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DJ's left nut 02-19-2025 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17973504)
You know who I like in the 1st if we don't go for a LT on the DL is Tyleik Williams from Ohio State. I like him more than Grant. I feel he's got better burst and better ability to stack and shed. He's going to shut down the run and he can get after the QB one-on-one.

I wouldn't hate a top-2 rounds of Williams and Jared Ivey (DE Ole Miss). I think that duo could absolutely transform our DL into a beast.

I like the A&M kid -- Scourton?

Seems likely that he comes off the board in the late teens, early 20s. And he might be best served as a 3-tech in an odd front. But he could fit us pretty nicely as an inside/outside sort of option. If we can handle DE in the draft, he could slide inside pretty easily. If we get a DT option, he can be one of those heavy DEs that Spags seems to like.

You wonder if the statistical decline after transferring might push him down a bit.

DJ's left nut 02-19-2025 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17973539)
Man, if you could pair a stud DT with Jones, that sure would be killer.

I'd get a bit of a kick out of something like Scourton and Walker in the first 3 rounds.

And the board could fall that way fairly easily for us.

Wanna supercharge that DL, that's a LOT of talent being infused. Though at a point, that secondary depth has got to be addressed. It could very well be overkill to throw that much draft capital at DL.

kccrow 02-19-2025 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17973545)
I like the A&M kid -- Scourton?

Seems likely that he comes off the board in the late teens, early 20s. And he might be best served as a 3-tech in an odd front. But he could fit us pretty nicely as an inside/outside sort of option. If we can handle DE in the draft, he could slide inside pretty easily. If we get a DT option, he can be one of those heavy DEs that Spags seems to like.

You wonder if the statistical decline after transferring might push him down a bit.

I like him too. I put him at #19 to TB in my 1st mock. I still see him as a top-20 1st rounder. If he goes to the Combine at 265 instead of 280+ and lights it up, he could be one of the top pass rushers selected. Even then he was constant disruption and a problem in the backfield. I'd love to have him though, man.

duncan_idaho 02-19-2025 02:19 PM

I love the idea of getting a DT and DE in this draft. I really like the Ivey kid at Ole Miss, and Walter Nolen is also a great option.

Deone Walker's upside also intrigues me. For a guy that big to be that quick and explosive is pretty special. Kentucky used him in some wild ways for a dude who is 6-5/330+.

RunKC 02-19-2025 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17973545)
I like the A&M kid -- Scourton?

Seems likely that he comes off the board in the late teens, early 20s. And he might be best served as a 3-tech in an odd front. But he could fit us pretty nicely as an inside/outside sort of option. If we can handle DE in the draft, he could slide inside pretty easily. If we get a DT option, he can be one of those heavy DEs that Spags seems to like.

You wonder if the statistical decline after transferring might push him down a bit.

Yeah DL is loaded with quality Spags guys. Derrick Harmon is really enticing for me. 6’5” 310 lbs and is really strong and athletic. 17+% pass rush win rate.

Would be a terror next to Chris Jones

Couch-Potato 02-21-2025 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17973504)
You know who I like in the 1st if we don't go for a LT on the DL is Tyleik Williams from Ohio State. I like him more than Grant. I feel he's got better burst and better ability to stack and shed. He's going to shut down the run and he can get after the QB one-on-one.

I wouldn't hate a top-2 rounds of Williams and Jared Ivey (DE Ole Miss). I think that duo could absolutely transform our DL into a beast.

I don’t have an opinion on Williams, but I question how badly we need run stoppers. We were top 10 against the run this season, shut down the #1 running back in the league in the Super Bowl. In fact, I’d question how badly we need a DT at all. Jones was #1 in the league at pressuring the QB from the inside and Wharton took a major step forward.

I’d prefer a DE to replace Danna, save’s us cap room and gives us a quality 4th guy on the DL. I have no faith in FAU. Maybe that guy is Omenihu, I hope so, but hard to tell after he sat all season with an injury. I’m partial to another guy like Omenihu, someone who is versatile enough to play both DT and DE (Ex: Jordan Burch) but also a sucker for pass rush specialists (EX: Mike Green).

kccrow 02-21-2025 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17975657)
I don’t have an opinion on Williams, but I question how badly we need run stoppers. We were top 10 against the run this season, shut down the #1 running back in the league in the Super Bowl. In fact, I’d question how badly we need a DT at all. Jones was #1 in the league at pressuring the QB from the inside and Wharton took a major step forward.

