Its really frustrating that auto dealers take Sundays off. Weekends are the only option for shopping for me.

Thats changing. Some are open now and they are busy as hell. Other lots will be forced to open.

I don't get how this ever started. You take away 1 of the two days that the vast majority of your customers have off?

You're better off buying from private owners anyway.

Actually that's a good time to go take an initial look at a car without some salesman breathing down your neck right away.

Having a 2004 Nissan sentra se R with 121000 miles checked at my mechanic. Asking price is 3995. Thoughts

Some of those years had TERRIBLE issues with head gaskets.

Mechanic just got back. Said all it needs is a valve cover gasket. Leaking oil

Pretty sure it was 03-05 if it's one of the engines with the problem run away

I would do some research on that engine if I were you. It's getting to the point where it will fail if it's one of the problem ones

Don't tell him that, I just saw pictures on Facebook. They bought it.

LMAO Came here to post the same thing.

Spoke to the mechanics about what jason said and they confirmed that issue was not this engine. This engine only has a history with valve cover gaskets. The dealership agreed to pay for the work.

Nice, hope the car ends up being a good one

so do I. I hope my son treats this one better too since he paid for it.

Did it break down yet?

Find yourself a hungry ass salesman. They'll do whatever you want.

This. I'm friends with a salesman, and when he started he was absolutely furious they were closing for Labor Day. So he put his card on all the windshield wipers of every car in the lot. Sold 4 cars that day. In podunk ass Kansas.

Hope it works out. If it doesn't last, at least he doesn't owe money on it. Or if he does, it's not $10 Grand.

You are a dick. ROFL

:clap: awesome!

That's great. Congrats

And he drove it into a curb tearing up his wheel.

I'm beside myself right now

Starting to see my limit on how far I'm willing to stick my neck out to help him at this point.

They change when daddy's pocketbook snaps shut and they have to deal with the irresponsible issues they create. My son is learning that also .

Right now it is sounding as if the repair may be more than the car is worth. He only had it for two ****ing months.

:facepalm:

Wow.

damn, what is the issue?


im betting a knee assembly just like austin's friend a while back.

don't know for sure yet. The body shop guy hasn't looked at it. Mechanic said it will require some welding though. He didn't sound to positive about recovery.

Welding? how fast was he going?


that just doesnt sound right, can we get some pics

I haven't even seen it yet. Not sure I want to.

He said that he was going straight at 45mph on a 40mph road, started to hydroplane and went into the curb. I have a feeling that he actually took a turn too fast on a wet road and lost control. The way the mechanic describes it it sounds way more extensive than what my son is telling me.

i just cant see anything on a suspension that would need welding. in fact i would never weld on most suspension parts...

Maybe he damaged the subframe?

WEll that would be worse

Kids fabricating a story to cover their ass? WTF?;)

Sorry to hear that dude. My 17 yr old has been pretty good with his (my) car so far. I suspect I'm on borrowed time with that concept.

I'm just a stupid parent though. :thumb:

Stupid? No. Love is blind, my friend. Love is blind.........

I feel for ya, man. My 18 year old wrecked his first car after having it just about 3 weeks. Then he was working across town and so I would let him borrow my truck at times because it was a PITA to drive out there. He was fine for awhile and then nearly 1 year after his first accident, he put the side of my truck into a highway entrance sign. :banghead: Let me tell ya, he was scared shitless. Perhaps that was because I had always told him to drive very carefully and if he ever wrecked my truck I would murder him. /shrug

Needless to say, he paid for the body shop ($500 insurance deductible) and the raise in insurance rate. Hopefully, that will teach him. I would kick him off my insurance and make him get his own, but it would be a lot more costly for him. And the kid is working his butt off. We helped him buy a new used car (of which he's about to pay off today) and he's been okay with that so far. Knock on wood.

Sucks man.

I tore up a transmission and ripped a mirror off a car when I was in High School. I got to pay for all that. It's a different time though. Shit is ****ing expensive. If a kid works 600 hours at $7(50 hours a week for the summer), that will get him $4200. That's pretty tough to get a car bought and gas and...and...and... On top of it they pretty much can't get a job until they're 16. It's just pretty tough to make a car work at that money.

I had saved a mountain of money because I started working every day during the summer when I was 10. That and I worked far more than 50 hours a week during the summer.

Either way, unless all the kid does is work during his teen years, he's going to need some help. It really sucks for the parents.

My nephew dinged up his car the other day. He still owes his mom over half of it and my dad had to help him straighten shit out. Kids are dumb. I was too, I just had the income to pay for it.

Buehlerridesmopeds? ROFL

WTF did I do? I bet Reerun threw that tag up. He knows how dumb I'd look on a moped.

