Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8300828)

Ooook we all know the story. Now why didn't the same rules apply to frazod, dartgod, and company? They should have also been encouraged to avoid contact with him. I'm actually getting pissed because this could have been completely avoided if hootie and the parties involved all ignored each other. You gave him an impossible restriction when the opposition had none pertaining to him. They had rights to jump on him when he was supposed to bend over and say, "Please sir, I want some more?" **** that.

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8301183)

That's a pretty good analogy and it's completely accurate but it doesn't account for probation. Let's make up another analogy involving popping on a piss test and a player being on probation.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8301181)

Those posts were less than 11 months old. I don't really give a shit about defending him. I give a shit about calling out you for being a piece of shit. You're always the victim in your own mind, so I realize that you can't differentiate the two.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8301167)

It's not your fault that he made those posts. That said, you're acting like an NBA referee who keeps calling carrying on one player who was twice banned from the NBA, then was specifically told that the only way he would ever be able to play again is if he never carried, while never calling it on any other player in the league while pointing to the wording in the rule book that defines a carry and saying that it isn't your fault he carried the ball. Every player in the league carries the ball every time it's brought up court, but it's just that one player who keeps getting whistled.

What is your fault is your selective interpretation and enforcement of the rules.

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8301154)

If you and you alone feel that Hootie shouldn't be here, then it looks like that is enough.

Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 8301193)

**** off. I didn't make one single post directed at Hootie after came back. Know what you are talking about before clicking the submit button, will ya?

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8301208)

That's probably my fault. I included your name since there were 3 names on the original restrictions for Hootie.

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8301200)

Does this little vendetta of your expand to everybody who was disgusted by Hootie's behavior, or just me? Seriously, I'm going to compile a list for you, so that you can share your sweet lovins with the other decent members of the community. I feel guilty getting all your attention.

Would you like a list of people who married too young and got divorced? I could hook you up with that, too. We're all really evil.

And how about people who did drugs when they were younger and then grew up/beat the habit? Oh wait, that only happened to me.

Who knew - if I'd just raped some pass-out slut instead doing drugs, I could have earned your undying love and respect. It really hurts me that don't meet with your approval. LMAO

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8301199)

So the league suspends one player for carrying the ball because they don't like him. The rest of the players in the league carry the ball just as often, but they go to David Stern's barbeque in the offseason, so this one player is the only one who gets suspended.

Then, when he comes back to the league, he's still on probation. He very slightly rolls his hand over the ball (nothing near as bad as he did before his suspension, and nothing as bad as the rest of the players in the league do on a routine basis), so the league bans him for two years saying that he violated probation.

How's that?

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8301203)

That's pretty important.

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8301166)

Since I'm unqualified to take sides on this or practically any other issue, this actually sounds pretty rational.

But, speaking as someone who really doesn't care one way or the other about any of this, it really does seem as though Mr. Hootie is treated differently than other posters. Some people on this board just don't like other people on this board. It's human nature. I, for example, cannot bear Mr. gblowfish and his wacky "10 things" threads. I fully expect to see a "10 things" I did this week thread from now until the end of time as we know it. That would be okay, of course, were it not for the fact that sometimes in life there are 11 things and sometimes there are only 9 things. Heck, sometimes there are only 5 or 6 things. It stretches credulity, in fact, that a person encounters 10 things week after week after week with no deviation whatsoever. Yet, we get 10 things regardless of whether or not 10 things are warranted. I assume that Mr. gblowfish has 10 toes. Coincidence? I shall leave that for you to determine.

Meanwhile, I understand that Mr. Hootie and Mr. frazod and Mr. Dartgod and Mr. CrazyCoffee don't see eye to eye. In fact, it appears that Mr. Hootie is equally at home pissing in Planet Cheerios as he is in the shower. However, I fail to see the distinction between his board behavior and that of many other posters whom I shall not name for fear of getting my own ass banned to hell and gone.

Frankly, this whole deal sounds like Mr. Hootie slobbered on somebody's finger when he kissed the ring.

FAX

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8301214)

You just don't ****ing get it.

This guy's name is public knowledge on this board yet you falsely accuse a 25(?) year old kid of ****ing rape. You are a sick creep. Shit like that can ruin a person's life. For anyone to falsely, knowingly, and continually lob rape charges at a kid is beyond disgusting. For a middle-aged loser with skeletons filling your closet, basement, shed, and public storage facility to do so while acting as if you are somehow above him is beyond pathetic.

