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DeezNutz 02-05-2009 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461410)
Why is Sanchez worth the number 3 pick? You guys keep coming at me, yet you have yet to explain picking Sanchez at 3.

He's got the clapp.

consistency
leadership
athleticism
arm
poise

The Franchise 02-05-2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461419)
Arakpo or Johnson. I'm not the GM so I dont know how exactly the trades would play out. But still I would call a team in the 12-18 range and see if there are any willing to trade. Im not acting like it's easy to trade, just that we should pursue it.

Why is Sanchez worth the 3rd pick?

Orakpo or Johnson? You bitch about Sanchez not being consistent and you want these two DEs at the #3 position? ROFLROFLROFL

And trading down to the 12-18 range? You do realize that it would take a teams entire draft to move up to the 3 spot from there?

:rolleyes: Good job with the request though.

Chieftain58 02-05-2009 04:28 PM

With Cassel Getting the Franchise tag(and Pioli probably gonna give away our first pick for him.. God I hope not).. I hope to hell we take a QB with the first pick to get that dumbass Idea out of trading for him over with.

DaneMcCloud 02-05-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461433)
Dane McCloud, why Sanchez at 3?

I'm sorry, I don't speak Spanish.

Or reerun.

Brock 02-05-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461421)
Weak qb class.

Man this Sanchez bullshit has been stuffed so far up you guys asses that you are starting to believe the bullshit that comes out of your mouths.

You're calling Orakpo a legit number three, but everybody else is full of shit. ROFL

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-05-2009 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461410)
Why is Sanchez worth the number 3 pick? You guys keep coming at me, yet you have yet to explain picking Sanchez at 3.

I thought we handled this about about 15 posts ago? Never mind.

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OnTheWarpath15 02-05-2009 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5461452)
I'm sorry, I don't speak <s>Spanish</s> ****tard.

FYP.

-King- 02-05-2009 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5461437)
He's got the clapp.

consistency
leadership
athleticism
arm
poise

Consistency. He's started only one season. He's either a fluke or the real thing, you dont know for sure. Leadership maybe. Yes he has the talent, but still, his one year thing is just outstanding to me. To think that people would want to draft him 3rd despite only seeing him one year is amazing.

-King- 02-05-2009 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5461453)
You're calling Orakpo a legit number three, but everybody else is full of shit. ROFL

No, but he would address a need at 3 more than Sanchez. Both are reaches, so in the case of reaches, you look for need and we need a DE more than we need a QB. WE HAD THE LOWEST NUMBER OF SACKS IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL PEOPLE!!!!

rad 02-05-2009 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5461403)
So name a DE that is worthy of the #3 pick.

And if we should trade down.....then lets hear your awesome trade scenarios that are realistic.

Aw man, I was hoping for an "Eagles" angle here.....

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-05-2009 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5461452)
I'm sorry, I don't speak Spanish.

Or reerun.

LMAO:LOL:

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5461453)
You're calling Orakpo a legit number three, but everybody else is full of shit. ROFL

:doh!:LMAO:LOL:

DaneMcCloud 02-05-2009 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461463)
Consistency. He's started only one season. He's either a fluke or the real thing, you dont know for sure. Leadership maybe. Yes he has the talent, but still, his one year thing is just outstanding to me. To think that people would want to draft him 3rd despite only seeing him one year is amazing.

How could he not be the real thing? 34 TD's 10 INT's. Number one ranked high school recruit. Accurate, athletic, mobile, played in a Pro-Style offense.

What MORE could you want? For him to stay at USC for another year risk injury?

What kind of nonsense is that?

-King- 02-05-2009 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5461442)
Orakpo or Johnson? You bitch about Sanchez not being consistent and you want these two DEs at the #3 position? ROFLROFLROFL

And trading down to the 12-18 range? You do realize that it would take a teams entire draft to move up to the 3 spot from there?

:rolleyes: Good job with the request though.

I'm not going to pretend to be a GM. Teams dont have to stick to the draft chart. But oh well. But to say Sanchez deserves the #3 pick is ludicrous. Like I said before, I won't be mad if he's picked, but I hope the Chiefs can somehow find a good solution to it.

DeezNutz 02-05-2009 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461463)
Consistency. He's started only one season. He's either a fluke or the real thing, you dont know for sure. Leadership maybe. Yes he has the talent, but still, his one year thing is just outstanding to me. To think that people would want to draft him 3rd despite only seeing him one year is amazing.

The underlined obviates all other concerns. The supreme trump card.

