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Wallcrawler 12-08-2022 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16654047)
You think trading Chris Jones to draft an OT high in the 1st round is a win?

There are plenty of adequate lower round LT in the NFL, we don't need all pro we need adequate.

There are literally 2 or 3 Chris Jones level DL in the NFL.

Ideally we trade him to Buffalo or Cincinnatti so he can disappear in the playoffs for them.

Makes our road to the SB easier, and we save a metric ****ton of cash. Pat can sidearm sling off platform to avoid the dreaded Chris Jones batted ball at the line, and we'll use Noah Gray and Jody Fortson to block him into next season for Pacheco.

New World Order 12-08-2022 02:06 PM

Sign Yannick and pair him up with Jones.

That d-line is sick and vastly improves our defense.

Sign a veteran and proven RT

Give up some picks and move up and draft an LT.

This should be our offseason.

TwistedChief 12-08-2022 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16654036)
If we could get a first and a second for him I'd be 100% in.

Between the cap space and the need to draft an OT high I'm convinced.

There is where I'd be.

I just don't think anyone is giving up a 1 and a 2 for a soon-to-be 29yr old DT who wants to be paid approaching 30mm/yr.

irafreak 12-08-2022 02:21 PM

The over reaction to a defensive tackle not getting sacks...especially when he's double teamed constantly, is ridiculous. But I do wonder if our line would be better with two good ends instead.

O.city 12-08-2022 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16654054)
That doesn't change the fact that OT is a wayyyyyy more valuable position than DL

Nah.

It's up there, but

QB


OT=Pass Rusher

smithandrew051 12-08-2022 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16654069)
There is where I'd be.

I just don't think anyone is giving up a 1 and a 2 for a soon-to-be 29yr old DT who wants to be paid approaching 30mm/yr.

The only teams that would do it are teams with a rookie contract QB and on the cusp of a Super Bowl. A team that can overpay a bit to go all in.

saphojunkie 12-08-2022 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16654053)
Jones is our Defense. He is the only player on the DLine that any opposing team cares about.

He has the KC Chiefs by the short and curlies.

Something that can be fixed by drafting MORE young defensive players, not fewer.

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Originally Posted by irafreak (Post 16654082)
The over reaction to a defensive tackle not getting sacks...especially when he's double teamed constantly, is ridiculous. But I do wonder if our line would be better with two good ends instead.


This is the problem, though. If your whole defense is one player, and that player can be eliminated by a double team, then the solution is not to keep investing in that equation. It's not that Chris Jones sucks, it's that he can be taken out of the game.

Chris Jones is having his absolute best year as a pro. He's also pushing 30. That is 100%, Grade A prime trade bait.

Chief Roundup 12-08-2022 02:49 PM

Hmm, out of all the DTs that have been drafted in the last 7 years, which is a bunch, there is not one that is on the same level as Jones, and other than Donald 2 years prior to Jones being drafted there isn't one. Drafting more defensive linemen will not replace what Jones delivers.

Marcellus 12-08-2022 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16654087)
Nah.

It's up there, but

QB


OT=Pass Rusher

And guess who leads KC in sacks.

louie aguiar 12-08-2022 03:00 PM

No. No player is untouchable except for Mahomes. The chiefs should absolutely explore the possibility of a trade.

BryanBusby 12-08-2022 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16653983)
Kelce is untouchable as well in terms of the trade market. He is one of the more underpaid star players in the league. He is just as valuable as the big time receivers who are paid north of $25M per year. But the tight end label prevents him from being paid like those guys.

Debating Kelce being untouchable or not is an irrelevant question. He's always been 100% reasonable with his ask.

RunKC 12-08-2022 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16654063)
Sign Yannick and pair him up with Jones.

That d-line is sick and vastly improves our defense.

Sign a veteran and proven RT

Give up some picks and move up and draft an LT.

This should be our offseason.

I’d do this. Also sign a guy like Arden Key or Charles Omenihu to fill in why Turk is healing from his ACL.

Also sign a vet rusher again like Dunlap or Ingram to rotate

Bump 12-08-2022 04:35 PM

imagine wanting to trade our beast DT because he didn't get a sack against the bengals. There's a good chance we'll never find another defensive tackle that could do half of what Jones has done for the rest of our lives. Unless some team is willing to really over pay.

Eleazar 12-08-2022 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 16654259)
imagine wanting to trade our beast DT because he didn't get a sack against the bengals. There's a good chance we'll never find another defensive tackle that could do half of what Jones has done for the rest of our lives. Unless some team is willing to really over pay.

It's the fodder of the same reeruns who say "ballgame" in the first half and "just blow it up" after a loss.

These are the sort who don't think Jones is affecting the game unless he records a sack every week

HC_Chief 12-08-2022 05:44 PM

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Can we stop with the trade Chris Jones shit?
Yes. Yes we can. Never should have been mentioned in the first place. Shit, man. I do believe you'd get your ass kicked if you said some shit like that. /Lawrence the cool neighbor


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