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Rausch 09-04-2022 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16444299)
Chiefs schedule is insane, so I agree that we may fall back a bit. Honestly, just get into the tournament and go from there.

Keep in mind that every year injuries happen to good teams and teams we thought would be good fall flat.

It also means some bad teams will actually be good this year but there really aren't many bad teams on this schedule so that's not much of a worry.

As long as we aren't the good team to come up short we're looking at 11-13 wins again this year...

threebag 09-04-2022 05:05 PM

Tell your mom we all said hi

Bl00dyBizkitz 09-04-2022 05:15 PM

Additional question

If the Chiefs offense starts to struggle, how long will it take for the entire fanbase to throw Bienemy under the bus? Because I have no doubt in my mind its going to happen.

Rausch 09-04-2022 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 16444314)
Additional question

If the Chiefs offense starts to struggle, how long will it take for the entire fanbase to throw Bienemy under the bus? Because I have no doubt in my mind its going to happen.

The offense has always had periods of struggling. Pat's first year starting was legendary but what happened last year happened with Smith at QB as well. Andy's teams get in these funks they have to work out of.

I think that would happen with or without Bienemy.

kccrow 09-04-2022 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by threebag (Post 16444305)
Tell your mom we all said hi

Sticking to things you know well, huh? I mean, don't strain your tiny little brain too hard.

Direckshun 09-04-2022 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 16444285)
I have never watched it. Maybe you can give me the notes from your notebook.

It was actually a clipboard, but I’ll let your hate for diligence stand.

Wilson8 09-04-2022 05:37 PM

Each NFL team will be committing everything they can to win against KC. It's not going to be easy.

From the September 11th, Arizona Cardinals to the January 8th, Los Vegas Raiders the games the NFL plays KC will be the most important contest of the year for the team opposing us. That is the problem with having the success that the Chiefs have had. Every team wants and needs to bring Kansas City down. Hell, the whole NFL wants the Chiefs to be beaten by the Chargers, the Raiders, the Bills, etc...

The Chiefs are a BETTER team than they were last year but what they have to have is a total buy in from each Chiefs player that each play is important and the Chiefs need them to perform. Unfortunately, KC in the past has developed a culture within SOME players where they would wait for Patrick Mahomes to ride in and save the day. It was why bust my butt. We will win this game. The few times that Patrick has been injured in the past two years, you see a renewed charge by KC players to win.

The Chiefs need to know that the NFL is after them and they better be ready for it. The Chiefs need that type of player effort because that's what other teams will be throwing at us.

srvy 09-04-2022 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16444326)
It was actually a clipboard, but I’ll let your hate for diligence stand.

I've diligently taken field notes for over 40 years as a land surveyor. But never had any reason to take notes in a profession I'm not qualified for.

My guess is Noone is paying you to take notes at a football camp. So you most likely looked like an idiot.

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scho63 09-04-2022 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16444122)
Counterpoint: they addressed their biggest problems and got younger, faster and more diverse on both sides of the ball.

This. :clap:

MarkDavis'Haircut 09-04-2022 06:53 PM

Congratulations, OP.

You discovered that podcasts use outlandish claims to drive up viewership. Credibility means nothing; it is about gaining attention. Folks claim to want solid commentary. They don't. They want optimistic outlooks and entertainment. They want hot takes.

Halfcan 09-04-2022 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 16444344)
I've diligently taken field notes for over 40 years as a land surveyor. But never had any reason to take notes in a profession I'm not qualified for.

My guess is Noone is paying you to take notes at a football camp. So you most likely looked like an idiot.

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LMAO

How else would we know that McDuffie sucks and the D line is held together with Scotch tape?

Halfcan 09-04-2022 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16444296)
I don't listen to any podcasts, so I'll take your word for it on the positivity as I'm sure it mimics this board.

I'm going to say it does look like this Chiefs team could be fighting for a playoff spot simply because of the strength of the schedule, including a strong division, coupled with a young secondary and weak defensive line.

The other contenders for spots, in my opinion, are:

Buffalo Bills
Cincinnati Bengals
Tennessee Titans
Los Angeles Chargers
Baltimore Ravens
Indianapolis Colts
New England Patriots
Miami Dolphins
Denver Broncos
Las Vegas Raiders

The saving grace here is that the Colts and Titans, despite an otherwise weak division, play the AFC West and the Patriots and Dolphins play the AFC North and NFC North where they'll hit the Bills, Bengals, Packers, and Vikings.