It's the equivalent of a man pulling the "you've licked my balls" card.

Her: "You're such a worthless sack of ****ing..."

Man (interrupting): "You've licked my balls."

Argument over.

He has the talent. End of story. That's why he justifies the selection.

The Franchise 02-05-2009 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461468)
No, but he would address a need at 3 more than Sanchez. Both are reaches, so in the case of reaches, you look for need and we need a DE more than we need a QB. WE HAD THE LOWEST NUMBER OF SACKS IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL PEOPLE!!!!

The Arm Chair GM's mantra.

DRAFT FOR NEED!

DaneMcCloud 02-05-2009 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461474)
I'm not going to pretend to be a GM.

Whew!

You had all FOOLED!

-King- 02-05-2009 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5461471)
How could he not be the real thing? 34 TD's 10 INT's. Number one ranked high school recruit. Accurate, athletic, mobile, played in a Pro-Style offense.

What MORE could you want? For him to stay at USC for another year and possibly be injured. What kind of nonsense is that?

Um, JD booty had 29 TDs and 9 picks out of his first full season. Leinart had 33 TDs and 6 picks his first full season. Both are the real things huh?

-King- 02-05-2009 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5461480)
Whew!

You had all FOOLED!

Thanks :)

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-05-2009 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5461476)
The underlined obviates all other concerns. The supreme trump card.

It's the equivalent of a man pulling the "you've licked my balls" card.

Her: "You're such a worthless sack of ****ing..."

Man (interrupting): "You've licked my balls."

Argument over.

He has the talent. End of story. That's why he justifies the selection.

ROFL

DaneMcCloud 02-05-2009 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461481)
Um, JD booty had 29 TDs and 9 picks out of his first full season. Leinart had 33 TDs and 6 picks his first full season. Both are the real things huh?

Leinart, yes.

Booty? It's hard to say, isn't it?

Sanchez? MAJOR talent, MAJOR potential.

So much talent and potential that you'd be a FOOL to pass on him.

Got it?

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-05-2009 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5461490)
Leinart, yes.

Booty? It's hard to say, isn't it?

Sanchez? MAJOR talent, MAJOR potential.

So much talent and potential that you'd be a FOOL to pass on him.

Got it?

Sadly, I'm going to speculate "no". :cuss:

OnTheWarpath15 02-05-2009 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5461495)
Sadly, I'm going to speculate "no". :cuss:

Pretty fair assumption.

-King- 02-05-2009 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5461490)
Leinart, yes.

Booty? It's hard to say, isn't it?

Sanchez? MAJOR talent, MAJOR potential.

So much talent and potential that you'd be a FOOL to pass on him.

Got it?

Why?

Leinart is a back up. A top 10 pick being a backup his 2nd year should not happen.

ChiefsCountry 02-05-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461527)
Why?

Leinart is a back up. A top 10 pick being a backup his 2nd year should not happen.

Leinart was drafted by the previous head coach to fit that coaches offensive style, new coach comes in with a different system. He doesnt fit it. How hard is that to understand?

OnTheWarpath15 02-05-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461527)
Why?

Leinart is a back up. A top 10 pick being a backup his 2nd year should not happen.

It's not like he's sitting behind Tyler Thigpen, you ****stick.

He's playing behind a future HOFer, who happens to run the system that Whisenhunt installed AFTER Leinart was drafted better. Leinart isn't suited to run this system, he's a WCO QB.

Feel free to blatantly ignore this information, just like you have the other 10 times it's been mentioned in the past hour.

DaneMcCloud 02-05-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461527)
Why?

Leinart is a back up. A top 10 pick being a backup his 2nd year should not happen.

:spock:

-King- 02-05-2009 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5461552)
It's not like he's sitting behind Tyler Thigpen, you ****stick.

He's playing behind a future HOFer, who happens to run the system that Whisenhunt installed AFTER Leinart was drafted better. Leinart isn't suited to run this system, he's a WCO QB.

Feel free to blatantly ignore this information, just like you have the other 10 times it's been mentioned in the past hour.

Why are you making excuses? So you're saying Leinart is a guy who cant learn in 2 years. He couldnt learn the offense from the bench and atleast play well? And why cant he play in that system? He has the arm strength. And it's not even like its the Rodgers/Favre scenario. Leinart was actually given a chance to start. He showed he couldn't do it. His first year in that same offense he is destined for (WC) the glory offense of his, he had 12 picks 11 TDs. Why I thought he would light up the west coast offense. Why wasnt he lighting it up then?

