As long as we dont overpay, I'm right with you partner, make it fu***n happen!!!

This is a pipe dream. Not happening.

I remember this being said about Orlando Brown lol

Howard ain’t happening. We still need to extend honey badger

We had a gaping hole at LT and it wasn’t July.

And most people thought that wasn’t happening because they didn’t believe the Ravens would trade him to us.

Aaaand Orlando Brown.

Annndddd Tyreek Hill after this season

I'd rather keep Howard on long term than extend HB. I love HB, But Xavier would be better for the future, and a better decision overall.

Xavier showed, with no new contract.... all I'm saying is that the HOPEFUL part of my brain hope that the dolphins see the problem with the legal stuff and let it weigh on them. Miami is much more susceptible to cancel culture and that shit than KC. Do I think this will happen? No, but do I think theres a slightest of chance..... yes.... THAT IS ALL.

Da Fuq?? Honey Badger is the best safety in the league and the leader of this defense

I dont disagree, but with his age, I'd rather get Howard on a long term contract than HB... in 3 years HB will not be as good as he was... Howard would be a better contributor.

I love the landlord, but I'm just thinking from a logical and extended viewpoint. Sorry if I upset you brother

Annnddd actually having Mahomes' contract hit your cap instead of pushing it into the future.

LMAO

By the time the cap explodes, and guys like Lamar and Baker start getting paid, that deal is going to look like a huge ****ing bargain.

Keep hope alive though!

You're 100 percent right though... in 4 years Mahomes contract will be a bargain, all one has to look at is NFL salary cap increases and US Inflationary pressures under the FED and compare the deal we gave him is beautiful in 3 to 4 years

That's fine, 2021 is the last year KC will be able to get away with Mahomes' contract taking up only 4% of their cap space.

It's incredible you're still able to post here after posting shit like this when referring to Mahomes.

What an awful position for us to be in!

Wish we were putting all our hopes and dreams into the possibility of getting a 39 years old QB that we’d have to pay AND trade for instead!

Alright…how many posts is this one going to take? Will 5,000 get it done on such short notice?

You gonna tuck tail and run off again when KC finds a way to keep talent anyway?

It’s not just about keeping talent either.

When Veach is drafting guys like Sneed and Trey Smith on day 3 every year, they’re going to continue to be the class of the NFL.

I wasn't referring to Mahomes.

As long as Lets Reach is allowed to waste cap space and/or draft picks on guys like Sammy Watkins, Frank Clark and possibly Orlando Brown the Chiefs don't worry me much. The Chiefs aren't that good. They're a top heavy team that's carried by Mahomes, his little fast guy, and his aging TE. Teams are catching up. The Manning and Brady void will be filled and the Mahomes show isn't going to be enough to get it done.

How embarrassing for you. Irrelevancy has made you delusional.

Manning and Brady left a vacuum and the Chiefs and Mahomes have done a good job taking advantage of it. It's not going to last forever. You're not the Patriots.

"Besides the 7 straight beat downs Mahomes has given us and their continuing AFC dominance with no end in sight I'm really not that worried about the Chiefs"

What an absolute pussy. Can you give us the extremely long list of qb’s that Dungver has drafted that have exceeded Mahomes 3 year starting record/stats... for their career?? I’m sure it’s gonna take a while to type out those zero names.

CaseOfDildos Joe, any idea what the significance of the number 2140 is??? I’ll give you a hint... it has something to do with how many days it’s been since your fraudulent team beat the owner of the division.... it’s (currently) only 3 games longer than your team’s longest win streak against KC. But the best part is.... Dungver has NEVER beat Mahomes, and Von is gonna retire without ever having beat him. Yikes. Better run to the Mange (lmao) and find a rebuttal.

The best period of your teams' history just happened to coincide with the Broncos' longest drought in three decades. A lucky coincidence for you and I'm sure it's a welcome reprieve from the Manning era. But it's not going to last forever.

“Wasting cap space” on guys that helped us get to 2 SB’s and win 1?

Watkins is already gone, and Clark will be after this year as well. That frees up more cap space for us, and neither of those guys kept us from being aggressive every offseason regardless of what they were paid or what we gave up for them.

