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Best22 04-29-2022 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DTVietnam (Post 16270413)
so now the Chiefs are being reactionary?

I liked it better when we controlled the narrative and teams were trying to catch us. .

CB was always a need for KC. We lost Hughes and Ward and didn’t replace them in FA

Unless you wanted to go into the season with just Sneed and Fenton while hoping Baker or Bootle play above their heads.

Much rather use a premium pick on a CB (the first time ever in the Veach era). Tired of relying on 4th rounders to fill out the CB position

BlackOp 04-29-2022 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16270196)
Was McDuffie worth giving up a 3rd round pick though?

Not sold on it.

Think about it from a different angle....

Ward was a "good" corner....he just got $14 mill per. Veach mentioned talented guys with a profile like their first 2 picks likely pan out because of of their work ethic.

If they both turn out to be just good...they likely saved the Chiefs $30-$40 million a year for the next 5 seasons.. Just having someone to get Clark off the books is a nice move. Not being on the hook for $28-$30 mill for Hill...Chiefs are set to be players in FA again. If a WR isnt there at 50...it's not as dire as it once was. They can go BPA and continue to shave off salary to be used elsewhere...

They still have 3 picks in what BV referred to as the "sweet spot" in this draft.....they could double down on CB/DE or take a safety. I would take the more expensive positions if they have the players rated equal...


Chiefs just scored two important positions...and their OL is relatively cheap for 3 more years. This is the model for sustained success in the NFL..

Chris Meck 04-29-2022 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DTVietnam (Post 16270413)
so now the Chiefs are being reactionary?

I liked it better when we controlled the narrative and teams were trying to catch us. .

You hate everything. You are insufferable. Worst poster on the forum.

Chris Meck 04-29-2022 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16270257)
I still want a veteran edge like Ingram on the cheap. Our d will look pretty nice

I still want another edge in round 2.

I'll take a Myjai Sanders, Drake Jackson, or Cam Thomas thank you very much.


Pair that with a Pickens, Watson, Pierce, or Metchie at WR and I'm thrilled.

DTVietnam 04-29-2022 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 16270435)
Think about it from a different angle....

Ward was a "good" corner....he just got $14 mill per. Veach mentioned talented guys with a profile like their first 2 picks likely pan out because of of their work ethic.

If they both turn out to be just good...they likely saved the Chiefs $30-$40 million a year for the next 5 seasons.. Just having someone to get Clark off the books is a nice move. Not being on the hook for $28-$30 mill for Hill...Chiefs are set to be players in FA again. If a WR isnt there at 50...it's not as dire as it once was. They can go BPA and continue to shave off salary to be used elsewhere...

They still have 3 picks in what BV referred to as the "sweet spot" in this draft.....they could double down on CB/DE or take a safety. I would take the more expensive positions if they have the players rated equal...


Chiefs just scored two important positions...and their OL is relatively cheap for 3 more years. This is the model for sustained success in the NFL..


so draft players..and trade them in their prime when they want to get paid.. and repeat?

this plus getting big name veterans is a model for success in the NFL..

last 3 superbowl winners including the Chiefs won because of huge veteran signings not meaningless end of round 1 picks..

Woogieman 04-29-2022 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16270203)
We could use another safety that can range.

Looks like Sneed and McDuffie will be moved around depending on matchups.

Probably more Sneed outside while McDuffie plays a lot of slot when more corners on field.

JT Woods may be that man in the 4th...Hill was my draft crush in the 1st, then thought maybe Pitre or Brisker in the 2nd, but wouldn't be surprised if BV pulls the trigger in the 4th w/ a "centerfielder" in the 4th to replace Thornhill and keep Reid in the box.

Best22 04-29-2022 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DTVietnam (Post 16270496)
so draft players..and trade them in their prime when they want to get paid.. and repeat?

this plus getting big name veterans is a model for success in the NFL..

last 3 superbowl winners including the Chiefs won because of huge veteran signings not meaningless end of round 1 picks..

This is setting us up for 2023 and the future

2022 will be a nice year but 2023 will give us an even better chance at winning the SB

treeguy27 04-29-2022 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16270197)
I know this is unpopular on CP, but 50-50 HB comes back.