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8301166)

Since I'm unqualified to take sides on this or practically any other issue, this actually sounds pretty rational.

But, speaking as someone who really doesn't care one way or the other about any of this, it really does seem as though Mr. Hootie is treated differently than other posters. Some people on this board just don't like other people on this board. It's human nature. I, for example, cannot bear Mr. gblowfish and his wacky "10 things" threads. I fully expect to see a "10 things" I did this week thread from now until the end of time as we know it. That would be okay, of course, were it not for the fact that sometimes in life there are 11 things and sometimes there are only 9 things. Heck, sometimes there are only 5 or 6 things. It stretches credulity, in fact, that a person encounters 10 things week after week after week with no deviation whatsoever. Yet, we get 10 things regardless of whether or not 10 things are warranted. I assume that Mr. gblowfish has 10 toes. Coincidence? I shall leave that for you to determine.

Meanwhile, I understand that Mr. Hootie and Mr. frazod and Mr. Dartgod and Mr. CrazyCoffee don't see eye to eye. In fact, it appears that Mr. Hootie is equally at home pissing in Planet Cheerios as he is in the shower. However, I fail to see the distinction between his board behavior and that of many other posters whom I shall not name for fear of getting my own ass banned to hell and gone.

Frankly, this whole deal sounds like Mr. Hootie slobbered on somebody's finger when he kissed the ring.

FAX

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8301217)

He got put on probation for doing the same thing that other players in the league do routinely. Those other players are facebook friends with the commissioner and hang out with David Stern from time to time, so they don't get put on probation in the first place.

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8301225)

Saul, Hootie admitted to ****ing a drunken chick who was passed out. It might not be rape but it certainly was sexual assault. Nobody is making that up he seriously said it.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8301217)

He got put on probation for doing the same thing that other players in the league do routinely. Those other players are facebook friends with the commissioner and hang out with David Stern from time to time, so they don't get put on probation in the first place.

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8301219)

I really don't like Hootie, but what was done was petty and he was set up to fail.

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8301215)

First one was better. But I'm done denying there's an inner circle. There is definitely an inner circle. It's incredibly difficult to crack too. I wouldn't even try.

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8301225)

Saul, Hootie admitted to ****ing a drunken chick who was passed out. It might not be rape but it certainly was sexual assault. Nobody is making that up he seriously said it.

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8301225)

Saul, Hootie admitted to ****ing a drunken chick who was passed out. It might not be rape but it certainly was sexual assault. Nobody is making that up he seriously said it.

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8301225)

Saul, Hootie admitted to ****ing a drunken chick who was passed out. It might not be rape but it certainly was sexual assault. Nobody is making that up he seriously said it.

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8301233)

Other players in the league have been banned from the league forever?

Your facebook analogy is bunk too. I'm friends with Joey and he's been banned twice in the past month. I'm facebook friends with probably 100 ChiefsPlanet members. I couldn't begin to connect usernames to IRL names on half of them.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8301240)

IFinally, one of the best posters on the forum...put on probation and banned for 2 years

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8301230)

Who cares?

It was an amusing story.

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 8301241)

Do you have a link to that please?

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8301240)

I'm not saying it's difficult to crack. I'm not even saying that membership shouldn't have it's privileges. It's been taken to the extreme, though.

You've got a middle aged man who adds negligible football insight to the forum running around and falsely accusing a person (not an anonymous internet handle mind you, but a person whose real first and last names are widely known) of rape. Meanwhile, he has started 40+ threads about douche contests on the forum...nothing happens because he goes to CP functions

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8301219)

I really don't like Hootie, but what was done was petty and he was set up to fail.

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8301270)

Wrong. Nothing happens because he hasn't broken any rules to my knowledge. Nobody has ever reported a Frazod post as far as I can remember.


Wrong. He paid the price and he was incredibly remorseful.


I'm done trying to change this perception. Dude had a probation agreement. He broke it. Sorry. Not my fault.

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8301173)

He didn't last 3 weeks. He got banned for 2 days almost immediately after coming back.



The terms of the probation were laid out via PM from DaFace. I didn't have anything to do with those original terms. So, if they're underhanded and manipulative then you're going to have to take that up with DaFace who is the fairest mod in the history of ChiefsPlanet if you ask anybody including Hootie.

