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threebag 01-19-2017 01:31 PM

This is Clarks Soup Kitchen

If you don't like what they are serving, move to another shelter

splatbass 01-19-2017 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 12696794)
This is Clarks Soup Kitchen

If you don't like what they are serving, move to another shelter

It's funny, I live in a place with a lot of transplants and work with the military, so I know fans from a LOT of different teams. I wear a Chiefs lanyard at work, so even a lot of the people I don't directly work with will stop me in the hall and talk about football. And working in IT I deal with and know most of the people in the building anyway. A lot of fans of other teams envy us and would love to have our coach, our QB and our FO. I haven't heard a single person say Andy Reid sucks. A lot would love to have him as HC. Most of them think Smith is a good enough, if flawed, QB. Some of them would love to have him on their team, including the 49er fan I work with. Most respect our team a lot. Hell, even the Donk fan I talked to in the hall before the playoff game said he wanted us to win the SB. He literally stopped me to tell me that, I didn't even know the guy so he wasn't just being nice.

Sometimes people don't appreciate what they have.

Simplicity 01-19-2017 04:04 PM

Johnny Manziel

splatbass 01-19-2017 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 12697089)
Johnny Manziel

If you want to party, he's your man. If you want a pro QB not so much.

I assume you were kidding, since there was literally no team this year, including the desperate Browns, that signed him. No one in their right mind would want to replace a QB that is winning a lot of games with a guy that doesn't even care enough about football or making millions of dollars to even try to clean up his act. It isn't like he tried and failed, he never even tried.

SAUTO 01-19-2017 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12696180)
You ever had a hankering for a nice soda beverage so you go to McDonald's and order a large drink and they fill the whole ****ing thing with ice? That's how we feel here at CP with the Chiefs.

No soda at McDonald's is nice

warpaint* 01-19-2017 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 12693403)
just ****ing draft a QB in the 1st or 2nd round god dammit. don't wait for the perfect QB draft class, because that doesn't exist. just find a talented guy you like who fits in the system (or who could grow into the system) and ****ing TRY FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE!!!!

Absolutely.

I like the NC QB but no one should listen to me I work in insurance WTH would I know about it.

Coochie liquor 01-19-2017 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 12694761)
Keep him for now. Draft a QB and let him learn as a backup in the meantime.

Alex isn't that bad. Ware, Kelce and Albert Wilson don't drop easy catches we win that game. Fisher doesn't hold we also probably win that game. Plenty of blame to go around.

Alex did all he could for us that game, he didn't play bad at all.
We've been to the playoffs with him 3 out of 4 years he has been here. No need to make an immediate change at this point.

https://www.reddit.com/r/KansasCityC...kdown_of_alex/

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-19-2017 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 12696630)
Garapolo or Mahomes.

Just cause I'd like to say he's ma homeys....

Years ago, when the Great QB Prospect Wars were raging, everyone had their guy they liked the most and groups of supporters for a certain prospect would form and we would flame each other 24-7 regarding the reasons that our guy was better than your guy etc.

We have literally come to a point where I could give two ****s less whether or not "my choice" is the prospect that is chosen; just...

****ing...

CHOOSE ONE.

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12696732)
**** that this team is ready to win now.

As was clearly demonstrated last week. Aside from the first "blowin' my wad in Quarter One"-series, the Chiefs put on a veritable clinic in shit-assed, useless offense. The Chiefs should have been paying the FANS to sit in the freezing rain and watch that abortion.
The only thing this team needs to "win", is to win big in the draft and hit a home run in the QB prospect department. If Billay has to miss the playoffs next year, and the resulting shame of being there with another plate of Alex Smith's good ol' Lil' Chiefy Shartloaf, then boo ****ing-hoo, and poor Billay.
:)

splatbass 01-19-2017 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12697556)
Y
We have literally come to a point where I could give two ****s less whether or not "my choice" is the prospect that is chosen; just...

