09:54 AM

Hey guys. And ladies. Remember the narrative last year. Chiefs against the Colts in the playoffs. How to get over that based on history. We did. And in a big way. Now here comes the Titans. Same scenario. But we have a different team than earlier this year and past years. That will make a difference.

duncan_idaho 01-13-2020 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TurdsMckenzie (Post 14720664)
Dolphins dumped everyone. Because their coaches are terrible. Not surprising guys like Tannehill and Stills are good on teams that can make the playoffs. How is top 10 passer rating, top 10 completion percentage, top 10 yards per attempt basically like Alex Smith. All-time... Not top 10 this season but all-time. In his first year with a new team. I guess you'll see next week but don't be surprised if forced to throw he'll go off. Even the other day he had 3tds to Henry's 1.


Those stats are great and show Tannehill operating efficiently within the framework of the Titans’ offense.

But this is a fan base that watched Alex Smith for five years. We understand how much the offense and scheme and playing within it bumped up Smith’s passer rating, completion percentage, and even YPA. It also saw how flat Smith fell when the offense got off schedule and was faced with playoff defenses and elite QBs.

From what I’ve seen of Tannehill and the Titans, it’s a fair comparison.

FringeNC 01-13-2020 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14720652)
Chiefs points scored: 451
Titans points scored: 402

Chiefs offensive yards: 6,067
Titans offensive yards: 5,805

Chiefs point differential: +143
Titans point differential: +71

Patrick Mahomes is the best player in football.

Add in..

Chiefs points allowed: 308
Titans points allowed: 331

Chiefs record: 12-4
Titans record: 9-7

Chiefs finished season going 7-0 with their last game being a blitzkreig over the team that won the Titans division.

Titans needed to beat a resting Texans squad to even make the playoffs before beating Zombie Brady and the best throwing runningback in the league

Cute is right.

Chiefs offense was #7 in yards this year after setting an NFL record for yards per play last year. I really think the 2018 offense is back now that Mahomes and the line are healthy. How many times in NFL post-season history has a team scored a TD on 7 straight drives?

Jeff.Fisher 01-13-2020 10:03 AM

I'm glad mahomes blew up and went crazy yesterday, scoring 50 points and showing everyone that the titans "have zero chance" of beating the chiefs.

Its exactly what we need, the same narrative vrabels been riding all postseason. I would be terrified if i was a chiefs fan. But dont be, keep on being over confident.

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mdchiefsfan 01-13-2020 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TurdsMckenzie (Post 14720664)
Dolphins dumped everyone. Because their coaches are terrible. Not surprising guys like Tannehill and Stills are good on teams that can make the playoffs. How is top 10 passer rating, top 10 completion percentage, top 10 yards per attempt basically like Alex Smith. All-time... Not top 10 this season but all-time. In his first year with a new team. I guess you'll see next week but don't be surprised if forced to throw he'll go off. Even the other day he had 3tds to Henry's 1.

It’s because Tannehill’s success is heavily dependent on the run. If you lessen the probability of the run, play-action becomes much less effective.

I haven’t watch Tennessee play outside of the Chiefs and Ravens games, but the factor above is why many are comparing Tannehill to Smith. If the run is removed from their game plan, can Tannehill still perform to the level needed?

Sassy Squatch 01-13-2020 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14720715)
I'm glad mahomes blew up and went crazy yesterday, scoring 50 points and showing everyone that the titans "have zero chance" of beating the chiefs.

Its exactly what we need, the same narrative vrabels been riding all postseason. I would be terrified if i was a chiefs fan. But dont be, keep on being over confident.

Eh, it works both ways. If I was a Titans fan I'd be scared shitless of the fact that the Chiefs played the absolute worst mistake ridden football imaginable for almost 20 minutes of game time then ended up blowing out the other team.

DJ's left nut 01-13-2020 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14720715)
I'm glad mahomes blew up and went crazy yesterday, scoring 50 points and showing everyone that the titans "have zero chance" of beating the chiefs.

Its exactly what we need, the same narrative vrabels been riding all postseason. I would be terrified if i was a chiefs fan. But dont be, keep on being over confident.

I'm terrified because I am a Chiefs fan.

But it ain't because of the Titans.

Vrabel and his boys will do the best they can to keep dragging the game back into the stone age. I don't suspect Reid will oblige them.

Mecca 01-13-2020 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14720715)
I'm glad mahomes blew up and went crazy yesterday, scoring 50 points and showing everyone that the titans "have zero chance" of beating the chiefs.

Its exactly what we need, the same narrative vrabels been riding all postseason. I would be terrified if i was a chiefs fan. But dont be, keep on being over confident.

It's a perfect set up because the Chiefs need to flush every ****ing New England turd possible.