And Orlando Brown? A 25 year old Pro Bowl LT that is only getting better to protect Mahomes? That’s a “waste of cap space”? We also got him for the equivalent of a 2nd round pick. How exactly was that a bad trade for us? There is a reason it has been called the best move of the offseason by some.

Brett Veach is arguably the best in the business. He’s just like our QB. Aggressive and persistent. He attacks our needs every offseason. Your little nicknames for him and your new GM don’t mean shit in terms of reality.

You were never really good at this, but you’ve become a caricature.

No they really didn't. The lack of legitimate competition helped you get there. Those guys are trash and were dumb decisions by Lets Reach

Yeah, sustained success hardly ever follows the best quarterbacks in the league LMAO . The chiefs have proven to be able to consistently put great talent around Mahomes and yet that will stop? They also have him on a VERY team friendly contract - of which would already be nothing compared to the cap if not for the freak outbreak of covid.

The great nfl fallacy is that its easy to build a team and then acquire a quarterback good enough to take you to the superbowl. Denver are struck in that situation.

The last sentence says it all.

Did you watch the super bowl we won? Watkins was a beast Clark was pretty good that whole post season. Overall they might have underperformed but that year they were worth what we paid to get a ring. Neither guys contract has crippled us from getting other talent in free agency

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The salary cap is very flexible, but until the Chiefs extend Tyrann Mathieu, it will be very hard for them to add a significant player under this year’s cap number.<br><br>That said, yes, Howard would be unreal in KC <a href="https://t.co/M0gfpQ57vd">https://t.co/M0gfpQ57vd</a></p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1420192091817320448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That "trash" literally made huge plays for us throughout the play-offs and superbowl. Though Sammy was a shell of himself last year and Veach made the smart decision to move on and invest money into a top 10 oline - the only reason the Chiefs didnt win back to back superbowls.

We’re not the Patriots. Right.

You know, because it’s not like our head coach has only 2 losing seasons in the past 22 years or whatever it is.

Or the front office system (featuring Dorsey and Veach’s scouts) haven’t drafted and scouted all the old and/or expensive players you claim are in the top heavy tier of our team.

And it’s not like that “Let’s Reach” guy when faced with no cap space and concerning holes in the position groups across the roster hasn’t demonstrated on MULTIPLE occasions that he can and will renovate the entire damn thing in one offseason.

Yeah. The future looks like it’s only gonna be Mahomes and his contract. If only we could have hired George “I gave Kirk ****ing Cousins two goddamn fully guaranteed extensions while my defense burned to the ground” Paton! THEN we might be able to be good at drafting and managing the cap to acquire and keep great players!!!

You’re a pathetic ****ing imbecile. You better run off before somebody sends an insult your way that crosses the line, you get your feelings hurt, and then have to leave the forum for several months.

Frank Clark had 8 sacks combined in the last 2 postseasons.

Sammy Watkins, outside of this past year, was also fantastic in the playoffs the 2 years prior. He made one of the biggest plays in our SB comeback win to top it all off too.

Get a ****ing clue dipshit.

No no no. Pussies who disappear after their team gets their shit pushed in 11 times in a row by a dominant KC team don't get to make shit up

It would be a mistake to keep Mathieu around for more than a few more years

Denver has been garbage for years and without illegal HGH use by 5 head , it's even more pathetic

His original deal was only 3 years. I highly doubt the extension would exceed that.

ROFL So, if the Chiefs are not good- what does it say for YOUR team who has been owned by them at a record pace?

BTW- Brown is still on a cheap deal. We have upgraded our O Line at 1/3rd the cap hit as last year.

Keep talking about the cap, when that Oline steam rolls you bitches.

And for all the talk about the Chiefs having to pay Brown and Thuney, they just rebuilt the rest of their OL in 1 draft.

Humphrey, Smith, and Niang all on rookie deals for the next 3 years will still give us a cheap OL overall.

This draft class looks amazing. Plus we got Brown and 2 former 1st round corners for dirt cheap.

I just find it hilarious that one of his main talking points is Mahomes contract. Like having the best player in the NFL locked down until 2032 on an extremely team friendly deal is a bad thing.

Howard would really shore up this CB group.

His shit is so weak it’s honestly embarrassing. I get second hand embarrassment just reading his posts now.

ROFL Exactly!

