I don't think either should be banned.

Who gives a rat's ass if Claythan roots for injuries or losses?
Who the hell does it hurt, or how does it affect anything?

And Tiger's bullshit is just that.
Who does it hurt?

They are just opposite ends of the spectrum, and we should be able to get the **** over their stupidity.

Don't you have anything better to do than make the mods call other members on the phone and ask them to stop hurting your precious fee-fees?

**** you, **** your boyfriend Alex, and **** everybody who loves his dopey mug and "gawrsh, aw shucks" personality.

Get ****ed and die this Christmas.

I can see both sides to that. Everyone deals with things different than the next guy.
For myself, I've found the very first idiot to make it to my ignore list.
That's how I'm going to deal with it.
ATTENTIONBITCH, Enjoy your trolling.

This is exactly what is wrong with this site and why long time respected posters are leaving. MODs are inconsistent as hell.

Would you morons stop quoting him. It makes putting him on ignore ****ing useless.

LMAO
Merry Christmas

Yes.

We are not talking about "the exact same"... we are speaking in generalities about excuses vs legit reasons. Of course, a rookie gets more latitude... but reality is... an excuse is still an excuse.. and a legit reason is a legit reason.

ROFL

I'm not sure I get what you're trying to say. Quit beating around the bush and tell us how you really feel.

You seem really upset, SNR.

Perhaps you would feel better after a proper airing of grievances. This thread seems like as good a place as any to let fly. Unburden yourself.

Dinny

I agree with this.

Santa left me a 24 pack of Goldbones ball powder under the Christmas tree
2017 is gonna be a year to remember boys

No. Unless they draft the QB the CP 'experts' want (which will never happen because they always pick busts) CP will never like the QB. This is CP.

LMAO Geno Smith

I got MU'd for talking shit on him. Gonna be surprised if this actually goes through.

Actually it's being a chiefs fan. I can't remember any QB that was overwhelming liked since I started following in 87...

Grandpa always said the backup QB in KC is the most popular guy.

It appears you have had too much eggnog.

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Wait, first you tell us to be selective about our favored QB prospects because you can't just draft any QB just to say you drafted one. Now you're telling us to like the QB prospect we might one day draft no matter what because he's a QB and that's all that matters.

Which is it? You can't have both.

I watched Len Dawson play at the end of his career and a lot of people wanted Mike Livingston to start.

Before my time. 87/88 is when I really started my bandwagon fandom.

That isn't what I said. I said the Drafturbators won't like any QB that the Chiefs pick unless it is their darling - losers like Geno and Mark Sanchez. If the Chiefs take a QB that the Draturbaters didn't pick he will be hated, even if he is the right pick.

My point is that I don't recall KC loving a QB since Dawson, and they turned on him real fast when he faded because of age.

Drafturbators hate a lot of terrible QBs. Johnny Football. Brandon Weedon. Josh Freeman.

The only difference is people like you call every QB you see a shitty one unless it's Andrew Luck. So when the 70% of them don't make it, you crow about how selective and precise you are when it comes to this game.

Meanwhile, the Chiefs are still sucking shit through the Alex Smith straw and may continue doing the same thing and looking for a veteran to trade for instead of drafting their own guy.

I'm ashamed that I read any portion of this thread. CP is trash these days.

I thought Trent Green was generally well-liked...and so was Joe Montana. Dave Krieg/Deberg had their fans. I liked Gannon and I'm not alone there. Just because some of us haven't been content with Matt Cassel and Alex Smith these past 7-8 seasons (blech), doesn't mean we are incapable of liking someone at QB.

This.

They either hate every QB unless he's a once in a generation type talent OR they offer up no opinion. That way they're never wrong.

Trent Green was the ultimate example of this fan base being fair. We traded for a veteran and he had a terrible 2001 season. We treated him terribly. He dramatically improved in 2002. We liked him better (that was the birth of the Keep ****ing Doubting Trent Green thread). And 2003-2005 were breezes for him with this fanbase, even as we had some disappointing losses. He would make mistakes, but we'd keep backing him because we had seen him produce.

And don't say "OLINE" either, splatbass. If Alex Smith had Trent Green's OLine, he'd be just as ****ing pedestrian as he is now. Maybe he'd have a few more TDs, but I really doubt he'd crack 20 or get 4000 yards. Conservative play at all costs would continue to be the name of his game, and no amount of protection he had would ever change that.

And people like you call any QB that isn't a 1st round pick a shitty one. You will never accept a QB that comes from another team, unless it is Joe Montana.