DaneMcCloud 02-05-2009 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461584)
Why are you making excuses? So you're saying Leinart is a guy who cant learn in 2 years. He couldnt learn the offense from the bench and atleast play well? And why cant he play in that system? He has the arm strength. And it's not even like its the Rodgers/Favre scenario. Leinart was actually given a chance to start. He showed he couldn't do it. His first year in that same offense he is destined for (WC) the glory offense of his, he had 12 picks 11 TDs. Why I thought he would light up the west coast offense. Why wasnt he lighting it up then?

What the **** is your problem, Dude?

Are you just bashing USC QB's in general or are you just a ****ing moron of epic proportions?

Inquiring minds would like to know.

Either way, you're a dipshit.

OnTheWarpath15 02-05-2009 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461584)
Why are you making excuses? So you're saying Leinart is a guy who cant learn in 2 years. He couldnt learn the offense from the bench and atleast play well? And why cant he play in that system? He has the arm strength. And it's not even like its the Rodgers/Favre scenario. Leinart was actually given a chance to start. He showed he couldn't do it. His first year in that same offense he is destined for (WC) the glory offense of his, he had 12 picks 11 TDs. Why I thought he would light up the west coast offense. Why wasnt he lighting it up then?

Dear God.

I don't think you could make anymore false assumptions about my post if you tried.

You obviously have no intention of talking football, reading and comprehending other people's posts or using what little common sense you were given.

So I'm done with your game. Enjoy looking like a reerun, that might be the one thing in life you've mastered.

-King- 02-05-2009 05:14 PM

Huh? I dont get it. You guys said Leinart was a pro in the WC offense. Then when I post his stats in the WC offense, you say it's bullshit.

And Dane, I'm not really bashing anyone, just saying that the last few USC offensive draftees havent been that great.

DaneMcCloud 02-05-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5461602)
Dear God.

I don't think you could make anymore false assumptions about my post if you tried.

You obviously have no intention of talking football, reading and comprehending other people's posts or using what little common sense you were given.

So I'm done with your game. Enjoy looking like a reerun, that might be the one thing in life you've mastered.

This.

KcKingTard doesn't warrant my time.

-King- 02-05-2009 05:22 PM

Sorry for offending you guys. Especially Dane. On the Warpath, atleast you posted why you'd like Sanchez at 3. Dane is just nuthugging you guys and cosigning what you guys say. He probably didnt watch ONE USC game last year.

ChiefsCountry 02-05-2009 05:22 PM

So you bring up his rookie stats and he is suppose to light it up his first year? That is one of the rarest things ever is to light it up as a rookie QB in the NFL.

DaneMcCloud 02-05-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461642)
Sorry for offending you guys. Especially Dane. On the Warpath, atleast you posted why you'd like Sanchez at 3. Dane is just nuthugging you guys and cosigning what you guys say. He probably didnt watch ONE USC game last year.

Dude, just stop, okay?

In case you hadn't noticed, I LIVE in Los Angeles. USC is on in PRIME TIME nearly every weekend. A few of my friends are MAJOR USC boosters.

So take a chill pill and try to learn from the people posting here, okay?

-King- 02-05-2009 05:26 PM

I haven't learned anything from you. I think that he's not worth the 3rd pick. Calm down. Atleast other people tried to present facts, you didnt. You just cosigned other posts for the most parts.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-05-2009 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461642)
Sorry for offending you guys. Especially Dane. On the Warpath, atleast you posted why you'd like Sanchez at 3. Dane is just nuthugging you guys and cosigning what you guys say. He probably didnt watch ONE USC game last year.

Just stop. Just ****ing stop. Just because Dane or ANY of us get tired having this same ****ing conversation every week with another n00b, does NOT mean we are riding someones arguments, or that we haven't watched Sanchez play.

It's you. All you. Some of us have patience, some of us don't.

-King- 02-05-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5461647)
So you bring up his rookie stats and he is suppose to light it up his first year? That is one of the rarest things ever is to light it up as a rookie QB in the NFL.

What about his 2nd and 3rd? :doh!:

And I thought you guys are saying Sanchez would be an immediate upgrade? So it would take a couple years for him to light it up? He cant be our Matt Ryan or Flacco?

ChiefsCountry 02-05-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5461664)
Just stop. Just ****ing stop. Just because Dane or ANY of us get tired having this same ****ing conversation every week with another n00b, does NOT mean we are riding someones arguments, or that we haven't watched Sanchez play.

