:shake: No use talking to a wall :shake:

Because shooting baskets is totally the same as assaulting numerous people, including women.

If he lied to the owner multiple times im sure CHunt would after all he released his league rushing leader.

This.

I was always under the assumption that even before Hunt’s video came out and he was released that once his payday came, he’d be gone. Just not worth the money for a position that has little drop off from your great to average player. They also get injured quite often.

I’d rather spend the money on a better OL where the drop off from good to average players is so steep. Or any position for that matter. Teams that depend too much on running backs, especially nowadays, are on a path to nowhere.

Yea you’ve brought absolutely nothing to this discussion anyways moron.

dude went to the equivalent of a juco in one of the biggest shitholes in KS. What do you expect?

So, it’s not about the lie. Some folks here are trying to make that argument.

I'll answer that - Pitt you have no idea the level of personal success this poster has achieved in his life. I 'on the other hand' do - and yes - he's probably better at his job than Hunt was.

Yea because the magnitude of said lie is irrelevant :rolleyes:

KS?

Brilliant aigining for that team. They will be a force next year.

Damn you stupid and bull headed that's what the chiefs organization sited for releasing him lying. Have you ever had a job? If you have you should know that your employer has to have a reason for firing an employee.

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What, precisely, was his lie? What exactly did he say (so that we can determine magnitude)?

He's talking about Pittsburgh State

In the NFL? A player can be cut for no reason whatsoever. The Chiefs do it often.

Brown have said the KH has been in alcohol and anger management counseling since he was released and will continue. I wish Kareem luck it seems as though he is trying good for him. I wonder if C.Hunt payed for it as he said he would?

**** them

If I lied to my employer I'd be out on my ass.

https://twitter.com/search?q=Browns&src=tren

Comedy gold

then Kap is mentioned-of course

ROFL

Dumbass

BREAKING: The Browns have signed Kareem Hunt. This move gives the team much needed stability at the kicker position.

ROFL

He might make more over the next two years. But I'd guess this incident cuts into what would have been his first big free agent payday.

Cupcak'n Patnah.

You think Tyreek’s deal will be less for the Chiefs? That would be outstanding.

Ain't that a kick in the head.

Yep.

He will fade into a distant memory.

As much as it went completely over my head in the moment, the Chiefs did the right thing. Hopefully it works out for Hunt. Everyone makes mistakes. Hunt made a really bad, really expensive one, which are the ones we tend to learn the most from, so hopefully he learns and moves on in the right direction. Sucks for everyone except Browns fans and the rest of the AFC West that it didn't work out in KC.

The Browns potentially now have one of the best backfields in the league with Hunt, Chubb, and Johnson.

Did they sign him as a Kicker?
/never too late for the hundredth time for a joke

Pittsburg Kansas is a great town - not cool Billay! Them's my roots

Well Tyreek's situation has been known since he got drafted and will be much farther in the past when he signs his first big deal. So I'd guess it costs him something, but less pronounced.

My personal hope is that he gives a relatively team-friendly deal to the team who took a chance on him, has the best long-ball QB, and where maybe he feels safe.

Or even worse....the Patriots. NO thanks. Hunt would run for 250+ yards and 25+ broken tackles against our Swiss cheese defense.

Whats dumbass about it smart guy?

In any "Will to Work" state, one can be fired without cause.

So you laugh a lot to your stupid jokes I see. Must be a pretty lonely life you lead to chuckle at yourself.

Better go to DC and satiate your TDS and follow BEPs post around. ROFLROFL chuckle chuckle

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In addition to the Kareem Hunt signing, the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a> are also hiring former NFL RB Ray Rice to be Hunt&#39;s mentor. Very smart move by the team.</p>&mdash; lan Rapoport (@SportsTalkBarry) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsTalkBarry/status/1095047368821665793?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Although the move will cause a lot of noise, it&#39;s important to note that <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a> GM John Dorsey gave Kareem Hunt a second chance during Black History Month. Tremendous job of ending racism by Dorsey.</p>&mdash; lan Rapoport (@SportsTalkBarry) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsTalkBarry/status/1095043408509485057?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2019</a></blockquote>
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LMAO

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzJZmIoWsAUiYun.jpg:large

So Kareem apologizes for the February incident but not the one in June? Or the one at power and light after the Chiefs blew it against the Titans? Its just odd that only the incident in February he's sorry for

Well Missouri is not right to work.

