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wazu 04-15-2025 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 18030222)
Hard pass if it's for an OT. We have two decent tackles and two projects already, I'm not interested in moving up to take a guy who's likely going to have zero impact year one. This team might have the most complete roster it's had going into the draft in quite some time, and I want to build on that for next year, not trade a bunch of assets for a guy who's not going to play until 2026. I get that it's an important position, but I want a day one playmaker on the DL or on offense in the first. We need someone next to CJ and Mahomes needs at least one more dynamic weapon.

If they go this route, they better be 100% sure they have a 10+ year LT in their sights, because you damn well can't miss if you do this.
You can't miss at LT again, period. That shit needs to be over. Nobody is ever going to be "100%" about an LT that is drafted in the back half of the first round or later.

Womble 04-15-2025 12:21 PM
Which piece of shit we drafting then?

Wisconsin_Chief 04-15-2025 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 18030229)
Nobody is ever going to be "100%" about an LT that is drafted in the back half of the first round or later.
Which is exactly why I'm not interested in trading assets to get one at that point. Trust me, nobody wants a cornerstone LT more than me, but it's simply not happening in this draft unless they really go all out and move into the top 10. That's a different story if they think they can pull that off, or if someone slips into the teens and they make it happen. I'm just not interested in the Conerly/Simmons ideas unless one slips to 31. They are simply not worth moving a bunch of picks for, IMO.

TEX 04-15-2025 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 18030194)
I just wanna trade with the Bills. Their fans love that
:clap: ROFL

ForeverIowan 04-15-2025 03:29 PM
The more mocks I do it does seem apparent that top end talent drops off signicantly at pick 25 or so. If I had to guess Veach is all-in for Josh Simmons or Walter Nolen. If Josh Simmons medicals checked out and he is on the board in the early 20s you go freaking get him.

Bump 04-15-2025 03:46 PM
Unless the person reporting this has an excellent track record, I just take this with a grain of salt.

If a guy that Veach absolutely loves is there he'll try to trade up. He's already done it at least 3 times in the first round and each time has worked out great.

tyton75 04-15-2025 03:48 PM
I'd say its worth the move up and giving up our later 3rd for Josh Simmons or if someone like Banks should slide.

Although, I'm hoping its for a killer on defense that they feel the need to go get.

duncan_idaho 04-15-2025 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 18030463)
The more mocks I do it does seem apparent that top end talent drops off signicantly at pick 25 or so. If I had to guess Veach is all-in for Josh Simmons or Walter Nolen. If Josh Simmons medicals checked out and he is on the board in the early 20s you go freaking get him.
Welcome to the conversation.

We've discussed this many times already in this thread.

tl;dr

Josh Simmons is probably never going to be the same physically, because no one else with this injury EVER has, so no, you don't go freaking get him. You let a stupid franchise waste their 1st on him.

ForeverIowan 04-15-2025 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18030481)
Welcome to the conversation.

We've discussed this many times already in this thread.

tl;dr

Josh Simmons is probably never going to be the same physically, because no one else with this injury EVER has, so no, you don't go freaking get him. You let a stupid franchise waste their 1st on him.
I will trust the medical experts there. Not some dude on a message board. Im sure Veach and co have done their due dilligence.

TRR 04-15-2025 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 18030463)
The more mocks I do it does seem apparent that top end talent drops off signicantly at pick 25 or so. If I had to guess Veach is all-in for Josh Simmons or Walter Nolen. If Josh Simmons medicals checked out and he is on the board in the early 20s you go freaking get him.
Absolutely not. If Simmons falls to 31, it's a conversation depending on who else is there. His injury (you won't know until he gets on the field...an exam isn't going to tell you anything) + character/work ethic concerns screams to stay put, and let the board fall to you.

BossChief 04-15-2025 03:56 PM
Simmons was in for a workout recently, right?

Seems they either leaked info to bait someone else to move up for him because there was a red flag they aren’t comfortable with and want someone else to fall.

Or the writer is throwing shit at the wall.

No way in hell would the Chiefs or Vikings let that info leak, if it was genuine. 0% chance.

MahomesMagic 04-15-2025 04:12 PM
I think if we do it its a Tackle.

They tried to move up last year too and the SB...well, that is going to leave Veach in a spot where he does not want to keep plugging random guys there anymore.


Hopefully medicals on Simmons check out because I think he's a huge talent.

Stryker 04-15-2025 04:54 PM
Ok, I do believe this is click bait. Put me in the get Walter Nolen with our 1st pick if possible. I would rather take a chance later on in the draft to get Charles Grant OT from William and Mary. My gut has a bad feeling about Simmons. If Veach and company feel good about it then let it be. There is a good chance Walter Nolen might not be there even @ pick 24. Fingers crossed and we shall see how this draft plays out. :thumb:

duncan_idaho 04-15-2025 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 18030486)
I will trust the medical experts there. Not some dude on a message board. Im sure Veach and co have done their due dilligence.
If the Chiefs do draft him, we will all cross our fingers and hope that Simmons is literally the first NFL player ever to tear his patellar tendon and be the same player physically after that.

But the data is awful on this. Literally every NFL dude you can find who had this injury either (a) had it end their career or (b) made it back on the field but was never the same/as good as before.

Chris Meck 04-15-2025 06:17 PM
Unsubstantiated rumor from click bait artist. But by all means, have at it.


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