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MOhillbilly 09-17-2007 11:45 AM

i dont think its as bad as KC is being made out to be in the media. yes the team has some speed needs and yeah the o-line is patch work. But i see alot of talnet on the field,atleast a hell of alot more balanced than in years past.

Valiant 09-17-2007 11:55 AM

Seriously would you all be happy for us to win the last 5 games of the year just so we sniff 7-9 or 8-8 football??? And still be out of the playoffs.. Build the team for next year, this year imo is washed..

The team was set up to fail since the start of camp with McIntosh getting hurt and LJ holding out.. It hurt the offense immensely.. That and Herm deciding that the offense should not practice any of their plays during the preseason..

All of the little mistakes that we are making on offense should have been solved in the preseason..

MOhillbilly 09-17-2007 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Valiant
Seriously would you all be happy for us to win the last 5 games of the year just so we sniff 7-9 or 8-8 football??? And still be out of the playoffs.. Build the team for next year, this year imo is washed..

The team was set up to fail since the start of camp with McIntosh getting hurt and LJ holding out.. It hurt the offense immensely.. That and Herm deciding that the offense should not practice any of their plays during the preseason..

All of the little mistakes that we are making on offense should have been solved in the preseason..

McIntosh isnt that great anyway. but i agree player personel and position responsibilities fall on position coaches.

cookster50 09-17-2007 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk
Please - early year 2 of a rebuilding program. You would have fired Belichick in Cleveland and Dungy in Tampa. Some people never learn. We'll have Brodie within a month - possibly even this weekend.

Whatever you say Herm.

cookster50 09-17-2007 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by damark
Whatever you say Herm.

Wait, maybe you're Herm's wife....

splatbass 09-17-2007 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MGRS13
How can we even call this rebuilding when we bench(pollard)cut(medlock)replace(phinisee)or just plain don't let the young player play (Croyle).

1. Pollard was taken out for a time, but was back out there a lot the rest of the game. How is that benched?

2. Medlock was replaced by a 24 year old that is kicking very well. How is that not rebuilding? They found a young guy that can do the job, isn't that part of rebuilding?

3. Phinisee never looked that good. Are you required to go with young guys even if they have no talent just because you are rebuilding?

4. Croyle will play, probably sooner rather than later.

melbar 09-17-2007 12:29 PM

We ran shifts on almost every play under DV. Less penalties than we have now.

Reaper16 09-17-2007 12:31 PM

Putting aside the penalty, that play with "all the shifts and motions," etc. resulted in a friggin' TD!
Herm always likes to say that the Vermiel offense didn't help out the defense because they'd score too fast. Well, the Herm offense is the same way, except that they don't-score too fast.

Dylan 09-17-2007 12:38 PM

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Pennington only played 16 games once.
In 2006*

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Herm had them peaking at the end of the year each time, and they were always a difficult out in December and January.
I missed those parts of the games... lol

Herm will never throw himself under the bus during the season. He likes his job too much.

melbar 09-17-2007 12:39 PM

Three and out doesnt exactly help the D rest either

Rausch 09-17-2007 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar
Three and out doesnt exactly help the D rest either

Funny how great defenses like the Bears, Ravens, and Raiders can play just fine with almost no help from the offense. You are or you aren't a good defense...

MGRS13 09-17-2007 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass
1. Pollard was taken out for a time, but was back out there a lot the rest of the game. How is that benched?

2. Medlock was replaced by a 24 year old that is kicking very well. How is that not rebuilding? They found a young guy that can do the job, isn't that part of rebuilding?

3. Phinisee never looked that good. Are you required to go with young guys even if they have no talent just because you are rebuilding?

4. Croyle will play, probably sooner rather than later.

Putting Pollard on the bench for letting a Tackle score a TD is dumb that play works on the best of em. Medlock has made as many FG this year as Rayner. Phinisee looked 100 times better in preseason the Drummond has looked period. Croyle should be playing now hell he should have been playing two weeks ago.

splatbass 09-17-2007 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MGRS13
Putting Pollard on the bench for letting a Tackle score a TD is dumb that play works on the best of em. Medlock has made as many FG this year as Rayner. Phinisee looked 100 times better in preseason the Drummond has looked period. Croyle should be playing now hell he should have been playing two weeks ago.


1. No one even knows that Pollard was on the bench because of that. That is pure speculation from another thread. Maybe he was just tired and needed a rest. He played most of the rest of the game. There is no evidence he was benched. You guys are looking for anything to bitch about, and are willing to make stuff up to do it. Pathetic.

2. Rayner made one great kick, and the other was blocked. He hasn't missed one yet. The first kick was right down the middle. Medlock has never made a kick that looked that good since he was drafted.

3. Phinisee was a Hard Knocks creation. He was not that good in camp, but because he got a lot of air time people think he was great. Just like Sippio.

4. I would rather have had Croyle start, but I think most NFL coaches would have gone with Huard under the circumstances. I think Croyle's time is coming soon.

You guys are so intent on bashing everything Herm does that you don't even care about facts.

bobbything 09-17-2007 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16
Putting aside the penalty, that play with "all the shifts and motions," etc. resulted in a friggin' TD!
Herm always likes to say that the Vermiel offense didn't help out the defense because they'd score too fast.

This is possibly the biggest misconception about that offense. It had the ability to score quickly, but in reality they were in the top 5 in TOP every single year.

If Herm really did say this, then he didn't know anything about the Chiefs offense during that era.

MGRS13 09-17-2007 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass
1. No one even knows that Pollard was on the bench because if that. That is pure speculation from another thread. Maybe he was just tired and needed a rest. He played most of the rest of the game. There is no evidence he was benched. You guys are looking for anything to bitch about, and are willing to make stuff up to do it. Pathetic.

2. Rayner made one great kick, and the other was blocked. He hasn't missed one yet. The first kick was right down the middle. Medlock has never made a kick that looked that good since he was drafted.

3. Phinisee was a Hard Knocks creation. He was not that good in camp, but because he got a lot of air time people think he was great. Just like Sippio.

4. I would rather have had Croyle start, but I think most NFL coaches would have gone with Huard under the circumstances. I think Croyle's time is coming soon.

You guys are so intent on bashing everything Herm does that you don't even care about facts.

hows this for facts 0-2. And the game plan for every team we play this year is exactly the same. Hes a shitty coach just deal with it.


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