This also seems like a favor from Dorsey. If Hunt is going to be suspended, then he needs to be on a team for that to count. You take the 8 games or whatever, let him serve them, and then you control his rights. Even if he doesn't play next year, it still puts you in the drivers seat when he is cleared to return.

Bold move by Browns. Don't know if it's smart, but it's certainly bold.

I've been looking for a pay raise for a while. I need to find a drunk girl to kick in the ass so I can get this shit started.

Kareem is going to earn more with the Browns than he would have playing out his rookie deal in KC.

Apparently all you need to do to get a raise in the NFL is kick a bitch.

Can you play RB in the NFL...that seems to be a requirement.

Don't give a shit about the media. I want a Super Bowl win.

New rule - retroactive of course - if a team releases a player while on the exempt list, and another team picks up said player, the second team owes the first team a 3rd round comp pick.

I don't see it. Browns are the Browns, and I think at some point we will all see Mayfield fall apart if he or the team ever struggle. The expectations are still pretty manageable for the team and BM, however, the moment those expectations get ratcheted up too high and the team or BM can't meet them, I think we see it start to crack.

Mayfield reminds me a bit of Rivers with his attitude on the field. I see nothing wrong with it at all, but I am curious to see what happens for Mayfield when everything is going poorly for him for whatever reason.

Mahomes played at tech where nothing ever went right. Shit defense and shit offensive line. He made due and grew because of it. Mayfield left Tech because he thought he deserved the job but hadn't earned it yet. At OU he had the perfect set up for a QB, and yes he is talented, but so was the entire team and so he didn't have to struggle through much of anything.

I'm going to have to see another year of Browns before I can believe they will be anything over the next 15 years. With all that said they might be growing into their own at the exact right time when the Steelers are soon to lose Big Ben, and the Ravens seem to be going ahead with their young QB, which if it fails, will obviously set them back. Oh, and Bengals still have the mediocre ginger at QB.

If they want to sign me, I'll do anything they want.

I don’t give a shit what the media thinks either.

But the truth is it would’ve been a PR nightmare that would still be going on. It would’ve been a huge distraction and with Pat right now that’s the last thing we want.

Some of you are seriously underestimating how ugly this could’ve gotten. Why do you underestimate the power of outrage?

The NFL is going to be helping the Browns as much as possible next season.

A Mahomes-Mayfield rivalry would be a huge draw and would be the next Manning-Brady.

Throw in a pair of long-suffering fanbases and you have great storylines.

So, will the Browns now experience a PR nightmare?

No because people are reeruned and a lot of them will see this as him getting a second chance while the Chiefs wouldn’t have been allowed to do that themselves.

I’m not saying outrage culture is rational by any means.

And also, the Browns don’t also have a Tyreek Hill on the roster so those people could claim that they’re a team full of women beaters and the owner/HC/front office are domestic violence apologists.

You don’t cut Hunt, it’s just a matter of time before that becomes the narrative and a PR nightmare is born

I'd imagine they will for a little bit. But much like Tyreek, the criticism will fade over time if Hunt performs on the field and otherwise keeps out of trouble.

Gotcha. Just a terrible "Because Chiefs" situation.

Who on those teams did they keep that committed domestic violence?

I have no problem with the Chiefs keeping a drug addict like Josh Gordon or a ****ing asshole on the field like Suh if they were going all in trying to win, but domestic violence is some real shit.

Who has committed domestic violence and went on to a Super Bowl?

Aldon Smith? Reuben Foster? Greg Hardy? Ray Rice?

Here’s a list of domestic abusers in the nfl

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/arrests/

Dorsey gonna have the Browns facing us in the AFCCG and I'm OK with that.

Jesus, all of this is simply playing out in your head.

Hunt didn't commit domestic violence.

NSFW

That he never left his room.

