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Are you high or something? You shouldn't embarass yourself with such uniformed takes in a public forum. |
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I hear ya... Firing Shanahan, keeping his personnel guy, and then hiring a younger version of him... that doesn't make too much sense to me. I could have seen if we hired Spagnuolo... But whatever. I think there's more to it behind the scenes between Shanahan and Bowlen than they're letting on out in the open. |
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Manning was also a joke till he got his. Elway should have been benched after 15 yrs of no ring right? At that point he was a joke and ownership should have given up on him. He sucked. He had 15 yrs and couldnt get it done. Why would you let that loser keep playing? |
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Marty's been coaching in the NFL since 1975. He's been a head coach in the NFL for a full twenty years. Hey, if you want to give him another go 'round, thinking he'll finally find lightning in a bottle at 65 years of age, and somehow overcome his own inherent martyocrity, well, more power to ya. |
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'86 and '87. Both losses in the AFC Championship Game. I'd consider that a sniff. The KC run is obvious, so I'm not listing that. |
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Come on you know what I'm saying here! OK mr. apples to apples...
Dungy went 11 yrs losing in the playoffs till he won. Coughlin went 11 yrs without winning a sb. Shula went 22 yrs after their 73 championship and never won again. Marty has a higher winning pct. than all of them. |
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To the contrary he would have gone to the SB with the Browns if Byner hadnt fumbled on the goal line. NOT Martys fault. Would that justify all the other wins after? Shula didnt win another SB in 22 yrs till he retired. |
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Drew Souchier on channel 9 (NBC) news here in Denver also reported the same news that they received from their NBC affiliates in KC..
Surprised ESPN hasn't heard of this.. |
Shanahan needs a fat D coordinator
Out with Hermin and the German in with Shanny and the Fanny |
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So what's the update in this thread?
Is Shanny a realistic possibility? |
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What hatred we would have in the West............I love it
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Also what about the "Rooney Rule"? Pioli can't hire anyone without the job being officially open. Then he has to interview a minority candidate. Herm doesn't count. |
This IS truly the best scenario that could happen with the Chiefs. The best GM + the best coach available. Shanahan's teams were dominant even before he was GM. Without those worries, he'll have us in the playoffs in 2 years. And for all you "gotta groom a QBOTF" guys, he's your man.
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Shanny has been in the cards of nearly a week or more. That is fact. It has been proven he has talked with the Chiefs about the job. While the National media ran around lost with their heads stuck in the ground making up stories about Todd Haley, the Chiefs have only been worry about Shanahan and possibly Cowher. Wouldn't surprise me they have already dealt with their Rooney Rule candidate also.
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(which was probably what he wanted anyway) VOTE NO ON PROPOSITION RAT! |
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Adam Schefter Rooney Rule still in play for Chiefs <!-- p class="post-info-author">By Adam Schefter</p --> Posted: Adam Schefter | Adam Schefter | Tags: Kansas City Chiefs, Herm Edwards, Scott Pioli It hasn’t come up, and it might not. But if it should, here’s the answer to a question that some have posed since the Kansas City Chiefs hired general manager Scott Pioli on Wednesday. Pioli’s meetings with Chiefs coach Herm Edwards don’t meet the requirements of the Rooney Rule, which mandates that NFL teams interview at least one minority head-coaching candidate. The interpretation of the Rooney Rule is that teams can’t meet with an incumbent minority for the purpose of creating a vacancy and claim that they have followed the rule. The rule isn’t followed unless a legitimate minority candidate is interviewed. It’s permissible for Pioli to fire Edwards, but it isn’t permissible for him to hire, say, Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz without first interviewing at least one minority head-coaching candidate. Pioli said Wednesday that he plans to meet with Edwards before making any decisions about whom the Chiefs’ head coach will be. If Pioli retains Edwards, this point is moot. But if Pioli moves in another direction, he and the Chiefs still must comply with the Rooney Rule. |
I just don't think the Rooney Rule is going to be a problem. All it requires is an interview, and who says the interview hasn't already occurred. The real question is whether there is mutual interest between Pioli, and Shanahan. If there is, then this will get done. And frankly, I don't put a lot of stock into what Jack Harry says, especially the time frame.
Edit: Here's an easy scenario in which the Rooney Rule becomes irrelevant. Suppose you agree to terms with Mike Shanahan as HC and Romeo Crennel as DC. To satisfy the Rooney Rule, you bring in Crennel, and interview him first, and notify the NFL you interview him for HC, when in reality you didn't, he knows it, and is fine with it. |
My view of Pioli's view.
1. BB has the HIGHEST regard for Shanahan. The two of them have obvious, tremendous mutual respect. I would not be surprised if BB considers Shanahan the best HC in the NFL (other than himself, if he's that immodest). That would mean Pioli would want Shanahan. 2. I would think Pioli would be VERY CONCERNED about Shanahan's ability to work FOR someone else. He has run his own show in Denver for a long time. Can he agree to give up control over player acquisitions. Shanahan's own history is what works best in Pioli's favor here, but I imagine before Shanahan gets hired they will have VERY LONG talks about this subject. 3. Pioli no doubt wants the same "mind meld" on players and team building that he had with BB. I'm dubious that he can get that with Shanahan, who is older and been successful, etc., and is more likely to be inflexible. We'll see. I think Shanahan is a tremendous coach, though I've hated that rat faced jerk for ages now. Shanahan the Coach's worst enemy has been Shanahan the GM. With a good GM... |
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That's why I question whether this will happen, along with how to structure Shanahan's salary so he won't effectively be working for free. |
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I just find it amusing that the one thing you hear when it comes to Scott Piloi is that he is tight lipped and he is very thorough in his processes.
Yet people (including media members *cough* Jack Harry) fall for water cooler talk. The Chiefs will have to go through some sort of interviewing process if/when Herm is fired. Even if they go into the process with a front runner when it begins all bets are off. |
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and, honestly, the Rat has made a crap ton of terrible personnel decisions in the last 5-6 years, especially in FA...and in the playoffs, he has been destroyed and humiliated worse than the Chiefs.... i'm worried the guy is just out of good ideas....the only thing that excites me about him is that he will not be afraid to draft a QB....i'd almost say that his hire meant we're gunning for a QB with the #3 pick i'll warm up to it, but I think Pioli is really going to have to enforce limits with him: "You coach. Period" |
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Maybe he'll hire gruden as a coordinator that way I can go ahead and take the next 5 yrs. worth of Sundays off.
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I've always watched. I just don't know wether or not I'm going to if they do hire this pos. Maybe, maybe not. |
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You are un-American, Sir. :rolleyes: |
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Ah yes, latest news on the wire:
NO LEGS TO SHANAHAN RUMOR. Thank you, and good...****ing...night! |
Please don't spread misinformation, DCS.
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ROFLROFLROFLROFL I'm sorry, for a moment there my vision blurred and I thought you said, "Athan, please don't spread misinformation". |
Don't make me hit you, boy.
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