You're still telling me that I should suggest to Frazod and Dartgod that they should watch their step around Hootie since Hootie is on probation and he's been instructed to avoid them. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8301267)

I'll try to find it when I get home. I recall several posters calling him out on it when it was posted.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8301284)

I'll make it easy for you. It's discussed in some detail in one of frazod's douche contest threads made in the past 2 years. That should narrow it down to only 60 or 70 threads.

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8301282)

Ok two days, my bad. But dude, your JOB is to keep the peace, and asking two members to ignore ONE member, which I feel like you think that's handcuffing them or punishing them, to keep said peace for the greater good and not just to cater to long time members seems very reasonable. We are all adults, you are acting like a mom, who thinks the world of her two kids and hates the prodigal son, so she lets the others kick him in the nuts everyday, and punishes him for blocking one of their kicks. The fact you can't see simple logic, or rather ignoring it, is absolutely ridiculous. You can use the contract drawn up or whatever by the most reasonable mod, which DaFace was, but you and you alone banned him, and it wasn't a collective decision. BIASED.

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8301282)

Ok two days, my bad. But dude, your JOB is to keep the peace, and asking two members to ignore ONE member, which I feel like you think that's handcuffing them or punishing them, to keep said peace for the greater good and not just to cater to long time members seems very reasonable. We are all adults, you are acting like a mom, who thinks the world of her two kids and hates the prodigal son, so she lets the others kick him in the nuts everyday, and punishes him for blocking one of their kicks. The fact you can't see simple logic, or rather ignoring it, is absolutely ridiculous. You can use the contract drawn up or whatever by the most reasonable mod, which DaFace was, but you and you alone banned him, and it wasn't a collective decision. BIASED.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8301280)

Fair enough. In your opinion, has hootie ever done anything as reprehensible as knowingly, accurately repeating some some punk joyfully bragged about in an open forum?

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8301278)

So, Hootie's choices were...

- Stay permabanned for something he admits was a bannable offense.

or

- Be allowed back, but "set up to fail", since there's absolutely no way to ignore people on this board. No, wait... if self control isn't enough, there's a nifty ignore feature.

And for the 20th time, he didn't simply not ignore people, he started going after them... I read one interaction where he just stepped into a conversation and said "don't listen to that guy, he's just a lowlife blah blah". That's not trying to sneak across the street to the gas station while on house arrest... that's taking a road trip, then saying "but, everyone takes road trips!"

Damnit, now I'm doing analogies, too.

Seriously, I don't get what's so difficult to understand. Hootie understands he committed a bannable offense, so he knew the alternative was to never post here again... spending two weeks playing nice, followed by attacking people in threads that made no mention of him is kind of like gochiefs posting a gif that says "**** the mods" the day after coming back from a filter evasion ban. It makes the mods look like idiots for ever trying.

Not that they need help looking like idiots -- zing!

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8301301)

I'm not going to take any kind of administrative action on anybody who isn't under scrutiny. There's no other moderator that will do it either.

I'm going to ask you to stop responding to this thread now.

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8301310)

Fine. Revel in my ignorance.

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8301295)

Here's a good one:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=220613

Hamas and Dane were all over Hootie in this thread accusing him of rape - funny, but aren't these the same guys Saul of lamenting about not being on the BB earlier!

I guess they get a pass, though.

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8301308)

Bearcat wtf dude? Why weren't frazod and dartgod who obviously can't let things go, not asked to compensate one tiny iota and ignore him? You act like they are saints too, but they seem like common sense posters to you mods, while hootie just isn't. That's how he is, can't change the man. Keep the peace without being unbiased. A mod's job.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8301318)

I apologize to you, frazod. As long as others are falsely accusing someone of rape, it's okay that you do it too.

You're awfully adept at rationalizing away your hideous faults. I've seen Intervention enough to know that this is a common trait among people like you. Actually, all of your behavior is pretty much par for the course other than your penchant for extreme weight gain. That is uniquely frazod.

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8301308)

Bearcat wtf dude? Why weren't frazod and dartgod who obviously can't let things go, not asked to compensate one tiny iota and ignore him? You act like they are saints too, but they seem like common sense posters to you mods, while hootie just isn't. That's how he is, can't change the man. Keep the peace without being unbiased. A mod's job.

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8301321)

I TOLD YOU TO LEAVE THIS THREAD!!!! LEAVE IMMEDIATELY!!!