****ing...

CHOOSE ONE.



"Just choose one to choose one" is an absolutely moronic way to run a football team. Luckily we have a GM that isn't as stupid as you.

GloryDayz 01-19-2017 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 12697089)
Johnny Manziel

:hmmm:

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-19-2017 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12697569)
"Just choose one to choose one" is an absolutely moronic way to run a football team. Luckily we have a GM that isn't as stupid as you.

Luckily we have a GM that understands the importance of the position, and who is not going to tie his success to the current piece of shit whose balls you seem to love massaging.

You are a goddamned reerun, and you deserve every play off loss you suffer.

splatbass 01-19-2017 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12697608)
Luckily we have a GM that understands the importance of the position, and who is not going to tie his success to the current piece of shit whose balls you seem to love massaging.

You are a goddamned reerun, and you deserve every play off loss you suffer.

No, a reerun says we should choose ANY QB in the 1st as long as it is in the 1st. Dorsey would NEVER do that. He will take one in the 1st if he thinks it is the best choice, otherwise he won't. This is what real pro GMs do, and he is one of the best. I trust him to make the right decision, and I also trust he won't take whatever QB is available in the 1st round just to take a 1st round QB. Because he is way smarter and far more knowledgable about football than you.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-19-2017 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12697624)
No, a reerun says we should choose ANY QB in the 1st as long as it is in the 1st. Dorsey would NEVER do that. He will take one in the 1st if he thinks it is the best choice, otherwise he won't. This is what real pro GMs do, and he is one of the best.

KnowMo>>>Splatbass

Piss off.

splatbass 01-19-2017 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12697629)
KnowMo>>>Splatbass

Piss off.

Do you really think Dorsey would take a QB that he thinks isn't right for this team in the first just to take a 1st round QB? Really? Is your IQ lower than your shoe size?

Mr. Laz 01-19-2017 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12697645)
Do you really think Dorsey would take a QB that he thinks isn't right for this team in the first just to take a 1st round QB? Really? Is your IQ lower than your shoe size?

I think Dorsey will ask his Head Coach and his close friend whether he wants another starting QB.

We have only drafted QB 5th round and below. That is just project territory.

Andy Reid will have to sign off on a QB higher than that because he is the guy who will be developing him. No way does Dorsey select a 1st round QB without Reid's complete approval.

splatbass 01-19-2017 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12697651)
I think Dorsey will ask his Head Coach and his close friend whether he wants another starting QB.

We have only drafted QB 5th round and below. That is just project territory.

Andy Reid will have to sign off on a QB higher than that because he is the guy who will be developing him. No way does Dorsey select a 1st round QB without Reid's complete approval.

We don't know if there were any QBs that Dorsey wanted that were taken by other teams first. There were teams that traded up ahead of us and took a QB. A lot of people thought we were going to take Manziel until the Browns jumped ahead of us (luckily as it turns out).

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-19-2017 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12697645)
Do you really think Dorsey would take a QB that he thinks isn't right for this team in the first just to take a 1st round QB? Really? Is your IQ lower than your shoe size?

Sorry I couldn't answer you sooner, I was on the Pro Bowl taking a Smith.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12697651)
I think Dorsey will ask his Head Coach and his close friend whether he wants another starting QB.

We have only drafted QB 5th round and below. That is just project territory.

Andy Reid will have to sign off on a QB higher than that because he is the guy who will be developing him. No way does Dorsey select a 1st round QB without Reid's complete approval.

Dorsey may actually value his career, job, and reputation.

It's also possible that Dorsey may NOT have a man-crush on Smith.

Many exciting possibilities!

splatbass 01-19-2017 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12697722)
Sorry I couldn't answer you sooner, I was on the Pro Bowl taking a Smith.



Dorsey may actually value his career, job, and reputation.

It's also possible that Dorsey may NOT have a man-crush on Smith.

Many exciting possibilities!