Chris Meck 01-13-2020 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14720715)
I'm glad mahomes blew up and went crazy yesterday, scoring 50 points and showing everyone that the titans "have zero chance" of beating the chiefs.

Its exactly what we need, the same narrative vrabels been riding all postseason. I would be terrified if i was a chiefs fan. But dont be, keep on being over confident.

You're going to have to try harder to troll.

There are some dummy loudmouths predicting 51-0 Chiefs.

Most of us are well aware of how tough the Titans are.

Most of us know you're 9-3 since switching to Tannehill.

Most of us know Derrick Henry is ****ing Earl Campbell in his prime.

We SHOULD win this game, because as we learned for the last 50 years, when it comes to play-off wins, great QB's will generally beat the game managers.

We wandered in the desert for longer than Moses.

Now we have Patrick Mahomes.

Most of us have great respect for everything that Vrabel and the Titans have accomplished so far.

Derrick Henry is frightening.

In the end, I think we will just have too much horsepower for them.

But this will be a very, very tough game.

Hammock Parties 01-13-2020 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14720715)
I'm glad mahomes blew up and went crazy yesterday, scoring 50 points and showing everyone that the titans "have zero chance" of beating the chiefs.

Its exactly what we need, the same narrative vrabels been riding all postseason. I would be terrified if i was a chiefs fan. But dont be, keep on being over confident.

You beat us on complete flukes last time and you know it.

Gimpy Mahomes torched your D.

Toad 01-13-2020 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TurdsMckenzie (Post 14720513)
I'm not trying to argue anything really. I'm just counteracting some of the comments being made. Titans playing on the road isn't a real talking point. Tannehill not having to throw last two games isn't a real talking point. But that's what some people are basing the game on. I didn't think Titans would beat Patriots or Ravens because just thought they were inferior. They did though and they did it on road. I agree context matters. Someone called Lamar Jackson a running back... The guy there 36 tds. People are saying Tannehill sucks as he finished top 10 all-time for passer rating, completion percentage, yards per attempt. I'm reading comments saying two of the best QBs in the NFL are nobody.

Playing on the road is absolutely a talking point because it’s a huge hurdle to get to the Super Bowl.
Since the wild-card round of the playoffs started in 1970, ONLY 10 wild-card teams (playing on the road) have advanced to the Super Bowl. That is approximately 7% success rate.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-13-2020 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14720715)
I'm glad mahomes blew up and went crazy yesterday, scoring 50 points and showing everyone that the titans "have zero chance" of beating the chiefs.

Its exactly what we need, the same narrative vrabels been riding all postseason. I would be terrified if i was a chiefs fan. But dont be, keep on being over confident.

Lol, fans don't play the games, players do.

And the Chiefs remember losing to the Titans in Tennessee in fluky fashion with some awful special teams play. Hell, Frank Clark even brought it up in his post game interview. 'Didn't they best us at their place, earlier? Yeah, we owe them one. Period.'

Chiefs players are VERY focused and know what's coming. They were in this position last year. No one on that team is overlooking the Titans. They are on a mission to finish what they failed to do last year.

Good luck.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-13-2020 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14720731)
Eh, it works both ways. If I was a Titans fan I'd be scared shitless of the fact that the Chiefs played the absolute worst mistake ridden football imaginable for almost 20 minutes of game time then ended up blowing out the other team.

No kidding.

The Chiefs played the sloppiest 1st quarter I’ve ever seen from a team. And won by 20.

But Jeff Fisher says sign me up!

warpaint* 01-13-2020 10:26 AM

Is it confirmed whether Tannehill plans on passing for more than 90 yards this week? That will greatly impact my scared-ness.

JCBRAVE 01-13-2020 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 14718716)
Tannehill hasn't done much these last couple of weeks. If we sellout against the run, I'm not sold he can beat us with his arm.

Good luck with that

FringeNC 01-13-2020 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14720742)
You beat us on complete flukes last time and you know it.

Gimpy Mahomes torched your D.

with a suspect line. Mahomes was really get the ball out of his hand quickly that game -- more so than any game in his career.

JimNasium 01-13-2020 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14720715)
I'm glad mahomes blew up and went crazy yesterday, scoring 50 points and showing everyone that the titans "have zero chance" of beating the chiefs.

Its exactly what we need, the same narrative vrabels been riding all postseason. I would be terrified if i was a chiefs fan. But dont be, keep on being over confident.

Terrified? Seriously? We’ve exercised huge demons the last two seasons. I’m done with being terrified as a Chiefs fan. I’m looking forward to the game and while I respect what your team has done this season, I fully expect to be hoisting the Lamar Hunt trophy next Sunday afternoon.

RunKC 01-13-2020 10:31 AM

You know what’s crazy guys?