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8301325)

I made you and Hootie your own thread, big guy. There we can delve into the depths of your devotion without ruining any other meaningful discussions.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8301347)

Another thread ridding the board of trolls? How mature of you.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8301284)

I'll make it easy for you. It's discussed in some detail in one of frazod's douche contest threads made in the past 2 years. That should narrow it down to only 60 or 70 threads.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8301373)

Actually, no its not.

It's in the opening post of a thread Hootie's created about the incident. One where he said he set out to the bar with one goal. Where he said this girl woke up and "came to her senses" in the middle of the act. Where he said he knew he had a limited amount of time before she realized what was happening.

Which, ironically, he deleted 6 days ago.

Odd that he'd delete a post he made in 2009 in January 2012.

Argue all you want, but simply knowing a woman or having sex with her previously does not imply consent. I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that in most states, having sex with a woman who is too drunk to consent is considered rape, or at the least, sexual assault.

He not being falsely accused at all. He ****ing bragged about it.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8301373)

Actually, no its not.

It's in the opening post of a thread Hootie's created about the incident. One where he said he set out to the bar with one goal. Where he said this girl woke up and "came to her senses" in the middle of the act. Where he said he knew he had a limited amount of time before she realized what was happening.

Which, ironically, he deleted 6 days ago.

Odd that he'd delete a post he made in 2009 in January 2012.

Argue all you want, but simply knowing a woman or having sex with her previously does not imply consent. I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that in most states, having sex with a woman who is too drunk to consent is considered rape, or at the least, sexual assault.

He not being falsely accused at all. He ****ing bragged about it.

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8301397)

I haven't read any of that garbage. I'd rather not. I'm still sick to my stomach recalling the posts where he admitted to spreading STD's knowingly and laughing about it. All this Hootie love from the past couple of days is mind-boggling to me. People must not read that dude's stuff.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8301373)

Actually, no its not.

It's in the opening post of a thread Hootie's created about the incident. One where he said he set out to the bar with one goal. Where he said this girl woke up and "came to her senses" in the middle of the act. Where he said he knew he had a limited amount of time before she realized what was happening.

Which, ironically, he deleted 6 days ago.

Odd that he'd delete a post he made in 2009 in January 2012.

Argue all you want, but simply knowing a woman or having sex with her previously does not imply consent. I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that in most states, having sex with a woman who is too drunk to consent is considered rape, or at the least, sexual assault.

He not being falsely accused at all. He ****ing bragged about it.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8301398)

Funny how I'm "owned", but I'm the only one that has quoted anything even remotely close to the topic.

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8301282)

Ok two days, my bad. But dude, your JOB is to keep the peace, and asking two members to ignore ONE member, which I feel like you think that's handcuffing them or punishing them, to keep said peace for the greater good and not just to cater to long time members seems very reasonable. We are all adults, you are acting like a mom, who thinks the world of her two kids and hates the prodigal son, so she lets the others kick him in the nuts everyday, and punishes him for blocking one of their kicks. The fact you can't see simple logic, or rather ignoring it, is absolutely ridiculous. You can use the contract drawn up or whatever by the most reasonable mod, which DaFace was, but you and you alone banned him, and it wasn't a collective decision. BIASED.

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 8301414)

Who in the **** is this n00b? Is he a mult? He sure seems well versed in planet history and he posts a helluva lot like a former member. According to his join date he's only been here a few months but posts like he's been here for years.

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8301403)

No, it's not that people don't realize he is a douche, but there are plenty of other people here who post equally bad trash on here. At least Hootie mixes in some solid takes as well.

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8301420)

Hootie posted some good sports stuff, no doubt. That was the reason we brought him back. It's almost like he was in the inner circle because of his sports knowledge... getting all the special treatment from the mods - lifting a permaban.

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8301418)

Ban His Ass!!!

FAX

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 8301425)

Thankfully someone had quoted his post so he couldn't delete that

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ht=rape&page=3

Originally Posted by Hootie http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/image...s/viewpost.gif
I always go to the same bar on Wednesday's....

My ex-girlfriend is there every Wednesday as well...we don't really talk that much, but we're not enemies or anything...

We have a very interesting story, but I won't get into it because it's pretty surreal and I doubt many would believe it because it simply doesn't make any sense...

Anyways my current 'kind of girlfriend yet not to serious' was out of town for a birthday party or something so I told my friend that I had one goal, and it was to hook up with my ex, but he didn't think I could...