Chiefs should never have simply just dropped him! They should have suspended him indefinitely, and waited to see how things played out. They could have at least received a draft pick for him, if he was given the ok to resume his career by the league, IF they thought a PR nightmare was more than they wanted to indure. Now, they simply got "0" in return. What a waste.

No. Because:

1. Hunt wasn't on the Browns when the incident occurred.
2. The Browns don't have a star WR who beat up his pregnant girlfriend before joining the the Browns just prior to Hunt's arrival prior to Hunt's incident.
3. The Browns haven't gone out of their way to use their credibility capital on any other players like Hill, Hunt, Foster, Rice, etc etc etc.
4. The Browns haven't had another domestic violence/murder-suicide in the last decade.

The Chiefs are guilty of all of the above. Hence, they have more reason to be eviscerated in the court of public opinion.

No Chiefs fan is happy about this. But accept the reality of the situation.

Are you serious? I'm guessing he said he didn't assault the women, that she was banging on the door after they kicked her out because she was underage... I don't think he told them that they kicked her out because she wouldn't **** his friend, then kept her phone in the room, wouldn't open the door to give it back to her. Got sick of her banging on the door, went out in the hallway and pushed a bunch of people, knocked her down and then kicked her when she appeared dazed. That most likely was the lie...:rolleyes:

Dorsey would sign Ayman al-Zawahiri if he thought it would win his team one more game over the course of a decade.

In a perfect world that would have been great... However, as many have said on here, keep him on your team, even suspended, and it would have been a circus and brought up all the Tyreek Hill shit again. The Chiefs also new we would probably get 85% of his production with the other backs.

Your name is 'Hamas' Jenkins so I figure you're the authority on this type of thing. Do you think Dorsey started ISIS in playing the long game to take down Mahomes?

Get a ****ing clue dude.

Do you honestly think we would’ve been fine if we kept Hunt and the media started bringing Hill into it? Do you pay attention to what happens when you get labeled in today’s society? You really think the Chiefs could’ve just moved on from this with Hunt and Hill on the roster without constant backlash?

Does anybody here who watched that video think that the "slightly kicked" situation would have escalated a LOT more if his friend wasn't holding him back? Because that's part of it. He was out of control.

Dorsey studied the writings of Sayyid Qutb and is now planning to institute Sharia law across the Ohio Valley.

It's up to Mahomes to destroy his caliphate.

Cleveland was the scene of the crime so I don't know if this is good for him or not. Home town and all I could see another incident happening.

It's inevitable.

And as far as punishment goes: he now plays for Cleveland...

No. He had a golden opportunity to hurt her and he didn’t.

Clay... ready the Red Tribe Cinema. I'm thinking something on the order of Rambo 3.

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...226109265.html

Kareem Hunt signs with the Browns, the worst place he could go. Save us the posturing.

BY SAM MELLINGER

FEBRUARY 11, 2019 03:22 PM


Please come with me as we skip over the fake moralizing and manufactured outrage and see that Kareem Hunt was always going to play football again.

Might be sooner than expected, and going back to Cleveland is setting him up to fail — more on this in a minute — but he was always going to have another job in the NFL.

The Chiefs released the star running back last fall almost immediately after security video surfaced that showed him kicking a woman in a Cleveland hotel. That was the surprise. NFL teams don’t typically act so swiftly, and so decisively, particularly when it comes to removing a key part of a team that was shaping up to be a Super Bowl contender.

Does that sound cold? Good.

The NFL is cold. Many other businesses are, too. Sales, finance ... heck — journalism. We are all lines on a spreadsheet somewhere, and if our value exceeds cost, then we’re in luck.

Hunt’s financial cost is the NFL’s version of peanuts, and he is still just 23 and the was league’s leading rusher in his only full season as a pro. So he’s in luck. The Browns announced they had signed Hunt on Monday. They did so predictably, with a statement from general manager John Dorsey that referenced his personal history with Hunt — Dorsey oversaw the Chiefs front office that selected him in the NFL Draft.

Dorsey hit all the expected notes: said Hunt took responsibility for “his egregious actions” that the Browns “do not condone.” Hunt is undergoing treatment and subject to an NFL suspension, and Dorsey’s statement made clear that another incident “will not be tolerated.”