It's you. All you. Some of us have patience, some of us don't.

Hell we convinced you. :D

-King- 02-05-2009 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5461664)
Just stop. Just ****ing stop. Just because Dane or ANY of us get tired having this same ****ing conversation every week with another n00b, does NOT mean we are riding someones arguments, or that we haven't watched Sanchez play.

It's you. All you. Some of us have patience, some of us don't.

Ok, then if you're tired of having the same conversation...then dont click on the thread. As simple as that.

DaneMcCloud 02-05-2009 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461673)
Ok, then if you're tired of having the same conversation...then dont click on the thread. As simple as that.

And wouldn't make a damn bit of difference because apparently, you enjoy talking to yourself.

Have at it, KingTard.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-05-2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5461671)
Hell we convinced you. :D

Hey, keep on keeping on!

Perhaps you have the stamina to keep going after the 4th or 5th time explaining this shit to same party; I don't.:doh!:

-King- 02-05-2009 05:31 PM

Im not anti-sanchez, Im just saying that if he isnt worth the 3rd pick and 70+ mil right NOW. I'd be more convinced if he had started more in college. That said, if Pioli thought he was worthy, I'd have no problem.

-King- 02-05-2009 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5461676)
And wouldn't make a damn bit of difference because apparently, you enjoy talking to yourself.

Have at it, KingTard.

How am I talking to myself. Im talking to you and unless you're too stupid to realize it, you're replying.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-05-2009 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461679)
Im not anti-sanchez, Im just saying that if he isnt worth the 3rd pick and 70+ mil right NOW. I'd be more convinced if he had started more in college. That said, if Pioli thought he was worthy, I'd have no problem.

Well I'm glad it only took us 100+posts to reach this spectacular moment of consent.

**** me...

ChiefsCountry 02-05-2009 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461668)
What about his 2nd and 3rd? :doh!:

And I thought you guys are saying Sanchez would be an immediate upgrade? So it would take a couple years for him to light it up? He cant be our Matt Ryan or Flacco?

They switched freaking offenses that didnt fit his style. He is a short range passer in the WCO who doesnt have the arm for Arizona's offense. Not to mention he wasnt Wisenhut's pick so he doesnt give a rats ass about him.

Now to Sanchez, no I dont expect what Ryan or Flacco did this year. Chiefs are going to suck balls next year. The Ravens were not a shitty team, their problem was McNair went down and they went down. The year before they went 13-3. Ryan is a special case, but if you look at the history of the NFC South - the loser team bounces back the next season. I fully expect a shitty first year out of Sanchez, probably wont even see the field till the middle of the season. But in years 2 and beyond the improvement is there. The Chiefs arent building for 2009, they are building for muliptle Super Bowl runs from 2011 and beyond.

DaneMcCloud 02-05-2009 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461683)
How am I talking to myself. Im talking to you and unless you're too stupid to realize it, you're replying.

If you want to know how I feel about Sanchez in detail (without me having to repeat it in each and every thread), do a search.

-King- 02-05-2009 05:45 PM

Who would start for the team if Sanchez doesnt start until mid season?

-King- 02-05-2009 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5461695)
If you want to know how I feel about Sanchez in detail (without me having to repeat it in each and every thread), do a search.

Nah. Thanks though. :D

DaneMcCloud 02-05-2009 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461726)
Nah. Thanks though. :D

Then you owe me an apology for accusing me of just "riding coattails" in this thread.

-King- 02-05-2009 05:47 PM

Nah, thanks though. Seriously, if I had seen you posting more evidence, I would have credited you. But only thing I remember of you is the


SERIOUSLY...CANT..BREATH...

stuff.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-05-2009 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461726)
Nah. I like neg rep. :D

FYP.

DaneMcCloud 02-05-2009 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461737)
Nah, thanks though. Seriously, if I had seen you posting more evidence, I would have credited you. But only thing I remember of you is the


SERIOUSLY...CANT..BREATH...

stuff.

That's because...

Well, it should be self-explanatory.

The Franchise 02-05-2009 05:55 PM

God these ****ing n00bs are getting out of control.

-King- 02-05-2009 05:55 PM

Well, oh well, our views dont matter any way. We can keep discussing this all day and night and never know till April.

-King- 02-05-2009 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5461759)
God these ****ing n00bs are getting out of control.

Sorry to hurt your feelings LMAO! Why are you so mad? If you felt I was making a stupid point, you should have exited the thread. I know you would love getting a Dirty Sanchez, but I wouldnt. Sorry for that.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-05-2009 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5461759)
God these ****ing n00bs are getting out of control.

