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Chris Meck 02-10-2025 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by milkshock (Post 17962114)
Are we allowed to talk about the refs?

No.

NO.

Losers bitch about the refs.

We lost a Super Bowl, but we're not losers.

Red Dawg 02-10-2025 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by milkshock (Post 17962114)
Are we allowed to talk about the refs?

Media drove the two personal folks but their DL killed our OL. That was the game.

scho63 02-10-2025 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17961440)
D-Hop is done. He's going to be 33. He's not a good fit with this offense anyway.

Brown would be a great #3 WR depending on his contract demands.

Bolton needs to be back. They have nobody to replace him. Reid is hard to replace also but he'll probably get a bigger contract elsewhere.

Excellent take. :clap:

scho63 02-10-2025 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by milkshock (Post 17962114)
Are we allowed to talk about the refs?

They played no part in our loss.

tmax63 02-10-2025 07:48 AM

When 5 or 6 guys can't block 4 you're screwed. And when PMII gets sacked and hit early and often he gets happy feet. And when coaches are too stubborn to ditch the gameplan and make changes to the blocking scheme it leads to a 24-0 halftime score. It looked like a close game until they imploded in the 2nd qtr and waiting to make changes until the half was stupid. The D played well but when you play a games worth of snaps in the 1st half they are gonna get worn down.

tooge 02-10-2025 08:16 AM

I'm at ease with the loss. I'd have rather had a win, but it happens. This will kill much of the bs refs narrative that has been around the past few seasons. There was no NFL conspiracy to get the Chiefs a 3 peat. A couple of crappy calls extended drives for the Iggles, the O line, particularly the tackles, got their shit pushed in, Andy decided not to run the ball at all in the first half. This is what you get.

DenverChief 02-10-2025 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 17962209)
I'm at ease with the loss. I'd have rather had a win, but it happens. This will kill much of the bs refs narrative that has been around the past few seasons. There was no NFL conspiracy to get the Chiefs a 3 peat. A couple of crappy calls extended drives for the Iggles, the O line, particularly the tackles, got their shit pushed in, Andy decided not to run the ball at all in the first half. This is what you get.

I still don't understand why we didn't shift Humphries in at half and move Thuney back to Guard. Down 24-0 you really have nothing to lose.

DJJasonp 02-10-2025 10:22 AM

Need WRs that can get separation. Period.

Especially with a shitty OL.

And devise a new running scheme....as our current one sucks.

Ecto-I 02-10-2025 10:38 AM

This is a much more tolerable thread than the others where 1 bad game = fire everyone, clean house, and trade all of our picks for a LT.

FACT: We need to improve our O-line.

Also FACT: We have a lot of FAs especially on defense.

Like it or not, it's not a simple solution that can be solved with free agency. We need some of our draft picks on O-line to pan out ie Kingsley, Norzad, and Hansen. Between our two holes at LT and RG, we need probably one very good FA and address the other either with what we have or in the draft.

On Defense, Reid, Bolton, Omenihu, and Wharton are key FAs. I think we're covered at safety with Hicks in the wings, but we probably need to bring Bolton back and shore up the D-line in free agency along with 1 high draft pick in the first 2 rounds.

At WR I think we can bring back either Dhop or Hollywood on another 1 year deal bc neither had amazing production this year. That gives us a solid top 3 with Worthy and Rice.

At TE, I think Kelce comes back. He's fine. Still a top 5 TE. Hopefully Wiley can take a big step this year (a la Kelce in his second year).

FloridaMan88 02-10-2025 10:44 AM

The Rams were much more competitive and played Philly closer than the Chiefs, despite Stafford getting sacked 5 times.

Two big differences are the Rams being able to run the ball… Kyren Williams with 100+ yards rushing… and more production from their WR’s/TE’s.

GordonGekko 02-10-2025 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 17962471)
I still don't understand why we didn't shift Humphries in at half and move Thuney back to Guard. Down 24-0 you really have nothing to lose.

Yeah considering that potential combo is what they thought we'd be when they traded for Humphries, I think Andy in his old age is resistant to change and likes to "stick it out" which can harm or be a good thing depends on the situation. Obviously it was rational to think they could have made that switch and see what happens, the left side of the line was getting stomped, the whole line was really

GordonGekko 02-10-2025 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17962552)
The Rams were much more competitive and played Philly closer than the Chiefs, despite Stafford getting sacked 5 times.

Two big differences are the Rams being able to run the ball… Kyren Williams with 100+ yards rushing… and more production from their WR’s/TE’s.

I think this is really telling about the gameplan that is out there in the NFL for teams to follow to neutralize Mahomes, Mahomes needs to reinvent himself along with getting an updated OL

irafreak 02-10-2025 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 17961907)
To be clear - this was not an offensive Eagles beat down as much as it was a Defensive dressing down. Had the Chiefs been able to move the ball this would have been a much closer game. But you can’t keep giving the ball to the other team and not expect them to score at some point.

The Eagles possessed the ball 14 times (including the pick 6) for 37 minutes The Chiefs possessed the ball 13 times for 23 minutes.

The pick six to make it 17-0 and the following interception just before half that lead to a TD to make it 24-0 was the back breakers. Neither of were the Defense fault.

And as lopsided as the top ended up being...it was worse because the top actually leveled out after the game was out if reach. We only had the ball for like 5 or 6 minutes in the first half. Nobody wins like that.

trndobrd 02-10-2025 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 17962672)
I think this is really telling about the gameplan that is out there in the NFL for teams to follow to neutralize Mahomes, Mahomes needs to reinvent himself along with getting an updated OL

The front four getting constant pressure isn’t so much a game plan as a capability. Only the Eagles have a front 4 that can consistently get that kind of pressure without blitzes.

Once the Chiefs abandoned the run (apparently during the offense install last week) the Eagles D line could sell out on pressure….and that was it.

el borracho 02-10-2025 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 17961464)
I'll wait for the snap count but I didn't even see him in the game until the second half. It looked to be primarily Hollywood, Worthy and Juju with a sprinkling of Watson.

By my memory Hopkins dropped a sure 1st down just before halftime. And Kelce dropped two 1st downs.

Not sure any of it would have mattered as the poor performance of the O Line pretty well doomed any chance the Chiefs had. But just like the Tampa Bay Super Bowl the receivers failed even when Patrick did his part.


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