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dlphg9 10-21-2024 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17756515)
Give him it. As far as I'm concerned, like LeBron in his prime, he should get it every season.

The stats aren't going to be there this year, but that is for reasons largely out of his control (i.e. having the worst group of WRs in the league after virtually all of his weapons got hurt). He remains the best player in football when it matters.

Hitting open receivers is definitely something he can control.

comochiefsfan 10-21-2024 11:11 AM

None.

Can a coach win the MVP? Steve Spagnuolo would get my vote if so.

KC_Connection 10-21-2024 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17756527)
Hitting open receivers is definitely something he can control.

It isn't quite that simple. It's evident that he has no rhythm with them and/or they are still doing things he doesn't expect.

There's a huge difference between what he has with Kelce (and what he was starting to form with Rice) and what he has with the others that comprise this team's receiver room.

PAChiefsGuy 10-21-2024 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17756515)
Give him it. As far as I'm concerned, like LeBron in his prime, he should get it every season.

The stats aren't going to be there this year, but that is for reasons largely out of his control (i.e. having the worst group of WRs in the league after virtually all of his weapons got hurt). He remains the best player in football when it matters.

Says the guy who constantly criticizes Brady for his stats during an era when it was much harder to pass.

Lol

philfree 10-21-2024 11:19 AM

How much sense does Mahomes make for MVP?
 
Don't care about the MVP race at this point. All that matters is wins and post season wins so let someone else puff out their MVP chest as we hoist the Lombardi!

mr. tegu 10-21-2024 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17756550)
It isn't quite that simple. It's evident that he has no rhythm with them and/or they are still doing things he doesn't expect.

There's a huge difference between what he has with Kelce (and what he was starting to form with Rice) and what he has with the others that comprise this team's receiver room.


Worthy was too open. Clearly his fault Mahomes missed him. One day maybe you will accept that it’s okay to blame Mahomes for bad plays that are obviously his fault.

Megatron96 10-21-2024 11:25 AM

To this point, none. His numbers look like Danny Dimes'.


The MVP of this team is currently Spags, and it's not close at all.

KC_Connection 10-21-2024 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 17756560)
Says the guy who constantly criticizes Brady for his stats during an era when it was much harder to pass.

Lol

Peyton Manning was better than Brady during their respective primes but played on far worse defensive teams for most of his career. I trust you aren’t suggesting that Allen or Lamar are better than Mahomes?

KC_Connection 10-21-2024 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17756580)
Worthy was too open. Clearly his fault Mahomes missed him. One day maybe you will accept that it’s okay to blame Mahomes for bad plays that are obviously his fault.

80.4 QBR yesterday against one of the best defenses in the league. Everybody is gonna miss throws from time to time; that doesn’t mean he wasn’t very good against SF.

Megatron96 10-21-2024 11:44 AM

That wasn't one of the best defenses in the league. They're really banged up. No Greenlaw, Hufanga, Ward was dinged up from last week. I don't know their DL that well, but I remember reading that they were dealing with injuries up front, at LB and in the secondary.

Combined with all the injuries they had on offense, we didn't play the best version of SF at all. We played the JV version.

Gary Cooper 10-21-2024 11:59 AM

Even if he had 0 INTs, you're not winning MVP throwing 1 TD pass per game.

My guess is Goff or Lamar win the MVP this season. The former is playing for a dynamic offense and is a feelgood story. The latter is someone the league wants to push as an elite QB on Mahomes' level. Both are surrounded by offensive talent that allows them to compile big numbers.

Forgot about Josh Allen. He's up there also and hasn't won MVP before. Another guy the league is pushing as being on Mahomes' level.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-21-2024 12:09 PM

It's Goff at the moment

DRM08 10-21-2024 12:10 PM

He’s definitely not gonna win regular season MVP. But he’s playing better than traditional stats would suggest. Currently Tied for 10th in ESPN’s QBR metric.

DrunkBassGuitar 10-21-2024 12:11 PM

I wouldn't be butthurt about Goff getting it, he's been good for a while now. He hasn't won one and right now he's leading in like YPA and passing %. plus he kind of looks like ryan gosling which I am told the ladies like

DRM08 10-21-2024 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17756690)
It's Goff at the moment

Not sure about that. Goff is 16th in QBR. Looks like the first 3 games were not very good, with QBR grades ranging from 30/100 to 43/100. He’s been playing at a very high level the last 3 games, with QBR grades ranging from 71/100 to 94/100.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/game...779/jared-goff


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