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Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-21-2014 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 10445435)
A&M Fan Rudy???

Of course! I am a homer sometimes. But I was down on Johnny like everyone else in the beginning of the 2012 season. Then the more you watch, the more you believe

FTR, I have big questions about Evans and Matthews.

OldSchool 02-21-2014 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10445451)
Of course! I am a homer sometimes. But I was down on Johnny like everyone else in the beginning of the 2012 season. But he makes you a believer.

FTR, I have big questions about Evans and Matthews.

I think that Evans will be fine if he plays with the right QB. He's going to need someone who will trust him to come up with the contested ball. At worst, I think he is the next Alshon Jeffery with even more size.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-21-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10445454)
I think that Evans will be fine if he plays with the right QB. He's going to need someone who will trust him to come up with the contested ball. At worst, I think he is the next Alshon Jeffery with even more size.

Holy shit. If Jeffery is his worst, sign me up. I will say that he does have elite ball skills. Unfortuntately, I think his straight line speed is deceiving (i expect a 4.5-4.6). He really struggles to separate. Of course, he is still learning and hasn't played a ton of football in his life. I think he does have a nice ceiling, but he makes me nervous. I'm a Watkins/Beckham guy.

Halfcan 02-21-2014 04:20 PM

If he truly wanted to be the #1 pick he would compete and throw with all the other QB's. This is a huge red flag. Probably figures it would drop him out of the first round??

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-21-2014 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 10445478)
If he truly wanted to be the #1 pick he would compete and throw with all the other QB's. This is a huge red flag. Probably figures it would drop him out of the first round??

Yeah like Andrew Luck and RGIII

He isn't gonna decline workouts with individual teams. And he's gonna throw late in March with Evans and whoever else.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-21-2014 04:28 PM

Bortles is the one making a mistake by throwing. He can't.

OldSchool 02-21-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10445465)
Holy shit. If Jeffery is his worst, sign me up. I will say that he does have elite ball skills. Unfortuntately, I think his straight line speed is deceiving (i expect a 4.5-4.6). He really struggles to separate. Of course, he is still learning and hasn't played a ton of football in his life. I think he does have a nice ceiling, but he makes me nervous. I'm a Watkins/Beckham guy.

People had the same knocks on Jeffery coming out of college.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-21-2014 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10445496)
People had the same knocks on Jeffery coming out of college.

Definitely. Sometimes it works out. I wouldn't be pissed if the Chiefs took him. I'm familiar with him, and I like him. Just skeptical.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-21-2014 06:12 PM

Manziels gonna be fun to watch however he turns out !

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-21-2014 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 10445478)
If he truly wanted to be the #1 pick he would compete and throw with all the other QB's. This is a huge red flag. Probably figures it would drop him out of the first round??

He will be showcasing his arm at his pro day, your statement has no merit.

Sandy Vagina 02-21-2014 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10403105)
Yep. I'd rather us take the top rated between receiver, safety or pass rusher at 23. Or, use Manziel as trade bait for someone 10-15 spots under us and trade down and recoup our second rounder this year plus some.

THIS... Manziel looks like he has huge bust potential. Would love to see the CHiefs trade back a short ways and add a quality pick.

OldSchool 02-21-2014 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 10445880)
THIS... Manziel looks like he has huge bust potential. Would love to see the CHiefs trade back a short ways and add a quality pick.

Yup, if either Carr or Manziel are there, I hope a team comes calling.

KC native 02-21-2014 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10445414)
There's no off-field risk.

Statements like this are why people think aggie fans are dumb.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-21-2014 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 10445920)
Statements like this are why people think aggie fans are dumb.

Well, Aggies and Aggie fans are dumb. See: TexAgs.com

I should have said there is more on-field risk than off. Obviously, I don't know him personally.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-21-2014 07:47 PM

No.

We have Bray.


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