Time for a Rep-Down.

CanadaKC 02-05-2009 06:58 PM

Cassel and Curry...how does that sound Dane and Brock?:D

DaneMcCloud 02-05-2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadaKC (Post 5461938)
Cassel and Curry...how does that sound Dane and Brock?:D

Like this:

:Lin:

the Talking Can 02-05-2009 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadaKC (Post 5461938)
Cassel and Curry...how does that sound Dane and Brock?:D

like being raped by an alpaca....

ChiefsCountry 02-05-2009 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadaKC (Post 5461938)
Cassel and Curry...how does that sound Dane and Brock?:D

Sounds like something Carl Peterson would do.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-05-2009 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5462015)
Sounds like something Carl Peterson would do.

WINNER!ROFL

chiefzilla1501 02-05-2009 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5461647)
So you bring up his rookie stats and he is suppose to light it up his first year? That is one of the rarest things ever is to light it up as a rookie QB in the NFL.

I can agree with that, but this is also exactly why I don't understand why there are so many people so convinced that Cassell or Thigpen are not the answer.

I can understand not wanting to bank your future on them--I have been on board that the Chiefs need to bring in a QB to compete. I just can't get over how many fans are outright convinced that these guys have reached their peak after their first 16 starts as a pro.

SAUTO 02-05-2009 08:01 PM

[QUOTE=chiefzilla1501;5462091]I can agree with that, but this is also exactly why I don't understand why there are so many people so convinced that Cassell or Thigpen are not the answer.

I can understand not wanting to bank your future on them--I have been on board that the Chiefs need to bring in a QB to compete. I just can't get over how many fans are outright convinced that these guys have reached their peak after their first 16 starts as a pro.[/QUOTE]

mind-bottling isnt it

chiefzilla1501 02-05-2009 08:09 PM

Yup. We hear a lot of talk about how Cassell benefitted off of a great starting cast, but will never explain why Leinart couldn't do the same with Fitzgerald and Boldin or you will never hear people attribute Carson Palmer's success to having Chad Johnson and TJ Houshmandzadeh to throw to. Or how about Big Ben in his rookie season having a younger Hines Ward and Plaxico Burress to throw to?

And now we hear people saying we can't judge Leinart's career just yet, even though so many have already written the book on Thigpen and Cassell already.

It just fascinates me that an exception can be made for one and not the other. My take is that these are all young QBs and they all have upside. But as of right now, Thigpen and Cassell are a step ahead of Leinart. That's true for anyone who can judge a player by more than just draft status.

Manila-Chief 02-05-2009 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadaKC (Post 5461938)
Cassel and Curry...how does that sound Dane and Brock?:D

And people bag on Sanchez coz he only started 1 year in college ... yet, Cassel has not started any in college and only one year in the pros. ... go figure!!!

What's all this ... "he would be a reach at that spot" ... Tom Brady was selected in the 6th. round. Had he been taken at #1 ... there is a bunch of you who would have said that's a reach ... should have waited to the 7th. round. If the personnel department determines a guy is worthy ... who cares what the talking heads have to say.

-King- 02-05-2009 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 5462108)
Yup. We hear a lot of talk about how Cassell benefitted off of a great starting cast, but will never explain why Leinart couldn't do the same with Fitzgerald and Boldin or you will never hear people attribute Carson Palmer's success to having Chad Johnson and TJ Houshmandzadeh to throw to. Or how about Big Ben in his rookie season having a younger Hines Ward and Plaxico Burress to throw to?

And now we hear people saying we can't judge Leinart's career just yet, even though so many have already written the book on Thigpen and Cassell already.

It just fascinates me that an exception can be made for one and not the other. My take is that these are all young QBs and they all have upside. But as of right now, Thigpen and Cassell are a step ahead of Leinart. That's true for anyone who can judge a player by more than just draft status.

True.

-King- 02-05-2009 08:31 PM

LMFAO! I didnt know you could get negative rep just for stating your opinion. Why are you guys acting like such bitches. Acting like WPI mods. I understand your fascination with getting a dirty sanchez, but DAMN!
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Why are so many Chiefs... 02-05-2009 06:03 PM pestilenceaf23 Go back to WPI
Why are so many Chiefs... 02-05-2009 05:51 PM Darth CarlSatan Improve or leave.
Why are so many Chiefs... 02-05-2009 05:08 PM ChiefsCountry You just dont get it
Why are so many Chiefs... 02-05-2009 03:05 PM Crush Wrong

Mecca 02-05-2009 09:52 PM

this turned rather mind numbing...