And you don't think Andy Reid has anything to do with the conservative play? Haven't you noticed lately that Reid will open it up once in a while and Alex Smith will play well. He has made some good long throws lately. Then we get ahead and ANDY goes into a shell. But you blame Alex.

Quit derailing this thread

Side note: this guy is completely right

**** yourself.


I don't see how you think you can just tell people what to do around here.

If you're a mod be a ****ing mod, grow some balls, and do something about it. Otherwise shut the **** up, eat a bag of ****ing dicks, **** your mom, and then kill your dumbass self.

He just stated in that very post a qb besides Montana that he accepted.

It's on both of them. Andy calls some bad plays. That can't be understated. However it's Smith that is bailing on good pockets a lot. It's also Smith that is hurting us with his horrific pass to the endzone numbers.

The guy has improved his deeper throws this year. Simply put though, he needs to get better in the red zone and pick up some first downs with his legs after stuff breaks down. He also needs to stay in the pocket until it does. Right now he is bailing on pockets AND not picking up yards with his legs. That's a bad combo.

For better or worse, there is a better chance Alex improves some of that to 2015 levels than there is Andy improving his play calling.

6 years later, and I'm still right about Clausen.

Sorry I'm derailing this great glorious thread full of excellent commentary about football

In SNR's wall of amazing QBs, pictures of Sam Bradford, Geno Smith, and Jimmy Clausen would be hanging next to each other while a jar of cheese curds would be placed in the corner.

He's not a mod. The only mod that would pull off that spoof would be Phobia and he doesn't come around much any more. He also isn't Black Bob. I ran every cross check you could imagine on his IP when he first showed up and he's not Bob or even a mult. If he would have been Bob, he would have been banned on the spot.

Same thing for the mediocrity lovers. Draft a QB vs take a veteran that is a proven nobody and you will have true fan meltdowns every day.

Goes both ways.

Seems to me that Andy and Alice are both equally at fault. A scared coach and a scared QB... never a good combo.

I hated Sam Bradford. I always have. You're the doofus who was "right" about Sam Bradford.

Sam Bradford was and will always remain the Chosen One.

If T-Up is not Black Bob............

Then who is?

Dinny

I think he's the only guy who has been able to top Matt Cassel for the most money made for the least amount of production and/or games played.

From what I can see, just one dude, not a mult.

Matt Flynn says other wise.

I think you boys have enough wrong to go around for all of us.

Didn't your team just get beat by the Browns?

Remember when Warren Moon and the chiefs got beat by a winless SD for their only win of the season.

Yup. Although overall the Warren Moon era Chiefs are pretty forgettable.

Difference is you might expect a rookie to miss some wide-open reads. You might expect a rookie to be a bit conservative and not take the tight shots a veteran would. There are differences, but the leash given for those excuses tightens rather quickly.

That's where the "Alex bashing" comes into play. People expect Alex to play with a bit more confidence in himself and the players around him, players that are very good at their positions. He doesn't trust his O-line enough, for sure. If Alex ever took the handcuffs off himself, he'd be a very good QB. He certainly has the abilities, but doesn't use them with any regularity. He's so self-constricting that he misses quite a few opn shots down the field and doesn't take those tight-windowed shots that would result in big plays. That doesn't mean he doesn't make those plays sometimes, and that isn't to mean that those who criticize Smith are saying he never does it.

Alex actually reminds me of Matt Hasselbeck, but a little better at avoiding turnovers. He really doesn't go out and win you games with strong statistical showings, he just doesn't do enough damage to make his team lose very often. It's a boring brand of football. After watching horrendous play at the position, fans get to watch boring. That's a recipe for some disgruntled fans. They want to be entertained and have some excitement. They want their turn to have a Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady.

All this makes it a tough out for Alex. He isn't bad. He just isn't good enough in many fan's eyes, especially those that have watched this same thing for decades. His style, with the defense the Chiefs have had the past few years, has been enough to win games. Many don't see that as adequate to beat the elite teams in the league in the playoffs. The Chiefs' defense isn't on par with the 2000 Ravens, 2011 Giants, or the 2014 Seahawks. Is Alex enough without that type of defense? Can Alex get a little Brett Favre in his system come playoff time, which starts tonight in my opinion, and just try to make some plays sometimes?

The real problem is that neither side of this concedes anything. Those that cheer him seem to do so just as blindly as those that criticize him. Alex has flaws. He also has some decent traits.

Who? :D

IT goes both ways. I dont think Andy trust Alex enough, and i dont think Alex Trusts himself enough. That makes for some boring ass offense. Alex has the ability to check out of a play if he doesnt like the call that Andy is calling.