When the big numbers start to hit- the Chiefs will just extend him until retirement. Mahomes is not going anywhere.

Next offseason:

-Cap is going to rise a **** ton
-Chiefs cut LDT, Clark
-The dead cap figure for Schwartz and Fisher basically goes away
-Hill gets extended

That alone gives us some money to work with, and we basically sacrificed nothing to make it happen. Next offseason it will also be an option to cut Hitchens if we decide we don't need him with Gay and Bolden around.

But no. Knowmo says our reckoning is coming! Let's Reach can't keep getting away with it!

Howard and Sneed on the outside with HB in the middle.

Eesh

Imagine having to play us this year and you are trotting in Drew Lock? :doh!:

He's an uneducated troll who would have built a shrine to Elway had he done what Veach has done with trades/contracts/drafts/FA.

This!

208 million for 2022. Probably go to 225 in 2023.

Didn't he say when Lock was drafted that he would be as good as Mahomes?

If Xavien is being truthful in his statement that he's only interested in guarantees, not new money, then find a way to make the trade now and Veach can figure out the financial logistics. A top CB on what is an extremely team friendly deal is a no brainer.

ROFL second hand embarrassment ROFL ROFL

Broke dick and over priced JAG thread #3,792

4 years counting RFAs.

Yea, that was a typo. I meant 4.

702 to go, fellas.

701.

He was an All Pro this season and a dark horse for DPOY.

His 1-handed pick on Mahomes was objectively dope as hell.

:doh!:

Have you seen him play?

Seriously. DPOY votes this season.

Aaron Donald 27
TJ Watt 20
Xavien Howard 3

If you want to harp on his injury history, that's fair and justified, but at the current level he's playing at he's easily a top 5 CB.

I seriously doubt the Dolphins, who are hoping to contend soon, would send the best DB in the NFL to the Chiefs, but I certainly wouldn't complain if it happens.

Holy shit, it's too exciting to even think about.

This!

That’s it! I’m jerking off!!!

The Dolphins have done a lot of pretty stupid shit over the years....

It’s hilarious that KnowMo is out here terrified of the thought of KC getting Howard.

I started posting on Internet football forums in 2003. I've mostly lurked the past few years, but I still post here from time to time.

I've never, ever posted on an opposing team's forum, especially thousands of times, especially to say such blatantly stupid and jealous shit, ESPECIALLY when my team is the current doormat of the division and the team whose board I'm posting on has been the absolute dominant force for years with no end in sight.

In other words, LMAO at this ****ing Bronco loser. Your life must be really hard. Go outside. Read a book. Maybe even learn to paint, where your fantasy can translate to something that won't look so stupid.

BFlo comes from the patriot way bullshit. They dont like players who make a stink sticking around. Maybe he will export him for a 3rd and ward.

As much as I want this to happened, it just doesn’t make sense.

We could have had Breeland for $4 million, Howard would want around $12-$14 million.

Absolutely this. He is going to demand a HUGE salary and we do not need this in our current cap situation. Draft next year a young CB. NO THANKS!

His reason is because "He doesn't feel VALUED" PASS!

I mean, yeah it's expensive, but you'd essentially be replacing Clarks contract with this one.

I like the young QB's we've got, but dang if you could add this? Yeah.

What the Hell? :cuss:

No, he was always delusional.

Wasn't referring to Mahomes. Mile High Mania

Huh? Now I'm more confused. What does MHM have to do with this?

Knowmo didn't call Mahomes an Uncle Tom. He called MHM that after MHM kept shutting down his shitty attempts at trolling. Also left for literal years after that LMAO

CB Byron Jones signed with the Miami Dolphins last year for 2020 $17,600,000, 2021 $16,100,000, 2022 $16,475,000, 2023 $16,200,000, 2024 $16,125,000 for a total of $82,500,000.

Xavien Howard has a contract 2019 $10,349,830, 2020 $13,325,000, 2021 $13,500,000, 2022 $14,375,000, 2023 $13,400,000, 2024 $12,250,000 for a total of $77,199,830.

He wants his contract to be as good or better than Byron Jones.

It is exciting to think about the Chiefs adding a talent like Howard, but I do not see how you add him under the cap space that the Chiefs face now and in the future.