I had my doubts, because I knew she was either with someone else or into someone else...she had a long term boyfriend who was her best friend that will always hate me because he thinks I'm the reason she broke up with him, but the truth is she wasn't physically into him and considered him more of a brother than a boyfriend...but I could tell a few weeks ago when she stopped staring at me all of the time that she had found a new "fling"...

Anyways, this girl is a hardcore drinker...she gets wasted and that's when we used to have the majority of our "fun"...

Last week I was with my "girlfriend" and she kept walking by and hitting me in the back...I didn't pay any attention because that's what I usually do, but I knew that she was jealous and that I could use that to my benefit if I wanted to...

So back to last night...my friend had his doubts, but after I was sufficiently drunk enough, I decided to "put myself in the right place", meaning somewhere where I could entice her drunkness with my presence...

and it pretty much worked perfectly.

Her roommate came and talked to me (I was talking to some of my "girlfriends" at a random table)...we were talking about our Chocco Mountain (Mario Kart) races back in the day...and then all of the sudden she was like "do you want to have sex with Emily tonight?"

Hahahahaha. I asked her if she put her up to that to which she denied...but then I knew I was in...so I worked my way over to Em-dawg...and before I knew it we ditched the bar and it was on...

Then, out of nowhere, in the middle of my devious sexual escapade, my ex realizes she is pretty hammered and essentially kicks me out of her apartment (I live across the street from her and the bar is two blocks away)...I'm not mad because I pretty much accomplished everything I set out to do...and figured she was probably going to come to her senses sometime between 1 AM and 3 AM so at least I had hooked up with her again (my goal) for the first time in a month or so...

Anyways, I went back to the bar and my friends thought this whole ordeal was hilarious and were amazed that I somehow pulled it off...but something wasn't right with my ex (probably period week) and my left hand (fingering hand) smelt like total ass...now, we're drunk and find it hilarious that my hand reeks of pussy...

So the rest of the night at the bar my friend and I play a game with just about every girl leaving...

I'd look at Andy (my friend) and say..."dude I think it smells like vanilla", and then he'd say "no dude...it smells like chocolate!"...and then we'd turn to the random leaving girl and say, "what do you think?" and then I'd shove me hand in their face...

I thought I'd share that wonderful story with you...it was a lot of laughs on my end.

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8299142)

everyone should be on Chiefs Planet.

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8301440)

What Dirk posted sounds a lot more like Saul's account than anyone else's. That never even mentions her being passed out at all.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8301449)

No shit. Frazod has basically turned that story into hootie drugging some random chick and raping her in an alley.

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8301440)

What Dirk posted sounds a lot more like Saul's account than anyone else's. That never even mentions her being passed out at all.

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 8301452)

I love how some people have to know exactly why the owner of this site and the moderators appointed make any decision. The mods should just do what they do and everyone can live with it or leave. It's all that simple. the uber threads about hootie and banhammers and causes for daface to quit, all just wasted ban-width....

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8301455)

Hootie goes to bar.

His ex's friend asks him if he wants to have sex with his ex.

He has sex with his ex.

Somewhere during the sex, the ex realizes that she's too drunk to make good decisions, so she asks Hootie to leave.

Hootie leaves.

Sounds like rape to me.

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 8301452)

I love how some people have to know exactly why the owner of this site and the moderators appointed make any decision. The mods should just do what they do and everyone can live with it or leave. It's all that simple. the uber threads about hootie and banhammers and causes for daface to quit, all just wasted ban-width....

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 8301457)

The story probably has evolved I just think it is interesting he decides to delete it just a few days ago.

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8301455)

Hootie goes to bar.

His ex's friend asks him if he wants to have sex with his ex.

He has sex with his ex.

Somewhere during the sex, the ex realizes that she's too drunk to make good decisions, so she asks Hootie to leave.

Hootie leaves.

Sounds like rape to me.

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 8301457)

The story probably has evolved I just think it is interesting he decides to delete it just a few days ago.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8301475)

Of course the story "evolved."

Dude doesn't think that ****ing a girl too drunk to consent is wrong. He's gone out of his way to rationalize it, and finally decided to delete the post two years after the fact.

Really odd timing on that, BTW.

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8301456)

Heh. Even the posts of mine you found of mine never said anything remotely like that. What he actually did and admitted to was bad enough.

Your lies are falling flat, whiteknight. Try harder.

Perhaps you could accuse me of incontinence - after all, I did shit my diapers when I was a baby. LMAO