Thanks. Guess we were Meccaed

So guilty until proven one or the other

You mean the OP who's 1 of the biggest ref conspiracy guys is dishonest? No way!

Smoke, no Fire here. Other, more important stuff will tip this game.

Though, I am leaning toward Toub is an old idiot who should be replaced by someone younger. Ried will not fire until the empire falls.

Sure.

Andy Reid knows more about football than all but a handful of people in history.

He'd still run out of runway in Philly and it was time for them to make a change.

Smart or not, Toub has done an AWFUL job this year and his response to this is to be defiant and intransigent. That's usually a pretty good sign that all parties would be better off elsewhere.

I mean, there's video evidence

They cut him because they figured they could bring him back on if Fortson or Hardman couldn't go.

They had known about the kamara case for months. Announcing a trial date wouldn't change anything

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There had to be other players to cut right?

I hadn't even heard about it until this week. Did the video just hit the public this week?

Really? What about his response could be characterized as such?

i swear to god if the guy taking lammons place blows coverage and we lose because of a kick return, you can ****ing fire VEACH

He absolutely said nothing even remotely close to that Mecca. He said "It happens, you know Veach had a plan, you know he had a plan, um you know he always had a plan you know he always has a plan he's a smart guy it just didn't work out I guess uh uh you know unfortunately for lammons you know because now he's not gonna be able to play so um it's just the way it goes uh you know obviously he was a good player for us and you know for three years did a lot for us and want to thank him for that I'm going to miss him you know no question but you know the future is still still good for him"

We get it Mecca you don't like him, but you don't need to post outright lies.

Wasn't Lammons 20 yards behind the Jaguars returner twice last week?

I saw the actual presser on NFL roku channel and thread headline and opening post are way off.

It was a dick move for the Bengals and it will catch up to them.