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DJ's left nut 03-27-2025 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 18011805)
Dak is Trent Green essentially. Same type player. Good QB, not great. Good guy can win some games but won't win big. Hard type to replace because he isn't bad enough to suck, but isn't good enough to be elite.

Trent Green was better.

Rainbarrel 03-27-2025 10:03 AM

Maybe with the Browns he can get his ota back

mr. tegu 03-27-2025 10:07 AM

Hilarious how much better off they would be if they just kept Baker.

BlackHelicopters 03-27-2025 10:08 AM

Browns going to Brown

ChiefsCountry 03-27-2025 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18011806)
Trent Green was better.

Same guy.
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Couch-Potato 03-27-2025 10:36 AM

This is odd, or maybe not so much, considering the Browns are the one team who reportedly like Sanders in the interview process. My guess is that he doesn’t feel the same love for the Browns, and obviously has ties to the Cowboys, so in that context I guess this is the best case scenario for him. DAL could also be influenced by Jeanty recently being projected to go ahead of their #12 pick.

Gary Cooper 03-27-2025 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 18011813)
Hilarious how much better off they would be if they just kept Baker.

Maybe. Or maybe Baker wouldn't have the success in Cleveland that he had in Tampa Bay.

Even Mahomes wouldn't win any Super Bowls playing in Chicago or Cleveland had they drafted him.

BWillie 03-27-2025 10:51 AM

Smart if the Cowboys can get it done

Megatron96 03-27-2025 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 18011881)
Maybe. Or maybe Baker wouldn't have the success in Cleveland that he had in Tampa Bay.

Even Mahomes wouldn't win any Super Bowls playing in Chicago or Cleveland had they drafted him.




We'll never really know, of course. However, there's no debating that while baker was QB1 for CLE he put up better stats and won more playoff games than any Browns QB since he left, and it's not close.

And he took CLE to the playoffs and beat their arch-rival PIT with the 22nd ranked defense, without Stefanski (Kevin was at home watching the game in his basement with COVID). And nearly beat KC a week later if not for a great play by Sorensen to separate R. Higgins from the ball at the GL.

At the least, Baker would've been more consistent/stable at the position and would've saved them multiple 1st rd draft picks and a lot of that $230M contract they gave to Watson. Which CLE could've spent on more weapons, their OL, etc. So i'd bet that keeping Baker would've made them a better team. maybe good enough to sneak into the SB.

Gary Cooper 03-27-2025 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 18011924)
We'll never really know, of course. However, there's no debating that while baker was QB1 for CLE he put up better stats and won more playoff games than any Browns QB since he left, and it's not close.

And he took CLE to the playoffs and beat their arch-rival PIT with the 22nd ranked defense, without Stefanski (Kevin was at home watching the game in his basement with COVID). And nearly beat KC a week later if not for a great play by Sorensen to separate R. Higgins from the ball at the GL.

At the least, Baker would've been more consistent/stable at the position and would've saved them multiple 1st rd draft picks and a lot of that $230M contract they gave to Watson. Which CLE could've spent on more weapons, their OL, etc. So i'd bet that keeping Baker would've made them a better team. maybe good enough to sneak into the SB.

He is definitely better than Cleveland's other QBs. However, he's had success in Tampa partly because they've surrounded him with better players and partly because their division is a joke. It's a guaranteed playoff spot for Tampa the last few seasons. The AFC North is tough.

Also, Baker's attitude may not be a good match for a franchise that's owned by idiots. I doubt he would want to stay there long-term.

mr. tegu 03-27-2025 12:23 PM

Rumor: Browns discussing trade for Dak Prescott
 
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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 18011881)
Maybe. Or maybe Baker wouldn't have the success in Cleveland that he had in Tampa Bay.

Even Mahomes wouldn't win any Super Bowls playing in Chicago or Cleveland had they drafted him.


I don’t think it’s remotely disputable that the Browns would have been better at the QB position (and team) if they just kept Baker. It’s not like it’s a high bar. But even with that, for all his limitations Baker plays hard and is just a solid professional QB on and off the field. He was decent on the field as it was for the Browns. He needed a little maturity to grow up so perhaps that was helped by moving around, but his four years there were better than anything they’ve had since.

Megatron96 03-27-2025 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 18011982)
I don’t think it’s remotely disputable that the Browns would have been better at the QB position (and team) if they just kept Baker. It’s not like it’s a high bar. But even with that, for all his limitations Baker plays hard and is just a solid professional QB on and off the field. He was decent on the field as it was for the Browns. He needed a little maturity to grow up so perhaps that was helped by moving around, but his four years there were better than anything they’ve had since.



I think that Baker needed to mature to become what he’s grown into in TB. I think he needed to be humbled a bit to make that happen, like Favre back in the day. So in that one respect CLE did him a favor by trading him. Without that, it might’ve taken Baker several more years before reaching the same maturity level he’s at now.

Couch-Potato 03-27-2025 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters (Post 18011815)
Browns going to Brown

lol this ^

Bump 03-27-2025 07:52 PM

This would be the most Browns thing ever done

Imon Yourside 03-27-2025 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 18011637)
LOL if true.

Meatpeeker trying to pull a fast one


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