Do you have a point here? Dorsey, who doesn't work for Andy Reid, will take a QB when he thinks the time is right. And Andy Reid has never been afraid to change QBs. Ask McNabb, who he traded to a division rival to pretty much everyone's surprise.

Simplicity 01-20-2017 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12697097)
If you want to party, he's your man. If you want a pro QB not so much.

I assume you were kidding, since there was literally no team this year, including the desperate Browns, that signed him. No one in their right mind would want to replace a QB that is winning a lot of games with a guy that doesn't even care enough about football or making millions of dollars to even try to clean up his act. It isn't like he tried and failed, he never even tried.

I didn't even think last year he was allowed in the league because of a suspension of some sort. He has been tweeting lately about changes but obviously that won't be seen until his actions prove otherwise. I honestly wouldn't mind bringing him in for competition with a rookie or Alex. He has been so distracted in the past and if he could turn the corner under Reid and focus on football I believe he has the talent to be good. But I'm not putting too much hope on him turning the corner.

splatbass 01-20-2017 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 12697934)
I didn't even think last year he was allowed in the league because of a suspension of some sort. He has been tweeting lately about changes but obviously that won't be seen until his actions prove otherwise. I honestly wouldn't mind bringing him in for competition with a rookie or Alex. He has been so distracted in the past and if he could turn the corner under Reid and focus on football I believe he has the talent to be good. But I'm not putting too much hope on him turning the corner.

Even his father has given up on him.

Rasputin 01-20-2017 03:40 AM

My question is to the fan base & I think I know the answer but would a rookie quarterback get the same luxury as all these retread veterans with excuses? Drop balls, bad protection, play calling, poor defense yada yada yada?


How long does he get to prove himself? Is he awarded with a chance to learn from his mistakes or team growth? I just imagine those against drafting our QBotf will call for a veteran the first time he throws an interception. I hope I'm wrong and the prospect gets and takes advantage of all opportunities to be successful.

Nickhead 01-20-2017 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 12697406)

meh, those hidden touchdowns couldn't have stopped bell :D

(my gut told me we should have won this game by a score of 44-18 :D)

Mr. Laz 01-20-2017 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12697987)
My question is to the fan base & I think I know the answer but would a rookie quarterback get the same luxury as all these retread veterans with excuses? Drop balls, bad protection, play calling, poor defense yada yada yada?


How long does he get to prove himself? Is he awarded with a chance to learn from his mistakes or team growth? I just imagine those against drafting our QBotf will call for a veteran the first time he throws an interception. I hope I'm wrong and the prospect gets and takes advantage of all opportunities to be successful.

Andy Reid has already answered that question with a resounding "No".

We've cut every young QB we've acquired except Bray without much real developing. Instead of keeping a young guy longer, we go out and sign a veteran backup.(Chase,Foles)

That's why i have reached the conclusion that Reid has no real desire to deal with a rookie QB and would rather deal with a less talented veteran.

Dorsey will only draft a high round QB if Andy Reid wants one.

Mr. Laz 01-20-2017 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12697722)
Sorry I couldn't answer you sooner, I was on the Pro Bowl taking a Smith.



Dorsey may actually value his career, job, and reputation.

It's also possible that Dorsey may NOT have a man-crush on Smith.

Many exciting possibilities!

You think Dorsey will try to force a rookie QB on Andy Reid?

Not happening, no point in drafting a 1st round QB if the HC doesn't REALLY, REALLY want him. We've seen that happen many times in the NFL and it almost always ends badly.

All your coaches have to be 1000% on board. It's hard enough to succeed with a rookie QB as it is.

RunKC 01-20-2017 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12699015)
You think Dorsey will try to force a rookie QB on Andy Reid?

Not happening, no point in drafting a 1st round QB if the HC doesn't REALLY, REALLY want him. We've seen that happen many times in the NFL and it almost always ends badly.

All your coaches have to be 1000% on board. It's hard enough to succeed with a rookie QB as it is.