WE have all just seen this story before. Most of us expect the same ending, becasue its so familiar to anyone over 25-30 years old. Do i like Alex as QB of the Chiefs? NO NO NO NO NO **** NO, but i do want him to do well and i wish him the best. Im a CHiefs fan first, but that doesnt mean i have to agree with the Choices they make for this team. Yeah yeah, i know the well they get paid to do this job they know more then what the average fan does. Thats true, but even the average fan knows when something isnt going to work for the pot of gold at the end.

I know he's not.

I'm starting too think maybe he's not Bob. But I'll be god damned if they aren't cut from the same cloth

Hopefully the fantasy people have with sucking uncle dick will go away.

Oh I'm sure he's sucked more than his share

it's horrific anyway.

Making fun of someone who was molested as a kid is despicable. CP is great for its liberal moderation, but this should be condemned. It's as low as mocking someone for having cancer.. or something similar.

It's not molestation if it's consensual.

I've been told the worst thing is complaining about it.

I'm not sure if initially he was so much as sucking as maybe a family member through a dick in his mouth just to shut him up. And then it became his go to move.
:D

Its a real classy rabbit to pull out of the hat for sure.

Makes me wonder if some of the ones accusing of the act have themselves have been on the snotty end of a meat stick.

When its an act of malice it crosses the line.

Sure ShouldNotReproduce tells me suck aids dick blah blah blah. Meanwhile he is over at Claynus's getting his asshole thumb popped.

So it's classy, and that's why you're using the same insult?

Yes it is.

Children can't consent.

And you know this how? Dude I'm kidding. LOL

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You ****ing love Tiger. That's because you're a ****ing idiot.

I've never met Clay, but I love his crafty troll tricks and the content he brings to the site.

Big difference between liking a dipshit with a personality that makes nobody like him even when they agree on stuff and liking Clay because he's entertaining.

If the guy minded his own business, it'd be a problem.

I have no qualms whatsoever when it's Tiger Bob.

Dude lives in your head and you swing from your boys nutts. The perfect recipe for a Happy Holiday. Shove a Festivus pole up your ass till you choke on your Kotex.

You are the same way with Clay you douche.

For anyone saying TU is worse than Clay...

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthr...51#post4883251

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthr...46#post4883246

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthr...01#post4883201

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthr...96#post4883196

Yeah I started a ban Clay thread, followed him around saying he sucked dick while polishing my knob at my computer eating Cheetos. Results seem different... Clay is gone.

You have 138 posts devoted to Clay at least.

Could bump all the worthless OL busts that the same time people have pimped over the years or the Aaron Curry types.

139.... **** CLAYNUS

You're an idiot if you think you posting in multiple threads and diluting said threads with your posts had any reason to do why Clay is gone.

Clay is gone because Clay can't keep his hand out of the cookie jar.

I dont think for one second i had anything to do with the way that dumb shit got banned.

Might read the threads :thumb:

I wouldn't suspect it. I do think it's ironic that you are calling snr out for doing to tu what you did to clay.

"Worse"...is being far too kind.

The difference is, the number of posters who will crucify Reid( and to a lesser extent, Dorsey )will be far, far greater. The "Smith Experience" has already turned all but the most die-hard Trufies in a southerly direction with regards to "trusting the process" that the franchise has employed with regards to the position.
At a minimum, the number of posters who backed a philosophy of, "I know that this move in principle sucks balls, be we owe it to the Dorseid to give it chance" drops by 50% if not greater.
The patience has run out.

This is the correct mindset and response that a seasoned CP poster should be espousing.

SNR has already addressed this in a detailed manner with you, so I will simply add that at THIS point, most if not all don't give a **** if the M&M is green, brown, blue, or yellow; can we just have the ****ing candy, please?

At this point, any such QB from another team better have the last name "Luck", "Brady", "Wilson" or "Rape" etc. Bringing Andy ****ing Dalton to this franchise gets your car egged, day one.

Shouldn't Alex (of all QB's under God) be able to execute "conservative" offense with some degree of consistent success?

It is pretty hilarious to watch Clay argue against Broncos fans about the Chiefs talent this year.

Even more so to watch him get called out on the Mane for hiding from a Chiefs forum after trying to showboat over there.

Dude, I get it. I'm no fan of Smith and 99% of me believes that Andy and Alex have us doomed to fail in January, but you know, on this Christmas that 1% of me is having its moment in the sun, and it's a good feeling.