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xbarretx 09-16-2008 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 5025662)
The key is making the car affordable to EVERYBODY, not selling it for $40,000 or some such shit. If I can afford a $40,000 car, chances are I don't care how much gas costs, and so why would I buy it?
QFT

xbarretx 09-16-2008 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 5025799)
I have a 2006 Impala. It's about as exciting as a glass of milk, but it's a good car.
a WARM glass at least?

Frazod 09-16-2008 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by xbarretx (Post 5025880)
a WARM glass at least?
Not really, no.

When I bought this, the choice was down to the silver Impala or a blue Pontiac G6 GT, which I really liked. It was sportier, faster and had more features. But it was more expensive, and I was able to get a better interest rate on the Impala due to some promotion that was running at the time. So I did the smart thing and got the Impala, but every time I see a blue G6 it pisses me off, because that's the one I really wanted. Had I gone that route, my payment would be $40 more a month, but I'd be much happier. Oh well.

Chazno 09-16-2008 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 5025718)
Why can't they use a battery that has better performance? The Tesla gets 220 miles per charge and it, too, uses Lithium Ion. They have a proprietary battery design but good grief GM, if you can't figure it out, buy the rights. 40 miles per charge is not acceptable to most people.
The Tesla also costs $109k. What happens if you need to take the Tesla on a 250 mile trip...you'll have to stop and recharge. I'm guessing the batteries are similar or possibly the same, GM is just bringing it to the masses in a more cost effective and practical manner.

Valiant 09-16-2008 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5025527)
Pic:
If they leave it looking like that I will be amazed..

Usually they **** up the style once it is in production..

Stewie 09-16-2008 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Chazno (Post 5025939)
The Tesla also costs $109k. What happens if you need to take the Tesla on a 250 mile trip...you'll have to stop and recharge. I'm guessing the batteries are similar or possibly the same, GM is just bringing it to the masses in a more cost effective and practical manner.
The Tesla is a niche car with small production runs, hence the price. I'm talking about their battery technology. Electric cars are not for cross country runs and probably won't be in my lifetime, but driving more than 40 miles in a day isn't uncommon for most people. The 220 miles the Tesla battery offers makes a huge difference in day to day use.

Donger 09-16-2008 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 5025629)
I love current news
Watt?

Simply Red 09-16-2008 04:10 PM
Too bad I'm buying the new A-5,

Donger 09-16-2008 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5025725)
I wonder how long it would take to charge 40 miles? Might take two days to get from here to KC.
The only thing connected to the drive wheels is the electric motor. But, it has a little gasoline engine that can also charge the batteries, so range is not 40 miles and dead.

It takes 10 hours to charge at standard household voltage and current, apparently.

Valiant 09-16-2008 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5025975)
The only thing connected to the drive wheels is the electric motor. But, it has a little gasoline engine that can also charge the batteries, so range is not 40 miles and dead.

It takes 10 hours to charge at standard household voltage and current, apparently.
What happens if you cut short the charge??

jiveturkey 09-16-2008 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 5025965)
The Tesla is a niche car with small production runs, hence the price. I'm talking about their battery technology. Electric cars are not for cross country runs and probably won't be in my lifetime, but driving more than 40 miles in a day isn't uncommon for most people. The 220 miles the Tesla battery offers makes a huge difference in day to day use.
I think that 40 miles or below per day is where a majority of people fall. I remember seeing a stat when this car was first being discussed that 70% or so fall into this category.

Donger 09-16-2008 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 5025979)
What happens if you cut short the charge??
The gasoline motor apparently kicks in to charge at around 30% battery remaining.

The Franchise 09-16-2008 04:25 PM
So I can pay $30-$40k for a car that will get me back and forth to work once in a day....and I have to charge it for 10 hours?

No thanks.

Saulbadguy 09-16-2008 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5025967)
Watt?
:clap:

007 09-16-2008 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5025553)
$35,000 - $40,000? That's not really that bad, but the ROI is pretty poor. Still, it'll be nice to have the option.
Out of my price range. I love how they do that.


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