Many of us told you suckers Thuney would eventually get exposed, and it happened tonight... playing someone out of position like that is always doomed eventually

Joe got worked tonight, and it didn't need to be that way

Thuney had some bad plays, but this game was a collective pants shitting by the entire OL. Creed included.

Ironically, Jawaan Taylor might have been our most reliable pass protector out there.

The story that came out from OBJ later on was that the Chiefs guaranteed money offer wasn't very good. Apparently wasn't too much different than the guaranteed money he ended up with in Cincinnati. And you're right, nothing we can do about it at this point. All hindsight.

He gave up the same number of pressures in the first half… four… as Jawaan Taylor.

At least Thuney has the built-in excuse of playing out of position.

What’s Taylor’s excuse?

This franchise is never going to have a “shitty season” as long as Mahomes plays for them/remains healthy so I don’t understand why this is ever brought up as a realistic option.

And that’s besides the point that wasting a year of Mahomes’ prime is horrific management

I mean, it's certainly possible to have a lot of close games go the wrong way. Bengals had that problem this season even with Burrow playing at a very high level.

Chiefs won a ton of close games the last couple years. If you're winning 80% of your coin tosses, what happens if suddenly your win rate on the coin tosses is more like 50%? Struggle to make Playoffs, or just miss the Playoffs outright.

Bengals choked basically every close game this year while also having a horrific defense and they still nearly made it.

It’s not impossible that Mahomes will ever miss the playoffs but it’s exceedingly unlikely in this expanded format.

Amen. We need a LT desperately, but we also cannot field another DL that brings no pressure without blitzes.

No idea why we seem uninterested in a speed rusher, but I really don't care if they're just a situational one only used on obvious passing downs. We need to able to threaten the QB QUICKLY and with a 4-man DL.

Campbell could be a top 5 pick- it would nearly impossible to move from 31 to around 5

They did it to Tyreek.

For significant draft capital it would have to be McDuffie

I would bite your hands off at swapping McDuffie for a premier LT but i don't we'd get what we need from trading him.

IMO it's too difficult to draft a LT, i'd prefer we trade the #31 and our TEN pick for an existing NFL talent. We've shown we can find players in FA to fill smaller holes like Tranquil, Omenihu.

then draft R2, R3 hit on 2 of RB, TE, DE

I said this about Alt, and people assured me that Veach knew what he was doing.

Then I got flamed because I was pissed at Veach for failing to trade for a legitimate LT. Signing a guy who hadn't played in a year due to injury was not securing the LT.

I don't actually like saying I told you so, because it means something negative happened, but somewhere on this board I stated that it was probably going to cost us a playoff game or the Super Bowl, and all the people who told me how stupid I was for criticizing Veach would suddenly feel differently.

A good LT and an All-Pro LG may not have changed the outcome, but a competent veteran LT and an All-Pro LG are better than a backup scrub LG and a LG playing LT against that defense, or a Super Bowl caliber defense.

i'd trade a first rounder for a LT...can't put a price on that position.

Nobody considers #31 as a first rounder.

Nobody.

Dangling #31 for a premier left tackle?

Nobody's taking that trade.