Hunt released a statement, too. Again, it hit most of the expected notes. He apologized both for the violence and for lying about it later. He thanked the Browns for the opportunity and expressed a commitment to be “a better and healthier person.”

Notably, neither man’s statement mentioned the victim, or even the existence of a victim, and both focused solely on the incident caught on video, ignoring a larger and troubling pattern that developed around Hunt.

Sadly, that meat-headed, narcissistic, optics-first-and-everything-else-second response was also expected.

The NFL and the men who operate it are not in the business of healing. They are not about self-improvement. They are about football — first, foremost and above everything else.

That is not a controversial statement, or even a criticism. There is no “gotcha” there. And that stance is not extreme. Those words are a reflection of what the NFL has shown itself to be about, over and over, year after year.

If the NFL generally and the men who run the league specifically truly cared about Hunt beyond his gifts on a football field, they never would have allowed him to sign with the Browns.

That’s nothing against the Browns, who with quarterback Baker Mayfield leading a nice collection of talent are well-positioned to be a contender for years.

It’s just that Cleveland is the last place Hunt should be, not the first. He grew up in a nearby suburb, in a home without his father around consistently. He has a mom and grandma and brother who love him deeply, but he’s also shown himself incapable of avoiding the traps of stardom in his hometown.

His problems — the ones we know about, anyway — have come in Cleveland, or with old influences from Cleveland, or both.

Those influences are strong enough that at one point the Chiefs pushed for Hunt to stay in Kansas City full-time, to concentrate fully on football and shrink the number of outside voices from which Hunt was hearing. Remember: That was before the video went public, back when the Chiefs believed Hunt when he told them that he had stayed in his room the night of the hotel incident.

Now, the Browns have essentially made it impossible to track or limit the influences that have already proved too much for Hunt to manage.

This doesn’t mean that Hunt will fail. This doesn’t mean Hunt will be arrested again. This doesn’t mean the Browns haven’t made a smart football decision.

Maybe Hunt has been scared straight. That’s possible, too. The Browns appear to be building something real, finally, with an offense on the rise and a defense loaded with talent. Whenever Hunt is able to join them — an eight-game suspension seems to be the minimum punishment he’s looking at — they will only be more talented.

But that’s a very different issue than the one Dorsey addressed in his statement, or the one the NFL would love for you to believe it cares about. Dorsey talked exclusively about Hunt becoming a better man, of following the league’s guidelines for personal conduct.

That is, to be kind, hogwash.

Hunt was cut less than three months ago. He just began counseling. He’s still on the commissioner’s exempt list. This is not the process for a team or league that prioritizes a young man’s recovery. This is the process for a team salivating at an elite talent available on the cheap.

That doesn’t make the Browns a bad organization. It makes them a business. It makes them what we should expect.

But spare us the empty posturing, especially when you’re putting the guy in the worst possible situation he could find.

They will probably simultaneously kill each other.

Mellinger nails it.

Personally, I give zero ****s about Hunt at this point for two reasons:

He left the team no choice by lying to them about not one, but apparently multiple incidents.

He's a ****ing RB, we would have been stupid to sign him past his rookie deal anyway. Most disposable position in the league.

He's Cleveland's problem now, meanwhile we're a SB contender without him.

CLASSIC 'HAMAS' POST HERE LADIES AND GERMS

NOW I'M INSPIRED TO INSERT MAHOMES INTO "RULES OF ENGAGEMENT"

"YES GODDAMMIT, WASTE THE MOTHER****ERS"

AT THE VERY LEAST RAMBO III

Fast-rising team. They'll win that division in the next couple of seasons. Chiefs Fan will then proclaim that they did it "in spite of" Hunt.

BTW, what happened to the idiots who said that NO team would sign Hunt?

ROFL

god damn I didn't even read this post before I made mine

http://25.media.tumblr.com/fb759408d...dee4o1_500.gif

They became the people defending your views in this thread.

Hard to disagree with Mellinger. Just hope he surrounds himself with better people this time around.