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DeezNutz 01-16-2009 01:58 PM

Does this dude ever sleep?

OnTheWarpath15 01-16-2009 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5396922)
Does this dude ever sleep?

Pioli?

Doesn't seem like it.

80-100 hour work weeks seem to be the norm.

DeezNutz 01-16-2009 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5396926)
Pioli?

Doesn't seem like it.

80-100 hour work weeks seem to be the norm.

Yeah.

This sets the bar high for everyone in the organization. I like it.

Hootie 01-16-2009 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5396922)
Does this dude ever sleep?

I hope not.

Zouk 01-16-2009 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5395924)
It has been documented that Herm doesn't watch much game tape.

Where?

The perception does not match reality at all.

DeezNutz 01-16-2009 02:12 PM

I wonder how long Carl was typically in the office, especially during the last 5 years or so?

Nightfyre 01-16-2009 02:55 PM

What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall in the Chief's war room during draft day...
















and then morph back into human form and yell, "GENTLEMEN, YOU CAN'T FIGHT HERE! THIS IS THE WAR ROOM!"

OnTheWarpath15 01-16-2009 04:07 PM

Regarding Pioli, and one of the rare times he didn't trust his instincts:


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In the Jabari Holloway case (who Pioli pushed for) Pioli says he should have trusted his instincts. The TE from Notre Dame made him nervous as soon as he realized why he had been late for practice.

Chemistry class.

"By your Senior year, football had better be a priority if you're going to be a NFl player," he says. "And i don't care about chemistry labs. You know what? You can come back and get your grades. To me that explained that something larger was going on. That there weer other things in life clearly more important than football. He could have done it some other way where it didn't interfere with football. That bothered me.

Ebolapox 01-16-2009 05:47 PM

sounds to me like he'll be one of those guys who works harder than the other guy. that gets results most of the time, IMO.

Buehler445 01-16-2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk (Post 5396966)
Where?

The perception does not match reality at all.

There was an article that quoted a scout that said he wasn't patient enough to sit and watch film. I'd dig it up, but it is most certainly not worth arguing about.

OnTheWarpath15 01-16-2009 08:10 PM

This is one of my favorite excerpts, speaking about Pioli and the scouting department:

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Pioli's opinions are so clear and blunt that there's little if any room for misunderstandings. In fact, it's written in the manual that all scouts must have a clear opinion. Neutrality or passive-aggressiveness can get you fired. You actually get credit when you logically disagree with the boss.

"I want them to know their opinion is important," says Pioli. "As a matter of fact, it's so important that part of the evaluation of you is going to be whether or not you have one."

Former Patriots scout Jason Licht:

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If I said a guy is a 1st round pick, the Colts picked him, and he turned out to be a bust, they wouldn't have looked down on me. They wouldn't have said I'm a bad grader. Because that player in the Patriots system might have been successful."

Ebolapox 01-16-2009 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5398313)
This is one of my favorite excerpts, speaking about Pioli and the scouting department:




Former Patriots scout Jason Licht:

that's the way it should be. there's no room, in a successful organization, for bullshit. and we've been swimming in it for twenty years.

OnTheWarpath15 01-16-2009 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 5398322)
that's the way it should be. there's no room, in a successful organization, for bullshit. and we've been swimming in it for twenty years.

Damn right.

Fish 01-16-2009 11:19 PM

Great compilation OTW.... very informative. And the thread isn't even watered down with BS rumors... Nice break from the girl's locker room mentality around here lately.

I have to say though, the more I learn about Pioli, the more I'm convinced that Herm isn't smart enough to keep up with him. It's pretty clear that Pioli is incredibly professional and very meticulous. And I can't see him finding those qualities in much of the current coaching staff.

OnTheWarpath15 01-16-2009 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 5398714)
Great compilation OTW.... very informative. And the thread isn't even watered down with BS rumors... Nice break from the girl's locker room mentality around here lately.

I have to say though, the more I learn about Pioli, the more I'm convinced that Herm isn't smart enough to keep up with him. It's pretty clear that Pioli is incredibly professional and very meticulous. And I can't see him finding those qualities in much of the current coaching staff.


Agree, 100%

Speaking of Herm, here's the coup de grāce as far as I'm concerned. Herm can't come close to this:

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The team was smartly built, with one eye on the cap and the other on the field. They were good at figuring out how much better one player was than another, and seeing if the price matched the production. Jonathan Kraft is amazed at their ability to do that.

"Let's say there's a player who has a 100 rating, with really no upside beyond that. He's a solid 100, he'll be here a few years, he's making $4M. They can see another player who's a 75, making $500K, and has upside. They know they can put that kid in a system where the deficiencies between a 75 and 100 can be protected."

"They're never going to get into salary cap hell chasing that last elusive guy, or believing that one person makes your team. They are completely focused on team."


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