I’d prefer a DE to replace Danna, save’s us cap room and gives us a quality 4th guy on the DL. I have no faith in FAU. Maybe that guy is Omenihu, I hope so, but hard to tell after he sat all season with an injury. I’m partial to another guy like Omenihu, someone who is versatile enough to play both DT and DE (Ex: Jordan Burch) but also a sucker for pass rush specialists (EX: Mike Green).

The only DT on the payroll at the moment is Jones. So, Veach has to go shopping somewhere. We don't "need" a high pick there but it might be time to invest there as we haven't taken a guy even on day 2 since Saunders and Nnadi in back-to-back 3rds in 2018/2019.

Couch-Potato 02-21-2025 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17975821)
The only DT on the payroll at the moment is Jones. So, Veach has to go shopping somewhere. We don't "need" a high pick there but it might be time to invest there as we haven't taken a guy even on day 2 since Saunders and Nnadi in back-to-back 3rds in 2018/2019.

Whelp, that’s a good answer lol

That was a loooong time ago.

SAGA45 02-22-2025 04:36 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid scheming up YAC for TE Harold Fannin Jr. would rupture the space-time continuum. Too powerful. <a href="https://t.co/b3lHlx4WE5">pic.twitter.com/b3lHlx4WE5</a></p>&mdash; Adam Best (@Arrowhead_Adam) <a href="https://twitter.com/Arrowhead_Adam/status/1892733882757230859?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Couch-Potato 02-22-2025 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 17976440)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid scheming up YAC for TE Harold Fannin Jr. would rupture the space-time continuum. Too powerful. <a href="https://t.co/b3lHlx4WE5">pic.twitter.com/b3lHlx4WE5</a></p>&mdash; Adam Best (@Arrowhead_Adam) <a href="https://twitter.com/Arrowhead_Adam/status/1892733882757230859?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Seems to be slipping a bit in the projections, starting to get more and more interested in him.

Chris Meck 02-23-2025 10:21 AM

I'd love to get a big NT type guy to pair with Jonesy as a complement in this draft. I don't a 3 tech type is the best move.

I don't want another heavy footed DE type. We sorely lack a win at the snap type. But that's just my opinion.

A great TE is a good idea, but I'd also really like an explosive RB-and I think I'd like that MORE.

But in all reality, you just have to stack good football players. What we really need is no misses in the first 3 rounds this year.

Coochie liquor 02-23-2025 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 17976440)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid scheming up YAC for TE Harold Fannin Jr. would rupture the space-time continuum. Too powerful. <a href="https://t.co/b3lHlx4WE5">pic.twitter.com/b3lHlx4WE5</a></p>&mdash; Adam Best (@Arrowhead_Adam) <a href="https://twitter.com/Arrowhead_Adam/status/1892733882757230859?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wow, very impressive. No clue where he’s projected to be drafted.

Bowser 02-23-2025 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17973985)
Yeah DL is loaded with quality Spags guys. Derrick Harmon is really enticing for me. 6’5” 310 lbs and is really strong and athletic. 17+% pass rush win rate.

Would be a terror next to Chris Jones

A guy like that next to Jones would make life easier on Danna and FAU. Probably save us some bucks if Omenihu decided he wanted to get paid, as well.

Chris Meck 02-23-2025 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 17977168)
A guy like that next to Jones would make life easier on Danna and FAU. Probably save us some bucks if Omenihu decided he wanted to get paid, as well.

I think Omenihu is gone.

Bowser 02-23-2025 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17977183)
I think Omenihu is gone.

Yeah, I do too. Not because I want him gone, I just feel he's going to be offered a few million more a year from a D-Line desperate team than we're willing to match.

Shame he got hurt. Would have been fun to watch him evolve in this defense with all the time he had here available to him.


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