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carlos3652 10-16-2009 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6176836)
Yeah. Better than bad does not equal good [/htismaque]

I would be excited about Roth. But I don't think you're going to get a talent like Bowe in round 2. Even then, there is an even lower probability that he will be able to produce as quickly as Bowe did. So you want to get a guy that hits his stride in 2011 or 2012? Meanwhile for two ****ing years opposing defenses have to double team BOBBY ****ING WADE? Or what? We going to dump a Top 10 pick on Bouldin? Are we gonna get a 30 something washed up guy?

IF AND ONLY IF they turn both of those picks into starters and Roth stays healthy and productive would it be close to paying off. The probability of these the above situation coming to fruition is very small.
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I agree with your take as well, i dont think Roth is horrible though, i think he would be a starting LB in most Defenses...

Buehler445 10-16-2009 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by carlos3652 (Post 6176840)
I agree with your take as well, i dont think Roth is horrible though, i think he would be a starting LB in most Defenses...
That's fair. I don't know anything about him. Unless he's a worldbeater (in which I probably would have heard of him), I still don't take the deal.
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salame 10-16-2009 11:54 AM
http://marcmwm.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/roth3.jpg

Hi I would like to be your new Jared Allen

carlos3652 10-16-2009 11:55 AM
http://www.mattroth98.com/
http://iplextra.indiatimes.com/artic...rancisco+49ers

carlos3652 10-16-2009 01:30 PM
So any news on this? - Anything on fin heaven, i cant get on...

wild1 10-16-2009 01:39 PM
It's BS. It was just wikipedia vandalism.

KCChiefsMan 10-16-2009 01:44 PM
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DaWolf 10-16-2009 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by carlos3652 (Post 6177044)
So any news on this? - Anything on fin heaven, i cant get on...
Nothing to see. The folks at Finhaven also point out that Roth can't officially be traded until he is activated, which can't happen until after week 6...

JD10367 10-16-2009 02:56 PM
It's probably Pioli hacking Wiki, trying to get the Ravens to sweeten the pot. :)

SDChiefs 10-16-2009 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6176763)
Can someone edit the page to make the trade for Miami's first rounders over the next 5 years, plus Ronnie Brown? :)
I tried. Its locked.

TRR 10-16-2009 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by carlos3652 (Post 6176801)
I dont think i would be Super upset if this went down... you are getting Roth, who i think would be the best Linebacker on this team... a 2nd and a 5th,

that would put us at a high 1st, 3 2nd rounders a 3rd, a 4th and 3 5ths... that would essentially get us a Playmaking S, a LB who would start, and 3 other players on the first day... and who knows with the 5ths we could use to make our second another first...

It would suck to lose Bowe.... but im not sure this would be completely stupid...

(edit: i know we already have the dolphns 5th, but just saying, if this went to baltimore...)
The problem is you H A V E to hit on those picks...and that's a 50/50 shot at best to even make the trade even.

This reasoning above is exactly how people spun the Jared Allen trade. Look where that got us.
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KCDC 10-16-2009 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 6177258)
The problem is you H A V E to hit on those picks...and that's a 50/50 shot at best to even make the trade even.

This reasoning above is exactly how people spun the Jared Allen trade. Look where that got us.
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Yep, Pollard was a second rounder.

DaWolf 10-16-2009 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by KCDC (Post 6177267)
Yep, Pollard was a second rounder.
Carl very rarely hit on any second rounders.

I agree, having a boatload of picks can either be the path to building a championship team, or if you have poor talent evaluators, the path towards what we are seeing with the Chiefs today. Take the Raiders, they should have been able to build on what was already a Super Bowl team with the draft picks they got back for Jon Gruden. Instead, they pissed their picks away and fell into obscurity.

But if you hit on your picks, think Dallas Cowboys or San Francisco 49ers of the 80's and 90's...

TRR 10-16-2009 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by carlos3652 (Post 6176801)
I dont think i would be Super upset if this went down... you are getting Roth, who i think would be the best Linebacker on this team... a 2nd and a 5th,

that would put us at a high 1st, 3 2nd rounders a 3rd, a 4th and 3 5ths... that would essentially get us a Playmaking S, a LB who would start, and 3 other players on the first day... and who knows with the 5ths we could use to make our second another first...

It would suck to lose Bowe.... but im not sure this would be completely stupid...

(edit: i know we already have the dolphns 5th, but just saying, if this went to baltimore...)
The problem is you H A V E to hit on those picks...and that's a 50/50 shot at best to even make the trade even.

This reasoning above is exactly how people spun the Jared Allen trade. Look where that got us.
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salame 10-17-2009 01:27 AM
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http://marcmwm.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/roth3.jpg

Hi I would like to be your new Jared Allen
come on this was gold


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