attitude doesn't matter UNLESS that attitude effects his play on the field .... which it does for Moss.

when your attitude makes you "play when you want, not play when you want" if effects your WR rating imo

Yeah, gonzo definitely does help. The lack of a running game has to hurt, too, although they were markedly better this year than last. He and Gonzo are the only real offensive threats, although I like the looks of Charles.

I wonder how much of an issue that's been with Moss since arriving in New England.

Just imagine a guy with his talent and Jerry Rice's work ethic...

Nothing angry about it.

He's the best, and you're calling me angry for agreeing with you...

It's really not even close, IMO.

Not close? Calvin Johnson is incredible on a horrendous team, with no stable QB. The guy is 6'5 230+ and only in his second year. How he didn't get in to the Pro Bowl is beyond me. I'd say give me Calvin Johnson with Fitzgerald a close second.

I almost posted this exact thread earlier.


Yes hands down Fitz is the best in todays NFL.

It's not really an either/or question. Randy Moss makes it more complex than that. If you put Randy Moss with a very good to great QB, he's the best WR in the league bar none. No one changes a game from the outside like Randy Moss. He makes it easier for everyone on offense.

If you don't have a great QB though, I would take Fitzgerald. And Owens doesn't belong anywhere near this discussion anymore. He has lost several steps.

1. Larry Fitzgerald
2. Randy Moss
3. Andre Johnson
4. Steve Smith
5. Calvin Johnson

Definitely.

I'd like to see what Braylon could do with a talented QB. Even with DA behind center, more than a few times I was like "wow". I guess you'd call him a poor mans Larry.

Braylon has the talent, I'm not sure he has the head.

He seems to lack focus in catching the ball, and lacks discipline in his route running.

If he ever decided to bear down and work as hard as the other top guys, he'd be a top guy, IMO.

He has potential, I guess that's what I was gettin' at.

There was a fascinating interview on KFAN 1440 AM in Minneapolis.

Michelle Tafoya was interviewing Chris Carter, and Chris talked about how he has worked with Fitzgerald and sort of taken him under his wing.

Once I heard that, I could absolutely see it in his game, body control, yes. But mostly the way fitzgerald never ****ing ever drops a catchable ball, his mental focus is second to none.

THAT is why he's the best, even over the physical freaks that are more impressive like TO, CalJohn and Boldin.

TO isnt even close to the caliber of player as Fitz, 'Dre, and Moss.

To answer the question though, yes I think Fitz is the best WR, followed closely by Andre Johnson. I cant even put Moss up there with them two because of his work ethic.

The thing that's amazing about Fitzgerald is that he's been making plays while in well-played double coverage. When you have a guy who consistently draws double coverage, that puts the rest of your offense in a 10 on 9 situation. When you have a guy who can still make plays against the two guys covering him, that changes the equation even more.

I'm not sure if he's better than a motivated Randy Moss, but Randy Moss isn't motivated 16 games a year. For the sake of the game, it's a shame that Moss doesn't have a good work ethic.

See I was thinking.. What he would do if he would not drop so many ****ing easy balls or onside kicks..