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Red Dawg 03-10-2025 05:32 PM

Dang. DT at 31 it is.

DJ's left nut 03-10-2025 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17995173)
These guys always seem to get overpaid.

I was guessing 2/$20 or 3/$36. I thought that was probably on the high side.

I wasn’t close.

Yeah, I thought 3/$36 was the high end and accounted for possible market insanity. Felt like 3/$24 was the realistic high side.

Suddenly even Danna's deal doesn't look that bad anymore.

Red Dawg 03-10-2025 05:34 PM

Enjoy losing.

DJ's left nut 03-10-2025 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17995101)
The 49ers are saying the same about Moore..

This is why great teams don’t lean heavily on Free Agency.

Felt like 2/$20 was a given as FA approached for Moore.

So we overpaid the 'baseline' by about 50%.

This feels like damn near twice what an accepted baseline would've been for Wharton, does it not?

FAs are always a bit overpaid even when they aren't. But if we're talking degrees, this is a massive one isn't it?

TwistedChief 03-10-2025 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17995218)
Felt like 2/$20 was a given as FA approached for Moore.

So we overpaid the 'baseline' by about 50%.

This feels like damn near twice what an accepted baseline would've been for Wharton, does it not?

FAs are always a bit overpaid even when they aren't. But if we're talking degrees, this is a massive one isn't it?

There was an espn article about the most "overrated" FAs and Wharton was one of five based on his gaudy sack production this last season but pedestrian pass-rush-win-rate.

It was crazy to see that he was somehow an "overrated" free agent.

Now it makes more sense.

ThaVirus 03-10-2025 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17995218)
Felt like 2/$20 was a given as FA approached for Moore.

So we overpaid the 'baseline' by about 50%.

This feels like damn near twice what an accepted baseline would've been for Wharton, does it not?

FAs are always a bit overpaid even when they aren't. But if we're talking degrees, this is a massive one isn't it?

I don’t think you can argue against it. I know it’s the nature of FA and exploding salary cap, but his APY is now higher than Vita Vea, Cam Hayward, and Ed Oliver lol

It’s hard to find a legit comp for him being so undersized but I guess the closest I can see is Odighizuwa. He just got an extension and he’s sitting at $20m. On the surface, Wharton had more sacks (6.5 vs 4.5), more TFLs (7 vs 5), and fewer QB hits (11 vs 23). He’s been solid against the run despite his size.

I don’t have access to more advanced pass rushing statistics, but if Wharton proves to be the same guy he was this past year for us consistently (and without a Chris Jones next to him), this should end up be in an OK signing.

Sassy Squatch 03-10-2025 05:53 PM

Derrick Brown isn't completely useless either. Should be a decent tandem on the IDL.

ChiliConCarnage 03-10-2025 05:55 PM

Wow. That is great for him! That's rare life changing money for a UDFA type

Coach 03-10-2025 06:06 PM

Happy for him to get paid, but man, I wouldn't fork that much out for two reasons (among others):

1. How much of his play benefitted from having Jones?

and

2. His pass-rush win rate of 7% doesn't match the sack production.

BWillie 03-10-2025 06:14 PM

I knew Wharton was solid but I had no idea he was this good.

ROYC75 03-10-2025 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 17995266)
Happy for him to get paid, but man, I wouldn't fork that much out for two reasons (among others):

1. How much of his play benefitted from having Jones?

and

2. His pass-rush win rate of 7% doesn't match the sack production.

THIS! ALL IF IT!

Panther fans will be disappointed!

We may end up going back to grandpa for 1 more year! ( Pennell )

Buehler445 03-10-2025 06:58 PM

Good on him. That’s incredible money. Do you have any idea how pissed I’d be if the Chiefs did this LOL?

Scooter LaCanforno 03-10-2025 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17995080)
https://x.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1899226557022929069

Twitter is ****ing up so can't embed.

3 years 54 million


Congrats to Wharton. He's already a hero in Carolina. He caught that kid falling out of the stands this year.

Pitt Gorilla 03-10-2025 07:41 PM

Ugh, that stinks. Good for him, but we'll REALLY miss the guy.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-10-2025 08:08 PM

Wow that's more than double as to what I thought he'd get. Awesome for him and we'll get a solid comp pick out of it.


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