By the way if you want to bag on SC players in the NFL then turn around and want to draft a Texas player, I'm going to die laughing at you..if there was one school I'd tell you to avoid it's Texas.

Every single year no matter who it is, there will be a portion of this fan base that won't think they are worth the pick.

Plus if you guys look around at other Chiefs forums, none of them want a QB, they all want shit like Crabtree or Curry and in polls Thigpen leads in the QB they want to start at about a 95% clip, it's laughable but true.

That is what we are dealing with.

DaneMcCloud 02-05-2009 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5462166)
LMFAO! I didnt know you could get negative rep just for stating your opinion. Why are you guys acting like such bitches. Acting like WPI mods. I understand your fascination with getting a dirty sanchez, but DAMN!

Dude, a little piece of friendly advice: Don't complain about negative rep.

It only gets worse from there.

DaneMcCloud 02-05-2009 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5462342)
this turned rather mind numbing...

I think this is going to be the theme of Chiefsplanet until after the draft.

bevis369 02-05-2009 09:54 PM

There is not a qb that is worth a 3rd pick n the 1st round this year is why..... Makes too much sense... Like smoking meth or crack...

Skip Towne 02-05-2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5462166)
LMFAO! I didnt know you could get negative rep just for stating your opinion. Why are you guys acting like such bitches. Acting like WPI mods. I understand your fascination with getting a dirty sanchez, but DAMN!

You have a bad attitude. Neg rep.

Mecca 02-05-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5460393)
The dipshit is strong with this one.

Whoever posted that, especially the remarks about Zac Robinson and Jevan Snead being better than Sanchez should be shot in the head so they can't reproduce, that kind of stupid is dangerous.

Mecca 02-05-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5462166)
LMFAO! I didnt know you could get negative rep just for stating your opinion. Why are you guys acting like such bitches. Acting like WPI mods. I understand your fascination with getting a dirty sanchez, but DAMN!

You're lucky it's not me...I'd suspend you for having a dumb illogical not well thought out take like this...and if you did it again I'd ban you.

I have no patience for the dumbass side of this fan base.

milkman 02-05-2009 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanka (Post 5459486)
I'm and idiot leave me alone. But I'd still rather have McCoy over Sanchez or Stafford.

1. McCoy
2. Stafford
3. Sanchez

You simply don't get it.

Mecca 02-05-2009 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5462373)
You simply don't get it.

Big 12 spread monkey...alot of people on this forum haven't figured out that it's probably best to avoid Big 12 offensive players especially QB's since every god damn team in the conference runs the spread.

Just for the sake of trying to educate him...Mark Sanchez as a 1 year starter is more NFL ready than any QB in the Big 12 that played for 4 years...know why? He can actually properly drop back and read the defense from under center, he's doing now what NFL teams will ask him to do where the Big 12 QB's arent, got it?

And don't give me stats the spread inflates stats especially completely % look no further than Colt McCoy to prove that.

DeezNutz 02-05-2009 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5461671)
Hell we convinced you. :D

Was DCS originally part of the anti-QB crew? No...? Can't be...

DeezNutz 02-05-2009 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5462379)
Big 12 spread monkey...alot of people on this forum haven't figured out that it's probably best to avoid Big 12 offensive players especially QB's since every god damn team in the conference runs the spread.

Just for the sake of trying to educate him...Mark Sanchez as a 1 year starter is more NFL ready than any QB in the Big 12 that played for 4 years...know why? He can actually properly drop back and read the defense from under center, he's doing now what NFL teams will ask him to do where the Big 12 QB's arent, got it?

And don't give me stats the spread inflates stats especially completely % look no further than Colt McCoy to prove that.

I think it should be Big 12 spread eagle, not monkey.

Reerun_KC 02-05-2009 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 5462091)
I can agree with that, but this is also exactly why I don't understand why there are so many people so convinced that Cassell or Thigpen are not the answer.

I can understand not wanting to bank your future on them--I have been on board that the Chiefs need to bring in a QB to compete. I just can't get over how many fans are outright convinced that these guys have reached their peak after their first 16 starts as a pro.

If we draft a QB at #3 spot? Will you promise to leave this board forever?

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-05-2009 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5462386)
Was DCS originally part of the anti-QB crew? No...? Can't be...

I was a "give Thiggy a line / build the defense" acolyte.


For shame...:sulk:


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