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Mecca 11-19-2024 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17814917)
I think Veach, Andy, and Clark are tired as **** of seeing the offense go the wrong way.

I expect a prototypical overcorrection from Veach this offseason even if it costs the defense in some capacity. I can see it getting wild in terms of the spending/trades.

They already did that, Brown and Rice both got hurt and there hasn't been a LT chance unless you wanted to trade like 3 1's for Joe Alt.

Sassy Squatch 11-19-2024 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17814935)
Best of luck in free agency, Trey!

Thing that sucks for him is he's almost assuredly ending up on one of the perennial bottom feeding squads that are willing to massively overpay to get talent. Although he's already gotten the rings so the last thing to secure is the bag.

Mecca 11-19-2024 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17814937)
Thing that sucks for him is he's almost assuredly ending up on one of the perennial bottom feeding squads that are willing to massively overpay to get talent. Although he's already gotten the rings so the last thing to secure is the bag.

Robert Hunt v2 dude got the bag as a guard but got it in Carolina.

Chiefspants 11-19-2024 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17814929)
Well....what else you wanna do? They've spent picks, money etc.

At this point they need to treat LT like they did receiver. Keep spending picks from Rounds 1-3 until you finally hit on one.

Hell, if they could go back in time, I wonder if they match that 3/24 given to Wylie and try Taylor at LT…

O.city 11-19-2024 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17814939)
At this point they need to treat LT like they did receiver. Keep spending picks from Rounds 1-3 until you finally hit on one.

Hell, if they could go back in time, I wonder if they match that 3/24 given to Wylie and try Taylor at LT…

Yeah, just keep swinging at it I guess. It sucks but it's kinda one of those things you get when you win like we do.

Mecca 11-19-2024 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17814939)
At this point they need to treat LT like they did receiver. Keep spending picks from Rounds 1-3 until you finally hit on one.

Hell, if they could go back in time, I wonder if they match that 3/24 given to Wylie and try Taylor at LT…

How have they not done that already?

24 round 2 Kingley Suamataia
23 round 3 Wanya Morris
22 none
21 none-orlando brown trade
20 round 3 Lucas Niang

That is a 5 year stretch where in 4 of those years a top 3 round draft pick was invested in OT.

Chiefspants 11-19-2024 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17814949)
How have they not done that already?

24 round 2 Kingley Suamataia
23 round 3 Wanya Morris
22 none
21 none-orlando brown trade
20 round 3 Lucas Niang

That is a 5 year stretch where in 4 of those years a top 3 round draft pick was invested in OT.

Right, I’m saying they need to keep doing this.

(And just maybe, look in the mirror at how they’re scouting and coaching that position).

O.city 11-19-2024 01:19 PM

I don't think the LT spot is as big of an issue as it seems if the rest of the OL was playing well.

Seems like everyyear we go thru them playing bad and then we get a "we're simplifying things" PC and it goes better.

Mecca 11-19-2024 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17814955)
Right, I’m saying they need to keep doing this.

(And just maybe, look in the mirror at how they’re scouting and coaching that position).

Morris is probably a guard...the issue is they need a LT and finding one outside of the first 10-15 picks is extremely hard.

TinyEvel 11-19-2024 01:22 PM

Brutal. I couldn't watch past 2 minutes.

crispystl 11-19-2024 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17814860)
IMMEDIATELY the first thing I noticed.

Sweet jesus, Trey Smith got WORKED. I mean just mauled. You don't see Chris Jones routinely handle a guy as frequently as Oliver kicked the shit out of Smith.

But yeah, lets keep blaming the OTs and Matt Nagy when the guy we have folks saying we should sign at a 'discount' of only $18 million in AAV is getting treated like a street free agent.

Man - that's just gross.

Yup, and there is no way in hell I'm paying Trey 20 million plus after this year. NO thanks. We could get as much out Allegretti as Trey has given us lately.

crispystl 11-19-2024 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17814889)
Since Mahomes wants to move around anyway just call more plays where he's designed to roll out to the right.

If I remember right that's what he did on the missed deep ball to Worthy.

I think we need to run some misdirection and play action boots off that. Pat can throw on the run so well and you'd keep the defensive line a hell of a lot more honest too. Sprinkle in a little of the old Shannahan scheme.

RunKC 11-19-2024 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17814912)
At least Bolton won't require a market resetting contract like Smith allegedly wants. Although I agree that we'd be better served letting him walk as well unless it's significantly cheaper than I'm expecting.

Transition tag seems ideal for Bolton. Let him get offers from other team so we know the market. We can match that and keep him or let him walk

KCUnited 11-19-2024 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17814916)
Good lord, anybody see Carson Steele completely miss a DE -- I think it was Rousseau??

I mean, Steele ran right by him and joined Taylor in a double team. Like Rousseau was a ghost.

I'm sure Pat's able to shake that play off and not let it hurry up his reads at all

Dante84 11-19-2024 02:06 PM

Looking ahead… genuine ask so please don’t shred me…

Kingsley’s biggest issue seems (to me) to be kicking out correctly and getting beat outside or inside on the double move when he over-compensates late to the outside.

If he fails to develop that aspect of his game, could we consider slotting him in at RG should we let Trey walk in FA, or LG if Thuney is a cap casualty? Does Kingsley project well at OG?


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