They were all over Paxton lynch last year and reporter they tried to trade up for him. McNabb was clearly declining in Philadelphia when Andy got rid of him.

We will draft a quarterback somewhere in this draft I just hope that it's in rounds one or two

Nickhead 01-20-2017 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12699015)
You think Dorsey will try to force a rookie QB on Andy Reid?

Not happening, no point in drafting a 1st round QB if the HC doesn't REALLY, REALLY want him. We've seen that happen many times in the NFL and it almost always ends badly.

All your coaches have to be 1000% on board. It's hard enough to succeed with a rookie QB as it is.

see how that worked out for the texans, one hand not talking to the other.

whatever they do with the qb situation, it will be mutually agreed upon. i think the only way they deviate from this plan is if clarke says 'you will draft this guy with this pick'. :D

Mr. Laz 01-20-2017 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 12699062)
see how that worked out for the texans, one hand not talking to the other.

whatever they do with the qb situation, it will be mutually agreed upon. i think the only way they deviate from this plan is if clarke says 'you will draft this guy with this pick'. :D

Hunt is too busy drooling over all the hot soccer studs to tell the Chiefs to do that.

Mr. Laz 01-20-2017 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12699039)
They were all over Paxton lynch last year and reporter they tried to trade up for him. McNabb was clearly declining in Philadelphia when Andy got rid of him.

We will draft a quarterback somewhere in this draft I just hope that it's in rounds one or two

Paxton stuff was a rumor, might or might not be true.

Andy Reid didn't get along with McNabb because he didn't like his constant freelancing. He didn't run the plays like Reid wanted. Alex Smith is a such a good soldier that he borderlines on being a droid.

Nickhead 01-20-2017 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12699089)
Hunt is too busy drooling over all the hot soccer studs to tell the Chiefs to do that.

that's right, clarke grew up thinking football was futball. damned ivy leagues!

Nickhead 01-20-2017 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12699098)
Paxton stuff was a rumor, might or might not be true.

Andy Reid didn't get along with McNabb because he didn't like his constant freelancing. He didn't run the plays like Reid wanted. Alex Smith is a such a good soldier that he borderlines on being a droid.

i ****ing wish i was any good with photoshop :D

http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/wp-co...5/06/C-3PO.jpg

RunKC 01-20-2017 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12699098)
Paxton stuff was a rumor, might or might not be true.

Andy Reid didn't get along with McNabb because he didn't like his constant freelancing. He didn't run the plays like Reid wanted. Alex Smith is a such a good soldier that he borderlines on being a droid.

His agent confirmed that the Chiefs had strong interest and wanted to trade up for him

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-20-2017 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12699170)
His agent confirmed that the Chiefs had strong interest and wanted to trade up for him

Can't wait until they make the move. The sooner Smith is forgotten, the better.

13and3 01-20-2017 07:37 PM

Instead of hiring an offensive coordinator let andy ried develop the game plan and let alex smith call his own plays at the line based on andy reids game plan. Co-coordinators

Nickhead 01-20-2017 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 13and3 (Post 12699601)
Instead of hiring an offensive coordinator let andy ried develop the game plan and let alex smith call his own plays at the line based on andy reids game plan. Co-coordinators

alex is on record as not wanting to call plays. :D

13and3 01-20-2017 08:47 PM

Alex smith seems much more comfortable going through progressions and finding the open receiver in the two minute offense when he is calling plays at the line of scrimmage.

DaneMcCloud 01-20-2017 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 12699654)
alex is on record as not wanting to call plays. :D

And you're on record as being a complete and utter worthless ****tard

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-20-2017 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12699717)
And you're on record as being a complete and utter worthless ****tard

What the **** does that have to do with anything that was just said?

And letting Alex "run the show"? He can't even do his OWN and FIRST ****ing job of being a QB.

God DAMN I'll be glad when that ****ing garbage-heap of a player leaves KC.


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