Mahomes was playing on a healing ankle in his first game back from his knee injury.

Erving was the LT. Rankin tore his ACL in this game. Schwartz got hurt and played on a hurt ankle. We had no cohesion on the OL at that time.

Mahomes still put up 446 yards and 3 TD’s.

Mahomes destroyed these guys playing injured with a defective OL.

He’s going scorched Earth on Sunday

Mecca 01-13-2020 10:32 AM

The only people that should be terrified when it comes to the Chiefs are the people that have to face Patrick Mahomes.

The Franchise 01-13-2020 10:35 AM

We absolutely cannot start out slow this game. If we do that again....it’s going to be tough to come back. For the love of ****ing God.....start scoring points in the first quarter.

MIAdragon 01-13-2020 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TurdsMckenzie (Post 14720664)
Dolphins dumped everyone. Because their coaches are terrible. Not surprising guys like Tannehill and Stills are good on teams that can make the playoffs. How is top 10 passer rating, top 10 completion percentage, top 10 yards per attempt basically like Alex Smith. All-time... Not top 10 this season but all-time. In his first year with a new team. I guess you'll see next week but don't be surprised if forced to throw he'll go off. Even the other day he had 3tds to Henry's 1.

He’s not “going off” chap. He’s ****ed, congrats getting this far but exit stage left. Enjoy the moment because your time is coming and there’s nothing you can do about it. You’re merely a speed bump on the way to a title. It’s our turn.

ptlyon 01-13-2020 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JimNasium (Post 14720775)
Terrified? Seriously? We’ve exercised huge demons the last two seasons. I’m done with being terrified as a Chiefs fan. I’m looking forward to the game and while I respect what your team has done this season, I fully expect to be hoisting the Lamar Hunt trophy next Sunday afternoon.

Let us know how heavy it is bro!

TwistedChief 01-13-2020 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14720781)
We absolutely cannot start out slow this game. If we do that again....it’s going to be tough to come back. For the love of ****ing God.....start scoring points in the first quarter.

It's going to be tough coming back against a run-first team that Mahomes torched for 450+ earlier in the season?

I don't want to start out slowly either, but this is an odd statement.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-13-2020 10:37 AM

I think it's funny that Titans fans are on here laughing at the overconfidence of the Chiefs fans, yet go to their message board and read and EVERYONE there expects the Titans to dominate the Chiefs in Arrowhead and roll into the Super Bowl. ROFL

Yeah, cause the Titans just 'dominated' the Chiefs in Week 10. Lol. Chiefs put up, what, 500+ total yards offense? Couldn't stop them then. Chiefs were missing several key players and it still took two fluky special teams gaffes in the last 5 minutes of the game for them to pull it out.

So, again, lol. More power to you all if you really believe you're gonna come in here and roll us next Sunday.

We'll see how that works out for you.

The Franchise 01-13-2020 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14720787)
It's going to be tough coming back against a run-first team that Mahomes torched for 450+ earlier in the season?

I don't want to start out slowly either, but this is an odd statement.

We’ve seen it happen. They have the offensive line and Henry to keep it out of Mahomes hands. I’m not saying it’s guaranteed but I’d rather they start out strong.

RunKC 01-13-2020 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14720787)
It's going to be tough coming back against a run-first team that Mahomes torched for 450+ earlier in the season?

I don't want to start out slowly either, but this is an odd statement.

Agreed.

It’s obvious that Vrabel is going to run the same exact playbook that Bill ran in the AFCCG.

Their only hope is running the ball and keeping Mahomes off the field.

JimNasium 01-13-2020 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 14720785)
Let us know how heavy it is bro!

Metaphorically you damned literalist!LMAOLMAOLMAO

DJ's left nut 01-13-2020 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14720781)
We absolutely cannot start out slow this game. If we do that again....it’s going to be tough to come back. For the love of ****ing God.....start scoring points in the first quarter.

I was actually thinking that when we were down 21-0 and they picked up that 3rd down near our 20.

I'm standing there thinking "okay, hold them to a FG here, get a score, get a stop, get a score. Go into half down 24-14, score on the opening possession and at 24-21, they'll be heeled and we've got a good shot. But man, if this were the Titans, we'd probably be in a world of shit right now..."

Because yeah, you spot TN a 21 point lead and they can do a lot to bleed the clock on you.

I agree 100% with Andy to defer to the 2nd half precisely because it allows you to do what KC did yesterday. And I think I'd do it if the Chiefs win the toss next week. Buuuuuut....against TN I'd think a little harder. There's a real advantage to getting out in front of them early and as much as a 10-0 lead against them might be more valuable than a chance to double-dip over the halves.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-13-2020 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14720792)
We’ve seen it happen. They have the offensive line and Henry to keep it out of Mahomes hands. I’m not saying it’s guaranteed but I’d rather they start out strong.