I don't think Spags and Veach want HB's attitude in the secondary room influencing these young guys. When he first came to town he had the perfect attitude to turn our defense around. His mentality has changed dramatically since then. Last season his attitude was crap and his lack of desire to tackle was blatant. I can't imagine he would be any better if no one else wanted him and he had to come back and take less money than he thinks he's worth.

DTVietnam 04-29-2022 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 16270510)
This is setting us up for 2023 and the future

2022 will be a nice year but 2023 will give us an even better chance at winning the SB

but i dont think u do that..i mean apart from Mahomes having a seizure at halftime of the Bengals game this is a team 3 years in a row making the Superbowl..(we do0nt speak of dee ford)
so now you pump the breaks and start a mini rebuild rebuild with unproven guys and guys who have struggled on other teams (MVS, juju, Reid) ..

I think you need the win now mentality with Travis at the end of his career . .and Mahomes moving backwards ..

Sadly we will turn into Green Bay and the Chiefs will continue to sell tickets because of Mahomes..and they will hang their hat on 2019. .

that 2019 Superbowl was won more because of Frank Clartk and Honey Badger then it was because of Mahomes. . I think 2020 and 2021 showed us that mahomes doesnt dictate this teams direction...nort taking anbything away from PAtrick..hes amazing and I wouldnt want another QB on the team buit hes not as clutch as we hoped

Chris Meck 04-29-2022 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DTVietnam (Post 16270496)
so draft players..and trade them in their prime when they want to get paid.. and repeat?

this plus getting big name veterans is a model for success in the NFL..

last 3 superbowl winners including the Chiefs won because of huge veteran signings not meaningless end of round 1 picks..

:LOL:

Chris Meck 04-29-2022 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DTVietnam (Post 16270518)
but i dont think u do that..i mean apart from Mahomes having a seizure at halftime of the Bengals game this is a team 3 years in a row making the Superbowl..(we do0nt speak of dee ford)
so now you pump the breaks and start a mini rebuild rebuild with unproven guys and guys who have struggled on other teams (MVS, juju, Reid) ..

I think you need the win now mentality with Travis at the end of his career . .and Mahomes moving backwards ..

Sadly we will turn into Green Bay and the Chiefs will continue to sell tickets because of Mahomes..and they will hang their hat on 2019. .

that 2019 Superbowl was won more because of Frank Clartk and Honey Badger then it was because of Mahomes. . I think 2020 and 2021 showed us that mahomes doesnt dictate this teams direction...nort taking anbything away from PAtrick..hes amazing and I wouldnt want another QB on the team buit hes not as clutch as we hoped

You should probably sit on a shotgun.

scho63 04-29-2022 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16270197)
I know this is unpopular on CP, but 50-50 HB comes back.

At this point, we may be his only option and his value has plummeted.

If we get him for $2-3mil a year, why not :hmmm:

chiefzilla1501 04-29-2022 07:00 AM

Veach does a lot of damage with scrap picks at cb. He's gotten ward, Fenton, Sneed, breeland for peanuts. A lot of that has to do with spags being particularly great with DBs. So we're not even close to finished. We've got a great nucleus to start with

O.city 04-29-2022 07:01 AM

I wonder if they still do anything with Bradberry.

That would be a nice secondary if you could draft a S and trade for him.

Rainbarrel 04-29-2022 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DTVietnam (Post 16270518)
but i dont think u do that..i mean apart from Mahomes having a seizure at halftime of the Bengals game this is a team 3 years in a row making the Superbowl..(we do0nt speak of dee ford)
so now you pump the breaks and start a mini rebuild rebuild with unproven guys and guys who have struggled on other teams (MVS, juju, Reid) ..

I think you need the win now mentality with Travis at the end of his career . .and Mahomes moving backwards ..

Sadly we will turn into Green Bay and the Chiefs will continue to sell tickets because of Mahomes..and they will hang their hat on 2019. .

that 2019 Superbowl was won more because of Frank Clartk and Honey Badger then it was because of Mahomes. . I think 2020 and 2021 showed us that mahomes doesnt dictate this teams direction...nort taking anbything away from PAtrick..hes amazing and I wouldnt want another QB on the team buit hes not as clutch as we hoped

Mahomes looks across the field and thinks, I DO NOT want to become that(Russ Wilson twice a year).


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