We all know that the Chiefs' offense is talented, and it will be so long as there is a passable offensive line and Patrick Mahomes under center. This offense though has a chance to be special in my opinion. The depth of talent at WR is far superior to anything Pat has had to date. It may not have the ultimate cheat code in Tyreek anymore, but I'm not going to pretend that JuJu isn't capable of a 1300-yard season and every other spot is better. The Chiefs also have more speed at RB than they've ever had with Pacheco and McKinnon, which could lead to some big plays out of the backfield.

But it's not the offense to worry about. Most specifically, it's the defense and that secondary.

Rashad Fenton has never been a full-time starter and in his season with his most action (2021), he gave up a relatively atrocious 68.5% completions. His saving grace was it wasn't for a great many yards. He was actually far worse in yards given up in 2020 on a still less than stellar 62.1%. So, we'll have to hope Fenton takes the next step because more snaps mean even more yards.

With Sneed in the slot, the next 3 CBs after Fenton are all rookies and a Chris Lammons, who hasn't taken meaningful snaps since his first year which was in Miami (not to mention his looming case with Alvin Kamara in LV). Sure, McDuffie is a first-round pick but he's going to have his struggles and the rest of the rookies even more so. You hope McDuffie is as good as Paulson Adebo was in NO as a rookie, which was pretty good for a rookie. So far, Fenton has been a bit knicked up during the pre-season.

If Fenton and Sneed don't stay healthy for the full tilt, this secondary is in trouble no matter how good the safety group is which, by the way, looks to be rock solid. Veach would have been smart, in my opinion, to stock a couple of vet CBs on the PS. He doesn't even have one.

This isn't even talking about the defensive line, which has obvious concerns. The first issue lies with the vets. Dunlap was signed to take pressure off of Karlaftis as a rookie and help hedge some of the problems with performance with Frank Clark, but he already has a tweaked Achilles which usually leads to a tear at some point during the season. I'm worried there. Frank Clark dropped weight but now he looks too light. We'll see, but I'll never attach much hope to Frank Clark.

Then, you have the youth. Karlaftis is a rookie and, like McDuffie and the secondary, is going to learn on the fly how long and difficult an NFL season is and especially if/when they get to the playoff stretch. I like the strides Mike Danna has taken but he just doesn't look yet like a guy that will be an impact player. He looks like a solid 1st and 2nd down end but he doesn't look like he's going to get you a ton of pressure on the QB. He may have reached the point of at least Alex Okafor if that's saying much. We don't know what Mike Herring is, but he didn't look like much of a pass rusher either. I thought Josh Kaindoh should have been cut, so I guess we'll see where that ends up.

Overall, we're dealing with a lack of pass rushers. The Chiefs don't really have a rotational pinch hitter to get after the QB. My opinion is that Veach would be smart to swing a late rounder for a flash-in-the-pan that can at least get some pressure situationally. Maybe that guy isn't out there for the taking though.

We really could be looking at the 2018 Chiefs but the schedule is tougher. The Chiefs have to take some out-of-division games against good opponents and they can't give up the gimmes because they will, undoubtedly, lose a couple of division tilts.

Overall, I don't think playoffs are out of the realm of possibility or even likelihood, but I don't expect 13-14 wins and I don't expect this team to go far. I'm leaning towards 10-7 with 11-6 as a maybe. Anything more than that might be a bit overzealous. As for advancing through the gauntlet in the playoffs, that may be too tall a task for the defense.

ROFL

So a team that has gone to the last 4 AFC Championship games, has a faster / younger defense, the Best coach in the NFL and the Best QB / TE combo--is going to be fighting for a playoff spot??

Laughable.

Bearcat 09-04-2022 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16444326)
It was actually a clipboard, but I’ll let your hate for diligence stand.

Have you ever gone back to check notes on how right or wrong you were on certain players, season outcomes, etc?

Kiimo 09-04-2022 07:39 PM

Imagine sitting around listening to podcasts all day so you can find one that says we won't be good.

What's the use of that kind of fandom if you aren't optimistic about a team that has been to the AFC championship four years in a row coached by Reid and helmed by Mahomes?

Because you anticipate injuries???? Seriously? That's some world class pessimism, GTFO with that nonsense.


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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16444296)
Overall, I don't think playoffs are out of the realm of possibility or even likelihood, but I don't expect 13-14 wins and I don't expect this team to go far. I'm leaning towards 10-7 with 11-6 as a maybe. Anything more than that might be a bit overzealous. As for advancing through the gauntlet in the playoffs, that may be too tall a task for the defense.


Nobody wants to read this shit. Go cry into your wet blanket alone in the basement.

FAX 09-04-2022 07:44 PM

IMHO, the success (or lack thereof) of the season rests on the first 6 games.

If we make it through that with a winning record, I think we'll be okay.

So let's make sure that we handle the Game Day Thread-Things appropriately.

FAX


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