It's NOT gonna happen, but I would agree that IF the Chiefs got down 24-0 against the Titans, like they did the Texans, they would probably be screwed.

Now that being said, there's NO ****ING WAY that happens.

The first quarter against the Texans was every bit fluky. The final 3 quarters proved that out.

The week 10 4th quarter against the Titans was fluky. The Chiefs dominated the majority of that game. Even with injuries and it just being Mahomes first game back from the knee injury.

If both teams show up and play their 'A' game, Chiefs win walking away. It would take a C- effort from the Chiefs and some other fluky shit to lose this game. Not saying it's not ENTIRELY IMPOSSIBLE, but, yeah, it's not happening.

Chiefs will be in the Super Bowl in 3 weeks. Mark it down.

dirk digler 01-13-2020 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14720732)
I'm terrified because I am a Chiefs fan.

But it ain't because of the Titans.

Vrabel and his boys will do the best they can to keep dragging the game back into the stone age. I don't suspect Reid will oblige them.


lol yup I definitely have battered Chief syndrome.

ptlyon 01-13-2020 10:51 AM

Would this be a game where if we won the toss Reid doesn't defer?

Sassy Squatch 01-13-2020 10:51 AM

If anything, they'd be better served to come out playing with a bit of confidence and moxie. That first quarter was an abomination of scared, anxious, and desperate football from the coaching staff on down, with the surprising exceptions of Mahomes and Reid.

O.city 01-13-2020 10:51 AM

I'd still defer. Just always give me the chance to double dip. Especially with this offense.

Nzoner 01-13-2020 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14720543)
The Titans have won with their QB throwing for a combined 150 yards in two games.

Over my life, I've seen the chiefs have great running games. I know how that works in the playoffs when you get behind.

We also know as KC fans that a freight train be derailed from time to time :D

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Mecca 01-13-2020 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 14720808)
lol yup I definitely have battered Chief syndrome.

They're everything that has gotten the Chiefs beat for years and years...

"We're gonna run the ball and be physical with our game manager QB and play good defense" how many years did we do that shit and get beat by the team with the elite QB?

RunKC 01-13-2020 10:54 AM

Shit I totally forgot Butker missed an extra point, a bad snap ruined another FG and then the last one was blocked.

That is some fluky shit

The Franchise 01-13-2020 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14720828)
Shit I totally forgot Butker missed an extra point, a bad snap ruined another FG and then the last one was blocked.

That is some fluky shit

They need to clean that shit up.

The Franchise 01-13-2020 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 14720802)
It's NOT gonna happen, but I would agree that IF the Chiefs got down 24-0 against the Titans, like they did the Texans, they would probably be screwed.

Now that being said, there's NO ****ING WAY that happens.

The first quarter against the Texans was every bit fluky. The final 3 quarters proved that out.

The week 10 4th quarter against the Titans was fluky. The Chiefs dominated the majority of that game. Even with injuries and it just being Mahomes first game back from the knee injury.

If both teams show up and play their 'A' game, Chiefs win walking away. It would take a C- effort from the Chiefs and some other fluky shit to lose this game. Not saying it's not ENTIRELY IMPOSSIBLE, but, yeah, it's not happening.

Chiefs will be in the Super Bowl in 3 weeks. Mark it down.

You can’t say it’s not going to happen because it just ****ing did.

KCUnited 01-13-2020 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14720798)
I was actually thinking that when we were down 21-0 and they picked up that 3rd down near our 20.

I'm standing there thinking "okay, hold them to a FG here, get a score, get a stop, get a score. Go into half down 24-14, score on the opening possession and at 24-21, they'll be heeled and we've got a good shot. But man, if this were the Titans, we'd probably be in a world of shit right now..."

Because yeah, you spot TN a 21 point lead and they can do a lot to bleed the clock on you.

I agree 100% with Andy to defer to the 2nd half precisely because it allows you to do what KC did yesterday. And I think I'd do it if the Chiefs win the toss next week. Buuuuuut....against TN I'd think a little harder. There's a real advantage to getting out in front of them early and as much as a 10-0 lead against them might be more valuable than a chance to double-dip over the halves.

I also thought I heard/read a stat where TN dominates teams in the 3rd quarter this season. That could factor into Andy's decision.

dirk digler 01-13-2020 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14720824)
They're everything that has gotten the Chiefs beat for years and years...

"We're gonna run the ball and be physical with our game manager QB and play good defense" how many years did we do that shit and get beat by the team with the elite QB?


alot but because of my BCSD I could see us on the losing end. Once we get to the SB hopefully my BCSD will go away. :D


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