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Bowser 11-12-2022 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 16597122)
He just never saw the B17, it was below his windscreen while he was turning and in his blond spot. Neither one saw the other.
You'd hope someone on the ground would radio in and alert the planes. Just a complete failure all the way around.

Bowser 11-12-2022 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 16597126)
makes me sick

dad was a b17 tailgunner

Those few birds are treasures
Mine was a top turret gunner.

Took my daughter to the Garmin show earlier this year and we toured the 17 the was static. It was a thrill for me to take her inside of it and look around, and it's sad that there is one less 17 flying. IIRC, Liberty Belle burned up on the ground a couple of years ago. These planes are becoming scarce.

Demonpenz 11-12-2022 09:32 PM
How many have we lost since the movie Memphis belle. Seems like there was 6 for that movie

Bump 11-12-2022 09:57 PM
that's terrible

Bowser 11-12-2022 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 16597282)
How many have we lost since the movie Memphis belle. Seems like there was 6 for that movie
Not sure of that answer, but there were eight that were still airworthy. Seven after today, obviously.

https://airplanes-online.com/b17-fly...g-aircraft.htm

Al Czervik 11-12-2022 10:10 PM
Thoughts and Prayers to all involved.
Terrible tragedy.

My FIL was a Tail gunner on a B17.....
He had some stories....But always talked about
how great those planes were.

Buehler445 11-13-2022 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by thebrad84 (Post 16596946)
Uhhh..you serious Clark? There's no way whoever was inside that B17 is still alive and it's extremely unlikely the one(s) in that smaller plane survived that impact as well. I feel terrible for the families of the deceased having to witness that first hand or video replay.
I said hopefully. But yeah. It looks bad. I don’t see any way a dude can survive that. But weird shit happens sometimes.

Up to now I hadn’t considered the possibility they could have been giving rides in the B17. That looked like a formation so hopefully not additional fatalities.

kevrunner 11-13-2022 04:33 AM
Officials would not say how many people were on board the planes, but Hank Coates, president of the company that put on the airshow, said one of the planes, a B-17 Flying Fortress bomber, typically has a crew of four to five people. The other, a P-63 Kingcobra fighter plane, has a single pilot. No paying customers were on the aircraft, said Coates, of Commemorative Air Force, which also owned the planes. Their aircraft are flown by highly trained volunteers, often retired pilots, he said.

RedinTexas 11-13-2022 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16597265)
You'd hope someone on the ground would radio in and alert the planes. Just a complete failure all the way around.
Alert them to what exactly? Communications are not instantaneous. They also draw your attention away from flying the aircraft.

Those aircraft were flying in proximity to one another because it was an airshow. The mistake was that one of the pilots did not fly his aircraft exactly when/where he was supposed to do. However, they were supposed to be near one another.

493rd 11-13-2022 08:47 AM
Wow, really terrible. RIP

Nickhead 11-13-2022 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by thebrad84 (Post 16596946)
Uhhh..you serious Clark? There's no way whoever was inside that B17 is still alive and it's extremely unlikely the one(s) in that smaller plane survived that impact as well. I feel terrible for the families of the deceased having to witness that first hand or video replay.
in some videos of the collision you can see what i can only assume is body matter splattering from the impact.

Kman34 11-13-2022 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 16597949)
in some videos of the collision you can see what i can only assume is body matter splattering from the impact.
JFC.. You can’t tell that from any video..

jd1020 11-13-2022 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by kevrunner (Post 16597589)
Officials would not say how many people were on board the planes, but Hank Coates, president of the company that put on the airshow, said one of the planes, a B-17 Flying Fortress bomber, typically has a crew of four to five people. The other, a P-63 Kingcobra fighter plane, has a single pilot. No paying customers were on the aircraft, said Coates, of Commemorative Air Force, which also owned the planes. Their aircraft are flown by highly trained volunteers, often retired pilots, he said.
They've confirmed 6 dead now. So I assume that means 5 people were in the bomber, unless someone on the ground got struck by some debris.

loochy 11-13-2022 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16598015)
They've confirmed 6 dead now. So I assume that means 5 people were in the bomber, unless someone on the ground got struck by some debris.
Local news here said no injuries to anyone on the ground

MIAdragon 11-13-2022 11:25 AM
So few of those left, tragic.


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