This carnage pics please, you know he took 800 pics with his phone, let s see his handy work.

o:-)

they are bolt in usually, no way i would weld on one. too much liability and once metal bends it is more prone to breakage.

Bro, I highly doubt anyone thinks that. I think most are thinking what a great dad you are, and of course what you're going to do next.

One of my friends bought a brand new SUV for his wife, I think it was a Toyota that she had fallen in love with. She didn't like used cars, insisted on a brand new one. It was either the second or the third day they owned it. She thought it was in reverse, it was not... crashed into a neighbor's truck

Bent the sub frame in my 79 Camaro. It was totaled after that. I had a friend that hit a curb at 15 mph and wrecked the axle and something else. Car was totaled.

He wasn't hydroplaning, he was driving around with his head up his ass. He needs to spend some quality time with a bicycle.

Sounds like a bus pass or other public transportation for a while will whip him into not wanting to **** up again.

I would just start making him have a personal loan to you if you don't feel like you should fit the bill and hold him responsible for his actions. If he can't afford the fix now which I assume he can't, you'll pay for it and then he owes you a minimum amount of money each month until it's paid off. That's what my parents did to me in high school and college.

This would have never happened if you had bought him a nicer car. :evil:

Yeah, I'd cut him off immediately. My parents did the same with me, and that was the moment I started waking the **** up and acting more responsibly. As much as I hated it at the time, I've thanked them repeatedly since then.

Lucky guy. I walked 3 miles each way to my grocery bagging job until I could afford my own car.

I was just being facetious.

He already owes us for the car loan which was 4400. Now he gets to add another 2500 to 3500 to that if we pay for this

Things are different now days

Have you got some pics?

I wouldn't worry about cosmetics at this point. Make it drive able and safe then make him drive it into the ground

Yea would love to see pics. **** the body work. Get it working and he can deal with having a shitty cosmetic looking car.

I'm planning to stop by the mechanic in the morning so I can look at it and take pics. I'll post them when I do.

The price is including painting so I may tell them to not bother with that. I just want it driveable.

This.


Make him realize that if he wants nice things he has to keep them nice or they aren't nice anymore.


There is no "make my shit nice again" fairy.

Ohh the other car was a 2004 Honda. Had about 1200 miles on it.

No way a 1200 mile car hit a curb at 15 mph and came anywhere close to totaling it.

Guaranteed. Ive seen what they will do prior to totaling cars with that low mileage.

LMAO


Make it safe and drivable **** the looks.

Yep. It'll drive with bent sheet metal. My nephew learned this recently.

Welding eh? Yeah, hrmmm im curious about that.

I'm considering not even helping him this time and making him go all summer without a car.

I still can't figure how he did thousands of dollars worth of damage just by hitting a curb. His story sounds fishy at best.

he hit the curb so hard it pushed the wheel back.

Texting and drivings a bitch.

Really hoping thats NOT what happened. Considering he was with me when our fan got plowed by a guy messing with his damn phone.

That could have been your old car man.

I was in a car that hit a curb at around 25 MPH, totalled out the car. Hit it just right. Not saying, that it happened that way, but it can happen.

That Honda you talked about earlier that was only going 15? you tell stories as well as gurus kid.

That really doesn't take much. A bent lower control arm by itself can do that.


Guarantee a knee assembly could be bought for less than 300 bucks

I'm not seeing how that equates to a 2300 repair job.

Definitely talk to Jason's auto before you drop any cash on that bitch.

Okay, now I'm seeing at least a couple grand. Hell that wheel is probably $300 on its own. Everything else on that side is probably ****ed up too.

Pull a used wheel out of a junk yard for about 1/10 of that?
The other stuff I have no clue about.

Not shit!

Glad I sold it to some 20 year old girl who probably drives very cautiously and like a grandma.

I think this sounds like texting and hitting a curb too. Only way you would hit something that hard would be not paying attention and slamming into it.

True, if he's not worried about aesthetics, a cheap steelie would work just fine.

That, or simply driving waaaay too fast for the conditions. In my 30 years of driving I've only hydroplaned to the point where I didn't have control of the car one time, and that was when I hit a giant water puddle on a highway going 50-60 mph after a heavy rain. And even then, it didn't put me into the curb.

Really depends on if it was a mountable curb or barrier curb and how high. Also angle at which he hit the curb. I have jumped curbs in my work truck at angle to get off the road and in a median out of traffic with zero problems. Most likely it was the type car and without a beefed up off road suspension. Chalk it up to young and inexperienced hopefully learn from this.

Pic number one does, looks like he's pushed the suspension mounting points on the body all to shit. Even fixed that car will never be the same.

15-25 = around 25. I was in the car when it happened. The car was totaled and he got a new car.